Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Chris Behrens
On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > I want to give the knobs to the users. If we thought it was important > enough to review and test in Nova, then we made a judgement call that > people should have access to it. Oh, I see. But, I don’t agree, certainly not for every single knob

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/04/2014 02:03 PM, Chris Behrens wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Sean Dague > wrote: > >> On 03/04/2014 01:14 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: >>> […] >>> I don’t think I have an answer, but I’m going to throw out some of my >>> random thoughts about extensions in gene

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Chris Behrens
On Mar 4, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 03/04/2014 01:14 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: >> […] >> I don’t think I have an answer, but I’m going to throw out some of my random >> thoughts about extensions in general. They might influence a longer term >> decision. But I’m also curious if I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/04/2014 01:14 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> here's a case worth exploring in a v2 only world ... what about some >> extension we really think is dead and should go away? can we ever >> remove it? In the past we have said back

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:14:02 -0800 Chris Behrens wrote: > I don’t think I have an answer, but I’m going to throw out some of my > random thoughts about extensions in general. They might influence a > longer term decision. But I’m also curious if I’m the only one that > feels this way: > > I tend t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Morgan Fainberg
I think I missed the emphasis on the efforts towards superseding and/or making the call obsolete in my previous email (I was aiming to communicate far more than a the few lines managed to convey). I honestly think that if we are sticking with V2 because of the fact that Nova is such a large surf

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-04 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:31:23 -0800 Morgan Fainberg wrote: > > I think that in a V2 only world a 2 cycle deprecation model would be > sufficient for any extension. I don’t foresee any complaints on that > front, especially if there is work to supersede or obsolete the need > for the extension. Giv

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-03 Thread Chris Behrens
On Mar 3, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi All, > > here's a case worth exploring in a v2 only world ... what about some > extension we really think is dead and should go away? can we ever > remove it? In the past we have said backwards compatibility means no > we cannot remove any ext

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-03 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Hi Joe, I think that in a V2 only world a 2 cycle deprecation model would be sufficient for any extension. I don’t foresee any complaints on that front, especially if there is work to supersede or obsolete the need for the extension. Cheers, Morgan  — Morgan Fainberg Principal Software Engineer

[openstack-dev] [nova] Thought exercise for a V2 only world

2014-03-03 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, here's a case worth exploring in a v2 only world ... what about some extension we really think is dead and should go away? can we ever remove it? In the past we have said backwards compatibility means no we cannot remove any extensions, if we adopt the v2 only notion of backwards compatib