New version of the spec:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138115/
Problem description updated.
Power interface part removed (not in scope of deploy driver).
On 12/09/2014 12:23 AM, Devananda van der Veen wrote:
I'd like to raise this topic for a wider discussion outside of the
hallway track an
Devananda,
Thank you for such a constructive letter,
First of all, just to make sure we are on the same page, we are totally +1
for using any tool which meets our requirements and we are totally +1 for
working together on the same problems. As you remember we suggested to add
advanced partition c
On Tue Dec 09 2014 at 9:45:51 AM Fox, Kevin M wrote:
> We've been interested in Ironic as a replacement for Cobbler for some of
> our systems and have been kicking the tires a bit recently.
>
> While initially I thought this thread was probably another "Fuel not
> playing well with the community"
On Tue Dec 09 2014 at 10:13:52 AM Vladimir Kozhukalov <
vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Just to make sure everyone understands what Fuel Agent is about. Fuel
> Agent is agnostic to image format. There are 3 possibilities for image
> format
> 1) DISK IMAGE contains GPT/MBR table and a
On Tue Dec 09 2014 at 7:49:32 AM Yuriy Zveryanskyy <
yzveryans...@mirantis.com> wrote:
> On 12/09/2014 05:00 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:01:07PM +0400, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote:
>
> >> Many many various cases are possible. If you ask why we'd like to
> support
> >> a
Thank you for explaining in detail what Fuel's use case is. I was lacking
this information, and taking the FuelAgent proposal in isolation. Allow me
to respond to several points inline...
On Tue Dec 09 2014 at 4:08:45 AM Vladimir Kozhukalov <
vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote:
> Just a short explan
Excerpts from Yuriy Zveryanskyy's message of 2014-12-09 04:05:03 -0800:
> Good day Ironicers.
>
> I do not want to discuss questions like "Is feature X good for release
> Y?" or "Is feature Z in Ironic scope or not?".
> I want to get an answer for this: Is Ironic a flexible, easy extendable
> an
be that
> does imply a 3rd driver may be beneficial... But it would be nice to have
> one driver, the agent, in the end that supports everything.
>
> Anyway, some things to think over.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> From: Jim Rollen
[j...@jimrollenhagen.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 7:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:01:07PM +0400, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote:
> Just a short explanation of Fuel us
Vladimir,
IMO there is more "global" problem. Anyone who wants to use baremetal deploy
service should resolve problems with power management, PXE/iPXE support,
DHCP, etc. Or he/she can use Ironic. User has his own vision of deploy
workflow
and features needed for it. He hears from Ironic people:
We assume next step will be to put provision data (disk partition
> scheme, maybe other data) into driver_info and make Fuel Agent driver
> able to serialize those data (special format) and implement a
> corresponding data driver in Fuel Agent for this format. Again very
> simple. Maybe it is time
On 12/09/2014 05:00 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:01:07PM +0400, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote:
Just a short explanation of Fuel use case.
Fuel use case is not a cloud. Fuel is a deployment tool. We install OS on
bare metal servers and on VMs
and then configure this OS using
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:01:07PM +0400, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote:
> Just a short explanation of Fuel use case.
>
> Fuel use case is not a cloud. Fuel is a deployment tool. We install OS on
> bare metal servers and on VMs
> and then configure this OS using Puppet. We have been using Cobbler as o
On 12/09/2014 03:40 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote:
Vladimir Kozhukalov
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dmitry Tantsur mailto:dtant...@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a bit.
I'd like to note, however, that you talk a lot a
So regarding to the 3rd-party CI. There is FuelCI that runs tests for some
stackforge projects. Attaching it to Ironic to run required tests that
detect problems in FuelAgent driver is not a big deal at all and will be
done as soon as it's necessary.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vladimir Kozhuk
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Vladimir Kozhukalov
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote:
>
>
> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dmitry Tantsur
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a b
Vladimir Kozhukalov
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a bit. I'd
> like to note, however, that you talk a lot about how _different_ Fuel Agent
> is from what Ironic does now. I'd like actually to kno
Hi folks,
Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a bit. I'd
like to note, however, that you talk a lot about how _different_ Fuel
Agent is from what Ironic does now. I'd like actually to know how well
it's going to fit into what Ironic does (in additional to your specific
Good day Ironicers.
I do not want to discuss questions like "Is feature X good for release
Y?" or "Is feature Z in Ironic scope or not?".
I want to get an answer for this: Is Ironic a flexible, easy extendable
and user-oriented solution for deployment?
Yes, it is I think. IPA is the great softw
Just a short explanation of Fuel use case.
Fuel use case is not a cloud. Fuel is a deployment tool. We install OS on
bare metal servers and on VMs
and then configure this OS using Puppet. We have been using Cobbler as our
OS provisioning tool since the beginning of Fuel.
However, Cobbler assumes u
It is true that IPA and FuelAgent share a lot of functionality in common.
However there is a major difference between them which is that they are
intended to be used to solve a different problem.
IPA is a solution for provision-use-destroy-use_by_different_user use-case and
is really great for
On December 8, 2014 2:23:58 PM PST, Devananda van der Veen
wrote:
>I'd like to raise this topic for a wider discussion outside of the
>hallway
>track and code reviews, where it has thus far mostly remained.
>
>In previous discussions, my understanding has been that the Fuel team
>sought to use
I'd like to raise this topic for a wider discussion outside of the hallway
track and code reviews, where it has thus far mostly remained.
In previous discussions, my understanding has been that the Fuel team
sought to use Ironic to manage "pets" rather than "cattle" - and doing so
required extendi
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