Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][Neutron] Running out of memory on gate for linux bridge job

2017-01-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 1/18/2017 4:53 AM, Jens Rosenboom wrote: > >> To me it looks like the times of 2G are long gone, Nova is using >> almost 2G all by itself. And 8G may be getting tight if additional >> stuff like Ceph is being added. >> >> > I'm not real

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][TC] 'team:danger-not-diverse tag' and my concerns

2015-09-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jim Meyer wrote: > On Sep 11, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Shamail Tahir wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Joshua Harlow > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I was reading over the TC IRC logs for this week (my weekly reading) and >> I just wanted to let my thoughts and

Re: [openstack-dev] 9/4 state of the gate

2015-09-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 9/4/2015 3:13 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > >> There are a few things blowing up in the last 24 hours so might as well >> make people aware. >> >> 1. gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops was failing at a decent rate: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][manila] "latest" microversion considered dangerous

2015-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 28, 2015 6:49 AM, "Sean Dague" wrote: > > On 08/28/2015 09:32 AM, Alex Meade wrote: > > I don't know if this is really a big problem. IMO, even with > > microversions you shouldn't be implementing things that aren't backwards > > compatible within the major version. I thought the benefit of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] CI for reliable live-migration

2015-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 8/26/2015 3:21 AM, Timofei Durakov wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Here is the situation: nova has live-migration feature but doesn't have >> ci job to cover it by functional tests, only >> gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full(non-voting, btw),

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] schedule instance based on CPU frequency ?

2015-07-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > Le 03/07/2015 15:25, Jay Pipes a écrit : > >> On 07/03/2015 06:32 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: >> >>> Le 02/07/2015 21:40, Jay Pipes a écrit : >>> On 07/01/2015 12:23 AM, ChangBo Guo wrote: > thanks Dan and Jay, we don't need a

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-26 Thread Joe Gordon
No On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Joe Gordon > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >>> On 06/24/2015 01:41 PM, Russell Bryant wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 06/24/2015 01:41 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: >> > On 06/24/2015 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [Nova] [Ironic] [Magnum] Microversion guideline in API-WG

2015-06-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > On 06/26/2015 04:08 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 06/26/2015 07:43 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: >> >>> On 06/26/2015 01:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 06/16/2015 09:51 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > On 06/16/2015 08:56 AM, Dmitry T

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] The unbearable lightness of specs

2015-06-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > On 06/24/2015 10:17 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy > <mailto:kcham...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] The unbearable lightness of specs

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 06/24/2015 08:38 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > > > I urge people to reply to this instead of my original email as the > > writing is more detailed and balanced. > > OK, I've read what others

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] The unbearable lightness of specs

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
o... :) And they were added > to > > fill a gap, which has already been pointed out in this thread. So if we > > remove them without a replacement for that gap, we regress. > > Oops, I didn't mean to say that "Specs" as a concept should be gone. > Sorr for poor

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 06/24/2015 01:41 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > > On 06/24/2015 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Dague >> <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Joe Gordon > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >>> On 06/24/2015 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> On 06/24/2015 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Dague > > <mailto:s...@dague.

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 06/24/2015 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Dague > <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote: > > > > Back when Nova first wanted to test partial upgr

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How to properly detect and fence a compromised host (and why I dislike TrustedFilter)

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi team, > > Some discussion occurred over IRC about a bug which was publicly open > related to TrustedFilter [1] > I want to take the opportunity for raising my concerns about that specific > filter, why I dislike it and how I think we coul

Re: [openstack-dev] [grenade] future direction on partial upgrade support

2015-06-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Back when Nova first wanted to test partial upgrade, we did a bunch of > slightly odd conditionals inside of grenade and devstack to make it so > that if you were very careful, you could just not stop some of the old > services on a single node

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal of nova-hyper driver

2015-06-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Peng Zhao wrote: >Hi, all, > > I would like to propose nova-hyper driver: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-hyper. > >- What is Hyper? >Put simply, Hyper is a hypervisor-agnostic Docker runtime. It is >similar to Intel’s ClearCont

Re: [openstack-dev] [Sahara] Difference between Sahara and CloudBrak

2015-06-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Chris Buccella wrote: > I tried (or tried to try) Cloudbreak recently, as I need to deploy a newer > version of HDP than Sahara supports. > > The interface is slick, but lacks the ability to make some choices about > your OpenStack installation. The heat template

Re: [openstack-dev] stackforge projects are not second class citizens

2015-06-21 Thread Joe Gordon
r-2015/summit-videos/presentation/the-big-tent-a-look-at-the-new-openstack-projects-governance >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, this is great feedback and we may indeed need to do a >>> better job to explain the big tent. That presentation, I believe, was >>

Re: [openstack-dev] stackforge projects are not second class citizens

2015-06-21 Thread Joe Gordon
n it a fair chance first. > I never intended this email to call for change. I was simply trying to evaluate one of the big tent motivations, now that we have preliminary numbers on it. And my initial analysis was wrong. > > Thanks, > > Adrian > > On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:25 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] stackforge projects are not second class citizens

2015-06-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 06/15/2015 06:20 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> One of the stated problems the 'big tent' is supposed to solve is: >> >> 'The binary nature of the integrated release results in projects outside >&

Re: [openstack-dev] stackforge projects are not second class citizens

2015-06-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > One of the stated problems the 'big tent' is supposed to solve is: > > 'The binary nature of the integrated release results in projects outside > the integrated release failing to get the recognition they deserve. &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Stackalytics] Complementary projects

2015-06-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jun 19, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: > > On 06/19/2015 09:19 AM, Ilya Shakhat wrote: >> >> Some reasons of having complementary projects in Stackalytics: >> * to compare efforts in other communities with OpenStack - just to >> feed curiosity on what is larger OpenStack or Kubernetes? >>

Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that

2015-06-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jun 19, 2015 1:19 PM, "Ihar Hrachyshka" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 06/18/2015 09:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Brian Curtin's message of 2015-06-18 13:17:52 -0500: > >> On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Exc

Re: [openstack-dev] Getting rid of suds, which is unmaintained, and which we want out of Debian

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/15/2015 11:31 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > Nova itself doesn't depend on suds anymore. > > A quick grep still shows references to suds (that's in Kilo, but the > master branch shows similar results): >

[openstack-dev] stackforge projects are not second class citizens

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Gordon
One of the stated problems the 'big tent' is supposed to solve is: 'The binary nature of the integrated release results in projects outside the integrated release failing to get the recognition they deserve. "Non-official" projects are second- or third-class citizens which can't get development re

Re: [openstack-dev] Getting rid of suds, which is unmaintained, and which we want out of Debian

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/11/2015 11:31 PM, Nikhil Manchanda wrote: > > Hi Thomas: > > > > I just checked and I don't see suds as a requirement for trove. > > I don't think it should be a requirement for the trove debian package, > > either. > > > > Thanks, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Issue with pymysql

2015-06-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 06/12/2015 01:17 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > > It is however interesting that both "lock wait timeouts" and "missing > > savepoint" errors occur in operations pertaining the same table - > > securitygroups in this case. > > I wonder if th

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-06-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Ian Cordasco wrote: > > > On 6/10/15, 09:12, "Thomas Goirand" wrote: > > >On 06/10/2015 12:25 PM, Dave Walker wrote: > >> The initial core reviewers was seeded by representatives of distro's and > >> vendors to get their input on viability in distro's. > > > >Rea

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Switching to SQLAlchemy 1.0.x

2015-06-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > > On 6/9/15 9:26 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The python-sqlalchemy package has been uploaded to Debian Experimental, >> and is about to be uploaded to Debian Unstable. So I wonder what's the >> state of the project regarding upgra

Re: [openstack-dev] [release][oslo] oslo.middleware release 2.0.0 (liberty)

2015-06-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:14 PM, wrote: > We are excited to announce the release of: > > oslo.middleware 2.0.0: Oslo Middleware library > And this broke the gate, but the fix is already working its way though the system. https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1463478 > > This release is part

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] [all] Liberty summit: Updates in Glance

2015-06-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 01/06/15 13:30 +0100, John Garbutt wrote: > >> On 1 June 2015 at 13:10, Flavio Percoco wrote: >> >>> On 01/06/15 11:57 +0100, John Garbutt wrote: >>> > On 26/05/15 13:54 -0400, Nikhil Komawar wrote: > >> >> On 5/26/1

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][infra][tc][ptl] Scaling up code review process (subdir cores)

2015-06-02 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 3 June 2015 at 10:34, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2015-06-02 21:59:34 + (+), Ian Cordasco wrote: > >> I like this very much. I recall there was a session at the summit > >> about this that Thierry and Kyle led. If I recall corre

[openstack-dev] [all] inactive projects

2015-05-29 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, It turns out we have a few repositories that have been inactive for almost a year, appear to be dead but don't have any documentation to reflecting that. (And a lot more that have been dead for over half a year) format: days since last updated - name List of stackforge that have not bee

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] The new Lieutenant system in Neutron

2015-05-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > As part of the team's continuing effort to scale development in Neutron, > we have officially merged the Lieutenant patch [1]. As the codebase > continues to grow, this is an attempt to scale the code review load so we > can grow new core rev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Devananda van der Veen < devananda@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > tl;dr; > > At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with > the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. > I had a brief follow-up conversation

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
you simply state chef, and either require users to provide it or tell them to use a chef heat template, glance image, etc. > > Thanks, > Kevin > -- > *From:* Joe Gordon [joe.gord...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:20 PM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailin

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Christopher Aedo wrote: > I want to start off by thanking everyone who joined us at the first > working session in Vancouver, and those folks who have already started > adding content to the app catalog. I was happy to see the enthusiasm > and excitement, and am l

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: Return request-id to caller

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
rs/developers to analyse logs effectively. > Thank you for writing this up. > > > To address this issue we have come up with following solutions: > > > > Solution 1: Return tuple containing headers and body from respective > clients (also favoured by Joe Gordon) &

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: Return request-id to caller

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
g. It will help > operators/developers to analyse logs effectively. > > > > To address this issue we have come up with following solutions: > > > > Solution 1: Return tuple containing headers and body from respective > clients (also favoured by Joe Gordon) > > Reference:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][oslo] Stepping down from oslo-ironic liaison

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Victor, > > Nice, yes, Joe was the liaison with Nova so far. Yes, please go ahead > and add your name in the wiki for Nova as i believe Joe is winding > down the oslo liaison as well. > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.vmware release 0.13.0 (liberty)

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
general python community. > For openstack libraries that have a fairly limited number of consumers we can test source of the lib against target unit test suites, in addition to a devstack run. So oslo.vmware would have a job running source oslo.vmware against nova py27 unit tests. As for in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Using depends-on for patches which require an approved spec

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:57:23PM -0700, Michael Still wrote: > > Hey, > > > > it would be cool if devs posting changes for nova which depend on us > > approving their spec could use Depends-On to make sure their code > > doesn't land

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][all] Scalable metering

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:03 PM, gordon chung wrote: > hi Tim, > > we're still doing some investigation but we're tracking/discussing part of > the polling load issue here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185084/ > > we're open to any ideas -- especially from nova api et al experts. > > So I agr

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.vmware release 0.13.0 (liberty)

2015-05-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > Hi, > I prefer the patched posted by Sabari. The patch has two changes: > >1. It fixes unit tests >2. In the even that an instance spawn fails then it catches an >exception to warn the admin that the guestId may be invalid. The o

Re: [openstack-dev] meeting with the zaqar team at summit; my notes

2015-05-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > I’m posting this to the mailing list to summarize my notes from a > meeting at 5pm yesterday at Summit relative to Zaqar and lightweight > multi-tenant messaging and how it may be applicable to a number of projects. > > > > I’ll begin by say

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] RPC Asynchronous Communication

2015-05-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui < sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 09:13:59AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2015-05-07 17:43:06 -0700: > > > On May 7, 2015 2:37 AM, "Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui" < > > > sahi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate pep8 jobs broken today

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Gordon
Once these land [0], I can cut Hacking 0.8.2 and 0.9.6 to unblock projects still using hacking 0.8.x and 0.9.x respectively [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I77f2b7e661c4de067e39596765d36a4463a2d143,n,z On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > On May 19, 2015 12

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate pep8 jobs broken today

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On May 19, 2015 12:43 AM, "Andreas Jaeger" wrote: > > On 05/19/2015 09:28 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> >> On 05/19/2015 02:54 AM, Robert Collins wrote: >>> >>> Hi, we had a gate outage today for a few hours. >>> >>> http://pad.lv/1456376 >>> >>> The issue was an interaction between the existence o

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][all] Architecture Diagrams in ascii art?

2015-05-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:52 AM, John Garbutt > wrote: > >> On 12 May 2015 at 20:33, Sean Dague wrote: >> > On 05/12/2015 01:12 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> >> On 2015-05-12 10:04:11 -0700 (-07

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][all] Architecture Diagrams in ascii art?

2015-05-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Sean Dague wrote: > > They can be modified if you provide source files, or use a source > > oriented format like SVG, or ISO standard ODG (used by OpenOffice / > > LibreOffice). There is a reason the "spider" diagram has ended up in > > eve

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][all] Architecture Diagrams in ascii art?

2015-05-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:52 AM, John Garbutt wrote: > On 12 May 2015 at 20:33, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 05/12/2015 01:12 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > >> On 2015-05-12 10:04:11 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> It's a nice up side. However, as others have pointed out, it's only > >>> capabl

Re: [openstack-dev] [surge] Introducing Surge - rapid deploy/scale stream processing systems on OpenStack

2015-05-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Debojyoti Dutta wrote: > Hi, > > It gives me a great pleasure to introduce Surge - a system to rapidly > deploy and scale a stream processing system on OpenStack. It leverages > Vagrant and Ansible, and supports both OpenStack as well as the local mode > (with Vi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] A way for Operators/Users to submit feature requests

2015-05-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On May 14, 2015 12:50 PM, "Maish Saidel-Keesing" wrote: > > I just saw an email on the Operators list [1] that I think would allow a much simpler process for the non-developer community to submit a feature request. I understand that this was raised once upon a time [2] - at least in part a while b

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] python-novaclient 2.25.0

2015-05-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2015-05-12 19:43:21 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon wrote: > [...] > > But then we go on to install nova which has the correct cap, and we > revert > > to the right cinderclient for kilo > > > > > http:/

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] python-novaclient 2.25.0

2015-05-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2015-05-12 17:40:47 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon wrote: > > And openstackclient 1.0.4 broke grenade: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1454467 > > > > I think we need a 1.1 rel

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] python-novaclient 2.25.0

2015-05-12 Thread Joe Gordon
And openstackclient 1.0.4 broke grenade: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1454467 I think we need a 1.1 release for trunk and make sure caps are set so its not used in stable/kilo. Or something like that. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 5/

[openstack-dev] [nova][all] Architecture Diagrams in ascii art?

2015-05-11 Thread Joe Gordon
When learning about how a project works one of the first things I look for is a brief architecture description along with a diagram. For most OpenStack projects, all I can find is a bunch of random third party slides and diagrams. Most Individual OpenStack projects have either no architecture diag

Re: [openstack-dev] [swift] Go! Swift!

2015-05-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Chuck Thier wrote: > I think most are missing the point a bit. The question that should really > be asked is, what is right for Swift to continue to scale. Since the > inception of Openstack, Swift has had to solve for problems of scale that > generally are not s

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements] global-requirements not co-installable

2015-05-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 05/08/2015 07:13 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > > On 8 May 2015 at 22:54, Sean Dague wrote: > >> I'm slightly confused how we got there, because we do try to install > >> everything all at once in the test jobs - > >> > http://logs.openstack.or

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] RPC Asynchronous Communication

2015-05-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On May 7, 2015 2:37 AM, "Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui" < sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > The primary point of this expected discussion around asynchronous > communication is to optimize performance by reducing latency. > > For instance the design used in Nova and probably other projects

Re: [openstack-dev] [be nice] Before doing big non backardcompabitle changes in how gates work make sure that all PTL are informed about that

2015-05-07 Thread Joe Gordon
As a heads up, here is a patch to remove Sahara from the default configuration as well. This is part of the effort to further decouple the 'integrated gate' so we don't have to gate every project on the tests for every project. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181230/ On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:58

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: periodic developer newsletter?

2015-05-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:53 AM, James Bottomley < james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 10:45 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Joe Gordon wrote: > > > [...] > > > To tackle this I would like to propose the idea of a periodic develop

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: periodic developer newsletter?

2015-05-05 Thread Joe Gordon
audiences to have one place to look at weekly and skim rapidly to see if > they missed something interesting. > > Over the years I have tried to change it based on feedback I received so > this conversation is great to have > > On 05/04/2015 12:03 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: periodic developer newsletter?

2015-05-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 5 May 2015 at 07:03, Joe Gordon wrote: > > Before going any further, I am proposing something to make it easier for > the > > developer community to keep track of what other projects are working on. > I > > a

[openstack-dev] [all] cross project communication: periodic developer newsletter?

2015-05-04 Thread Joe Gordon
Before going any further, I am proposing something to make it easier for the developer community to keep track of what other projects are working on. I am not proposing anything to directly help operators or users, that is a separate problem space. In Mark McClain's TC candidacy email he brought

Re: [openstack-dev] [Elections] TC Election analysis

2015-04-30 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: > > On 04/30/15 21:48, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> As others have done for past elections, here is a brief breakdown of the >> TC election ballot data. >> >> analysis: http://paste.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [Elections] TC Election analysis

2015-04-30 Thread Joe Gordon
As others have done for past elections, here is a brief breakdown of the TC election ballot data. analysis: http://paste.openstack.org/show/213831 source code: http://paste.openstack.org/show/213830 Some highlights are: * 3 people voted but ranked everyone as #19 * 16% of the ballots voted for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal to add Melanie Witt to nova-core

2015-04-30 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:30 AM, John Garbutt wrote: > Hi, > > I propose we add Melanie to nova-core. > > She has been consistently doing great quality code reviews[1], > alongside a wide array of other really valuable contributions to the > Nova project. > > Please respond with comments, +1s, or

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] A big tent home for Neutron backend code

2015-04-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Russell Bryant > wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> A couple of things I've been working on lately are project governance >> issues as a TC member and also implementation of a new virtual >> networking alternative wit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?)

2015-04-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 24/04/15 20:00, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Fox, Kevin M > <mailto:kevin@pnnl.gov>> wrote: >> >> Notification might be a good way to integrate with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?)

2015-04-27 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 24/04/15 19:02, Joe Gordon wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Flavio Percoco > <mailto:fla...@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> I'd l

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?)

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
ch as https://aws.amazon.com/articles/1464 > Thanks, > Kevin > ------ > *From:* Joe Gordon [joe.gord...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 4:02 PM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [opens

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Call for adoption (or exclusion?)

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > Greetings, > > I'd like my first action as Zaqar's PTL to be based on reflections and > transparency with regards to what our past has been, to what our > present is and to what our future could be as a project and community. > Therefore, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest][nova][cinder] Tests that try to detach volumes in use

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Peter Penchev wrote: > Hi, > > There are a couple of Tempest volume tests, like > test_rescued_vm_detach_volume or test_list_get_volume_attachments, > that either sometimes[0] or always attempt to detach a volume from a > running instance while the instance could

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Add config option for real deletes instead of soft-deletes

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Artom Lifshitz wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to gauge acceptance of introducing a feature that would give > operators > a config option to perform real database deletes instead of soft deletes. > > There's definitely a need for *something* that cleans up the databa

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote my spec to Port Nova to Python 3: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176868/ > > >> I squashed all my commits into a single commit of my draft port and I > pushed it at: > >> > https://github.com/haypo/nova/commit/bad54bc2b

Re: [openstack-dev] Please stop reviewing code while asking questions

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24 2015, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > When I get a -1 on one of my patches with a question, I personally treat > it > > as a short coming of the commit message. To often in the past I have > looked > &g

Re: [openstack-dev] Please stop reviewing code while asking questions

2015-04-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2015-04-24 15:02:01 +: > > There have been many replies on this thread, I'll just reply to this one > rather than trying to reply piecemeal. > > > > Doug, there's asking a question because somethi

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > > How invasive would the port to python3 be? > > I squashed all my commits into a single commit of my draft port and I > pushed it at: > > https://github.com/haypo/nova/commit/bad54bc2b278c7c7cb7fa6cc73d03c70138bd89d I like how t

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > It's moving fast. I'm currently working on porting remaining libraries to > prepare my spec for nova. > Great, I did't realize how close all the dependencies were. > > > oslo.db -- looks like it is almost there > > I don't know t

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Introducing the Cloud Service Federation project (cross-project design summit proposal)

2015-04-22 Thread Joe Gordon
ng avenue for research is going to be the development of a "virtual region" metadata schema that will allow a tenant (or a broker) to determine the characteristics of virtual regions. (Such a model might be a useful complement to the RefStack work.) > > Geoff > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][releases] upcoming library releases to unfreeze requirements in master

2015-04-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Matt Riedemann < > mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 4/21/2015 2:44 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's me

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][releases] upcoming library releases to unfreeze requirements in master

2015-04-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > On 4/21/2015 2:44 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-04-21 13:11:09 -0400: >> >>> I'm working on releasing a *bunch* of libraries, including clients, from >>> their master branches so we can thaw

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > >> For the full list, see the wiki page: > >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Core_OpenStack_projects > > > Thanks for updating the wiki page that is a very useful list. > > From the looks of things, it seems like nova getting Pytho

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ian Cordasco wrote: > On 4/16/15, 17:54, "Clint Byrum" wrote: > > >Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2015-04-16 15:15:01 -0700: > >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Victor Stinner > >>wrote: > >> > >> > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Dependencies

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra][cinder] Could you please re-consider Oracle ZFSSA iSCSI Driver

2015-04-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Diem Tran wrote: > Hi Duncan, > > We totally understand that CI is not a box ticking exercise, it actually > serves a purpose, and we are fully on board with the need for CI. We have > resources monitoring the CI results and handling failures on daily basis. > I

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra][cinder] Could you please re-consider Oracle ZFSSA iSCSI Driver

2015-04-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > Hi Diem > > It appears the CI failed to pass on any of the 5 reviews you linked to. > Are there any examples of the CI passing? > > I don't see any passing runs in the last 20 comments left by 'Oracle ZFSSA CI' http://paste.openstack.org/sh

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Dependencies appears to be > fairly out of date. > > You're right. I updated this wiki page. In practice, much more OpenStack > clients, Common Libraries and Development Tools are already Python 3 >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Introducing the Cloud Service Federation project (cross-project design summit proposal)

2015-04-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Geoff Arnold wrote: > I’ve discussed this with the Keystone team, especially the Reseller folks, > but not as deeply as we need to. > > The biggest challenge that I see with doing this inside any existing > project is the Aggregator system. It’s an independent de

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Chris Dent wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Joe Gordon wrote: > > Upstream there are two separate concepts. >>> >>> install_requirements, which are meant to document what *must* be >>> installed to import the package, and sho

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 13 April 2015 at 12:53, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > What we have in the gate is the thing that produces the artifacts that > > someone installing using the pip tool would get. Shipping anything with > > those artifacts other that a direct

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Robert Collins wrote: > > On 13 April 2015 at 22:04, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> How does this proposal affect stable branches ? In order to keep the > >> breakage there under control, we now have stable branches for all the > >> OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][pbr] splitting our deployment vs install dependencies

2015-04-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > Right now we do something that upstream pip considers wrong: we make > our requirements.txt be our install_requires. > > Upstream there are two separate concepts. > > install_requirements, which are meant to document what *must* be > instal

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] novaclient 'stable-compat-jobs-{name}' broken

2015-04-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:02 PM, melanie witt wrote: > Hi all, > > The following 'stable-compat-jobs-{name}' build jobs have been broken the > past two days, blocking all novaclient patches from passing jenkins checks: > > gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-novaclient-icehouse > gate-tempest-ds

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] eventlet 0.17.3 is now fully Python 3 compatible

2015-04-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > During the last OpenStack Summit at Paris, we discussed how we can port > OpenStack to Python 3, because eventlet was not compatible with Python 3. > There are multiple approaches: port eventlet to Python 3, replace eventlet > with a

[openstack-dev] [nova] Nova Project Priorities for Liberty

2015-04-08 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, After moderate success with our Kilo priorities effort and both Nova PTL candidates mentioning they wish to continue the process, its time to start thinking about the new priority list for Liberty. Just like last time [0]: We are now collecting ideas for project priorities on this etherpa

Re: [openstack-dev] Fixing the Nova Core Reviewer Frustration [was Re: [Nova] PTL Candidacy]

2015-04-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:02 AM, James Bottomley < james.bottom...@hansenpartnership.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 11:27 +1000, Michael Still wrote: > > Additionally, we have consistently asked for non-cores to help cover > > the review load. It doesn't have to be a core that notices a probl

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