Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-16 Thread Robert Collins
On 15 February 2014 12:15, Dirk Müller wrote: > I agree, and changing defaults has a cost as well: Every deployment > solution out there has to detect the value change, update their config > templates and potentially also migrate the setting from the old to the > new default for existing deployme

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Chapman
>Have the folks creating our puppet modules and install recommendations taken a >close look at all the options and determined >that the defaults are appropriate for deploying RHEL OSP in the configurations we >are recommending? If by our puppet modules you mean the ones in stackforge, in the vast

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Dirk Müller
>> were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were >> not providing better values >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064061. I'd agree that raising the caching timeout is a not a good "production default" choice. I'd also argue that the underlying issue is fixed

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 11:30 -0800, Greg C wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:38 AM, David Kranz > wrote: > > Defaults in conf files seem to be one of the following: > > - Generic, appropriate for most situations > - Appropriate for devstack > -

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-02-13 07:19:18 -0800: > * Identify settings that need to scale with the size of the underlying > VM or host capabilities, and provide patches to the configuration file > comments that clearly indicate a recommended scaling factor. Remember > that folks writ

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Greg C
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:38 AM, David Kranz wrote: > > Defaults in conf files seem to be one of the following: > > - Generic, appropriate for most situations > - Appropriate for devstack > - Appropriate for small, distro-based deployment > - Approprate for large deployment > In my experiences

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-14 Thread Lingxian Kong
2014-02-13 23:19 GMT+08:00 Jay Pipes : > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:38 -0500, David Kranz wrote: > > I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf > > were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were > > not providing better values > > https://bugzilla.red

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-02-13 09:01, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2014-02-13 06:38:52 -0800: I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were not providing better values https://bugzilla.redhat

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:38 -0500, David Kranz wrote: > I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf > were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were > not providing better values > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064061. Since there ar

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread Boris Pavlovic
David, Good that you rise this topic. It is actually sad that you have to make a big investigation of OpenStack config params, before you are able to use OpenStack. I think that this work should be done mostly inside upstream. So I have a couple of ideas how we can simplify investigation of how

Re: [openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2014-02-13 06:38:52 -0800: > I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf > were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were > not providing better values > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064061. J

[openstack-dev] "bad" default values in conf files

2014-02-13 Thread David Kranz
I was recently bitten by a case where some defaults in keystone.conf were not appropriate for real deployment, and our puppet modules were not providing better values https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064061. Since there are hundreds (thousands?) of options across all the services. I