Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:29 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise > > > 3. Another long-term topic is standardizing our APIs so that we use > > con

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon]Dev environment default login

2014-09-11 Thread Richard Jones
I needs to point at a devstack or openstack installation for login to work. On 12 September 2014 15:50, Rajdeep Dua wrote: > Hi, > I have setup a local dev environment with a custom dashboard using > instructions below > > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/tutorial.html > > Hori

[openstack-dev] [Horizon]Dev environment default login

2014-09-11 Thread Rajdeep Dua
Hi, I have setup a local dev environment with a custom dashboard using instructions below http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/tutorial.html Horizon started using ./run_tests.sh --runserver 0.0.0.0:8877 What is the default password for admin login? Note : it is not pointing to any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-11 Thread Kevin Benton
> Maybe I missed something, but what's the solution? There isn't one yet. That's why it's going to be discussed at the summit. > I think we should release a workable version. Definitely. But that doesn't have anything to do with it living in the same repository. By putting it in a different repo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-11 Thread Germy Lure
Some comments inline. BR, Germy On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > This has been brought up several times already and I believe is going to > be discussed at the Kilo summit. > Maybe I missed something, but what's the solution? > I agree that reviewing third party patches

Re: [openstack-dev] Supporting Javascript clients calling OpenStack APIs

2014-09-11 Thread Richard Jones
On 12 September 2014 09:24, Richard Jones wrote: > On 12 September 2014 07:50, Adam Young wrote: > >> So, lets have these two approaches work in parallel. THe proxy will get >> things goint while we work out the CORS approach. >> > > I will look at submitting my middleware for inclusion anyway

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: > On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: > >> On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > >>> On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Flav

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Lu, Lianhao
Definitely +1 from me Lianhao > -Original Message- > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:25 PM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core > > Hi, > > Dina has be

Re: [openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed consistency

2014-09-11 Thread Jamie Lennox
- Original Message - > From: "Travis S Tripp" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Friday, 12 September, 2014 10:30:53 AM > Subject: [openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed > consistency > > > > Hi All, > > > > I’

Re: [openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed consistency

2014-09-11 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Hi Travis, By and large we have addressed this in the Session code within Keystoneclient via the function here (and other similar cases): https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/01cabf6bbbee8b5340295f3be5e1fa7111387e7d/keystoneclient/session.py#L126-L131 If/when Glanceclient is

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Jamie Lennox
- Original Message - > From: "Steven Hardy" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Friday, 12 September, 2014 12:21:52 AM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying > tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility >

[openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed consistency

2014-09-11 Thread Tripp, Travis S
Hi All, I'm just helping with bug triage in Glance and we've got a bug to update how tokens are redacted in the glanceclient [1]. It says to update to whatever cross-project approach is agreed upon and references this thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037345.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Jamie Lennox
- Original Message - > From: "Sean Dague" > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2014 9:44:43 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying > tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility > > On 09/10/2014 08:46 PM, Jamie L

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-11 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Kurt, Speaking generally, I’d like to see the project bake this in over time as > part of the CI process. It’s definitely useful information not just for > the developers but also for operators in terms of capacity planning. We’ve > talked as a team about doing this with Rally (and in fact, some

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] pep8 - splitting expressions

2014-09-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 11, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > I'd suggest trying: > >res = amodel.Assemblies( >uri=common.ASSEM_URI_STR % pecan.request.host_url, >name='Solum_CAMP_assemblies', >type='assemblies', >description=common.ASSEM_DESC_S

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-11 Thread James Penick
We manage a fairly large nova-baremetal installation at Yahoo. And while we've developed tools to hit the nova-bm API, we're planning to move to ironic without any support for the nova BM API. Definitely no interest in the proxy API from our end.  Sometimes you just need to let a thing die.  -Ja

Re: [openstack-dev] Supporting Javascript clients calling OpenStack APIs

2014-09-11 Thread Richard Jones
On 11 September 2014 18:00, Robert Collins wrote: > FWIW I'm very much in favour of having a single host API - I was > looking at doing that in Apache for TripleO deployments anyway, due to > the better SSL deployment characteristics. We then would register the > actual single host endpoint in pu

Re: [openstack-dev] Supporting Javascript clients calling OpenStack APIs

2014-09-11 Thread Richard Jones
On 12 September 2014 07:50, Adam Young wrote: > On 09/11/2014 03:15 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > > [This is Horizon-related but affects every service in OpenStack, hence no > filter in the subject] > > I would like for OpenStack to support browser-based Javascript API > clients. > Currently this

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-11 Thread Kurt Griffiths
On 9/11/14, 2:11 PM, "Devananda van der Veen" wrote: >OK - those resource usages sound better. At least you generated enough >load to saturate the uWSGI process CPU, which is a good point to look >at performance of the system. > >At that peak, what was the: >- average msgs/sec >- min/max/avg/stde

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 FFE - add reset-state function for backups

2014-09-11 Thread Jay Bryant
It isn't a huge change. I am ok with it if we can get the issues addressed. Especially Duncan's concern. On Sep 11, 2014 12:17 PM, "Mike Perez" wrote: > On 12:23 Tue 09 Sep , yunling wrote: > > Hi Cinder Folks,I would like to request a FFE for add reset-state > function for backups[1][2].

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/11/2014 04:09 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: Swift is the current exception here, but one could argue, and people have[2], that Swift is also the only project that actually conforms to our stated design tenets for OpenStack. I'd struggle to tell the Zaqar folks they've done the Wrong Thing... espec

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/11/2014 04:22 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: I would be a little wary about the DB level locking for stuff like that — it’s certainly doable, but also comes at the expense of things behaving ever-so-slightly different from DBMS to DBMS. Perhaps there are multiple “logical efforts” here—i.e., addin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Joe Cropper
I would be a little wary about the DB level locking for stuff like that — it’s certainly doable, but also comes at the expense of things behaving ever-so-slightly different from DBMS to DBMS. Perhaps there are multiple “logical efforts” here—i.e., adding some APIs and cleaning up existing code.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC h

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/09/14 15:03, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During the meeting some concerns arose. I've listed those concerns b

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] pep8 - splitting expressions

2014-09-11 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 12:05 -0700, Gilbert Pilz wrote: > I have a question with regards to splitting expressions in order to > conform to the pep8 line-length restriction. I have the following bit > of code: > > > res = amodel.Assemblies(uri=common.ASSEM_URI_STR % >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/11/2014 03:01 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/11/2014 04:51 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/10/2014 6:00 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 09/10/2014 06:46 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hmm, not sure I follow the concern, Russell. How is that any different from putting a VM into the group when it’s boote

Re: [openstack-dev] Supporting Javascript clients calling OpenStack APIs

2014-09-11 Thread Adam Young
On 09/11/2014 03:15 AM, Richard Jones wrote: [This is Horizon-related but affects every service in OpenStack, hence no filter in the subject] I would like for OpenStack to support browser-based Javascript API clients. Currently this is not possible because of cross-origin resource blocking in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > Hi, > > Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of > reviews and has been very active in our community. > > I'd like to propose that we add Din

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Working on 6.0 and new releases in general

2014-09-11 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
Roman, In the workflow with 2 package repositories per 1 fuel branch set (e.g. icehouse & juno for 6.0, or juno & kilo later in 6.0 release cycle), we should aim to keep packages targeted for both repositories as close as possible, so default mode of operation should be to put new packages in both

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/11/2014 04:51 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/10/2014 6:00 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 09/10/2014 06:46 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hmm, not sure I follow the concern, Russell. How is that any different from putting a VM into the group when it’s booted as is done today? This simply defers t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-11 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/10/2014 6:00 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 09/10/2014 06:46 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hmm, not sure I follow the concern, Russell. How is that any different from putting a VM into the group when it’s booted as is done today? This simply defers the ‘group insertion time’ to some time after

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Working on 6.0 and new releases in general

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
What would be your suggestions then on the issue? We want to avoid breaking of our fuel-library and other code without knowing about it, so it's not an option to simply forget about compatibility with Icehouse packages. And I'm actually +1 for introducing Kilo CI jobs as soon as we can, so to keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 04/09/14 08:14, Sean Dague wrote: I've been one of the consistent voices concerned about a hard requirement on adding NoSQL into the mix. So I'll explain that thinking a bit more. I feel like when the TC makes an integration decision previously this has been about evaluating the project appl

[openstack-dev] [qa] Tempest Bug triage

2014-09-11 Thread David Kranz
So we had a Bug Day this week and the results were a bit disappointing due to lack of participation. We went from 124 New bugs to 75. There were also many cases where bugs referred to logs that no longer existed. This suggests that we really need to keep up with bug triage in real time. Since b

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Working on 6.0 and new releases in general

2014-09-11 Thread Roman Vyalov
Mike, 2 jobs for Icehouse and Juno equal 2 different repository with packages for Fuel 6.0. This can be problem for current osci workflow. For example: We need building new packages. Which repository we must put packages? to icehouse or/and Juno ? if new packages will break icehouse repository, bu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
QA-agree. -- nurla On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mike Scherbakov wrote: > > Mike, i've just want to say, if feature isn't ready for production use > and we have no other choice, we should provide detailed limitations and > examples of proper use. > Fully agree, such features should become ex

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-11 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Kurt Griffiths wrote: > On 9/10/14, 3:58 PM, "Devananda van der Veen" > wrote: > >>I'm going to assume that, for these benchmarks, you configured all the >>services optimally. > > Sorry for any confusion; I am not trying to hide anything about the setup. > I thoug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: > On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > > On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, "some sort of durable > >> message-broker/queue-server thing". It's a basic application buil

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/11/2014 12:02 PM, Dan Prince wrote: Maybe I'm impatient (I totally am!) but I see much of the review slowdown as a result of the feedback loop times increasing over the years. OpenStack has some really great CI and testing but I think our focus on not breaking things actually has us painte

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Armando M.
On 10 September 2014 22:23, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 09/10/2014 10:35 PM, Armando M. wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I devoured this thread, so much it was interesting and full of >> insights. It's not news that we've been pondering about this in the >> Neutron project for the past and existing cycle or so.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Dan Prince
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 11:24 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Position statement > == > > Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that > Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If > steps are not taken to avert this, the project is likely t

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Cluster implementation is grabbing instance's gutsHi guys, I was looking through the clustering code today and noticed a lot of it is grabbing what I'd call the guts of the ins

2014-09-11 Thread Tim Simpson
Hi everyone, I was looking through the clustering code today and noticed a lot of it is grabbing what I'd call the guts of the instance models code. The best example is here: https://github.com/openstack/trove/commit/06196fcf67b27f0308381da192da5cc8ae65b157#diff-a4d09d28bd2b650c2327f5d8d81be3a9

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Stephen Wong
I agree with Kevin. Like in Juno, we as a subteam will be shooting for option 1 (again) for Kilo - ideally we can land in Kilo, and we will work closely with the community to try to accomplish that. In the meantime, we need to have a repo to iterate our implementations, build package (Juno based) t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 11:14 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > > On 9/11/14, 4:30 PM, "Sean Dague" wrote: > >> On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >>> Sean Dague wrote: > [...] > Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt inter

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Mandeep Dhami
I agree with Kevin. Any option in-tree or in-incubator would need core review time, and they are already oversubscribed with nova parity issues (for Juno). So the only option to continue collaboration on experimenting with policy based networking on current openstack is on stackforge (option 5). S

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 Feature Freeze Exception

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
Mike This FFE request was withdraw. I updated the etherpad but didn't mail the list, sorry On 11 September 2014 18:07, Mike Perez wrote: > On 19:32 Fri 05 Sep , David Pineau wrote: >> So I asked Duncan what could be done, learned about the FFE, and I am >> now humbly asking you guys to give

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 FFE - add reset-state function for backups

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Perez
On 12:23 Tue 09 Sep , yunling wrote: > Hi Cinder Folks,I would like to request a FFE for add reset-state function > for backups[1][2].The spec of add reset-state function for backups has been > reviewed and merged[2]. These code changes have been well tested and are not > very complex[3]. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 Feature Freeze Exception

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Perez
On 19:32 Fri 05 Sep , David Pineau wrote: > So I asked Duncan what could be done, learned about the FFE, and I am > now humbly asking you guys to give us a last chance to get in for > Juno. I was told that if it was possible the last delay would be next > week, and believe me, we're doing every

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Kevin Benton
Thanks. This is good writeup. >Of course this all assumes there is consensus that we should proceed with GBP, that we should continue by iterating the currently proposed design and code, and that GBP should eventually become part of Neutron. These assumptions may still be the real issues :-( . Un

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Allow for per-subnet dhcp options

2014-09-11 Thread Jonathan Proulx
Hi All, I'm hoping to get this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dhcp-options-per-subnet some love...seems it's been hanging around since January so my assumption is it's not going anywhere. As a private cloud operator I make heavy use of vlan based provider networks to plu

Re: [openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-11 Thread Abel Lopez
Yes, not sure why the HA guide says that. Only problems I've run into was around cluster upgrades. If you're running 3.2+ you'll likely have a better experience. List ha_queues in all your configs, list all your rabbit hosts (I don't use a VIP as heartbeats weren't working when I did this) On Wed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi, +1 from me too, thanks for all the hard work so far. Best Regards, Ildikó -Original Message- From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:25 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to c

Re: [openstack-dev] anyone using RabbitMQ with active/active mirrored queues?

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/11/2014 12:50 AM, Jesse Pretorius wrote: On 10 September 2014 17:20, Chris Friesen mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com>> wrote: I see that the OpenStack high availability guide is still recommending the active/standby method of configuring RabbitMQ. Has anyone tried using activ

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Sep 11 1800 UTC

2014-09-11 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sahara+Meeting&iso=20140911T18 P.S. I'm on vacation this week, so, A

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:06:01AM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: >My mistake about the mailing list, The openstack heat wiki page >(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat) only lists the "dev" list. I will >make sure to ask future usage questions on the other one. No worries, we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:20 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote: > On 11 September 2014 15:35, James Bottomley > wrote: > > > OK, so look at a concrete example: in 2002, the Linux kernel went with > > bitkeeper precisely because we'd reached the scaling limit of a single > > integration point, so we took

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steven Hardy wrote on 09/11/2014 04:21:18 AM: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: > >I'm trying to find a way to create a set of servers and attach a new > >volume to each server. > >... > > Basically creating lots of resource groups for related thin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 September 2014 15:35, James Bottomley wrote: > OK, so look at a concrete example: in 2002, the Linux kernel went with > bitkeeper precisely because we'd reached the scaling limit of a single > integration point, so we took the kernel from a single contributing team > to a bunch of them. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-11 01:27:23 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] > But seriously, we should probably put out a more official notice about > this once Kilo opens up. It's probably worth carrying in the release notes for all Juno servers... "This is the last release of OpenStack with official suppo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Gary Kotton
On 9/11/14, 4:30 PM, "Sean Dague" wrote: >On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >> >> >> On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >> >>> Sean Dague wrote: [...] Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it more sane", as I don't think there

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Licensing issue with using JSHint in build

2014-09-11 Thread Solly Ross
Thanks! ESLint looks interesting. I'm curious to see what it says about the Horizon source. I'll keep it in mind for future personal projects and the like. Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - > From: "Martin Geisler" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage q

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Jason Greathouse
My mistake about the mailing list, The openstack heat wiki page ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat) only lists the "dev" list. I will make sure to ask future usage questions on the other one. Thank you for the response and example. This is what I was missing. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:21 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Hi, > > Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of > reviews and has been very active in our community. > > I'd like to propose that we add Dina Belova to the ceilometer-core > group, as I'm convi

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Group-based Policy next steps

2014-09-11 Thread Robert Kukura
On 9/10/14, 6:54 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: Being in the incubator won't help with this if it's a different repo as well. Agreed. Given the requirement for GBP to intercept API requests, the potential couplings between policy drivers, ML2 mechanism drivers, and even service plugins (L3 router),

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 07:36 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > >>> b) The conflict Dan is speaking of is around the current situation where > >>> we > >>> have a limited core review team bandwidth and we have to pick and choose > >>> which virt driver-specific features we will review. This leads to bad >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
> Mike, i've just want to say, if feature isn't ready for production use and we have no other choice, we should provide detailed limitations and examples of proper use. Fully agree, such features should become experimental. We should have this information in release notes. Basically, Patching of O

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:46:45PM -0400, Jamie Lennox wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Steven Hardy" > > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:55:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Rados, personally, i'd want a human to do the +W. Also the critieria would include a 3) which is the CI for the driver if applicable. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Radoslav Gerganov wrote: > On 09/11/2014 04:30 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >> On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
Mike, i've just want to say, if feature isn't ready for production use and we have no other choice, we should provide detailed limitations and examples of proper use. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Tomasz Napierala wrote: > > On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:19, Mike Scherbakov > wrote: > > > Hi all, >

[openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Need help resolving a strange error with db connections in tests

2014-09-11 Thread Anna Kamyshnikova
Hello everyone! I'm working on implementing test in Neutron that checks that models are synchronized with database state [1] [2]. This is very important change as during Juno cycle big changes of database structure were done. I was working on it for rather long time but about three weeks ago stra

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 September 2014 03:17, Angus Lees wrote: > (As inspired by eg kerberos) > 2. Ensure at some environmental/top layer that the advertised token lifetime > exceeds the timeout set on the request, before making the request. This > implies (since there's no special handling in place) failing if

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:19, Mike Scherbakov wrote: > Hi all, > what about using "experimental" tag for experimental features? > > After we implemented feature groups [1], we can divide our features and for > complex features, or those which don't get enough QA resources in the dev > cycle, we c

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 September 2014 12:36, Sean Dague wrote: > I continue to not understand how N non overlapping teams makes this any > better. You have to pay the integration cost somewhere. Right now we're > trying to pay it 1 patch at a time. This model means the integration > units get much bigger, and wit

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Radoslav Gerganov
On 09/11/2014 04:30 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: Sean Dague wrote: [...] Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
> +1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for experimental features against severity. Anastasia, can you please give an example? I think we should not count them at all. Experimental features, if they are isolated, they can be in any stated. May be just very beginning of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 09:09 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > > On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: > >> Sean Dague wrote: >>> [...] >>> Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it >>> more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If it's >>> going to take a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Nadya Privalova
May I be the first :)? Big +1 from me. Thanks Dina! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: > Hi, > > Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of > reviews and has been very active in o

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Julien Danjou
Hi, Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of reviews and has been very active in our community. I'd like to propose that we add Dina Belova to the ceilometer-core group, as I'm convinced it'll help th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread Nadya Privalova
I'm in :) +1 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:58 PM, gordon chung wrote: > > Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the > > > Juno cycle and his help is very valuable. > > > I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group. > > can we minus because he ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-11 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Let's not create architectural leaks here. Let there be only tasks, but let's create a really simple template for task that user will be able to easily fill only with the command itself. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Evgeniy L wrote: > Hi, > > In most cases for plugin developers or fuel users

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
+1 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Anastasia Urlapova wrote: > > I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only > > experimental feature(s). > > +1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for > experimental features against severity. > > On Thu, S

Re: [openstack-dev] global-reqs on tooz pulls in worrisome transitive dep

2014-09-11 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Sep 09 2014, Matt Riedemann wrote: > I noticed this change [1] today for global-requirements to require tooz [2] > for > a ceilometer blueprint [3]. > > The sad part is that tooz requires pymemcache [4] which is, from what I can > tell, a memcached client that is not the same as python-me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Error in deploying ironicon Ubuntu 12.04

2014-09-11 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On September 11, 2014 3:52:59 AM PDT, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: >Oh, it's because Precise doesn't have the docker.io package[1] (nor >"docker"). > >AFAIK the -infra team is now using Trusty in gate, so it won't be a >problem. But if you think that we should still support Ironic DevStack >with

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/10/2014 07:23 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the split. Its a big prerequisite though. I think we're talking about a release worth

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread David Kranz
On 09/11/2014 07:32 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project priorities for Kilo [0]. To that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Gary Kotton
On 9/11/14, 2:55 PM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >Sean Dague wrote: >> [...] >> Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it >> more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If it's >> going to take a cycle, it's going to take a cycle anyway (it will >> pro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Experimental features and how they affect HCF

2014-09-11 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
> I think we should not count bugs for HCF criteria if they affect only > experimental feature(s). +1, absolutely agree, but we should determine count of allowed bugs for experimental features against severity. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Nikolay Markov wrote: > Probably, even "experimenta

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-11 Thread gordon chung
> Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the> Juno > cycle and his help is very valuable. > I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group.can we > minus because he makes me look bad? /sarcasm +1 for core. cheers, gord

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Triage Bug Day Today!

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/11/2014 02:28 PM, Cindy Pallares wrote: > Hi Folks! > > Glance is having its bug triage day today! Please help out if you can. > You can check out the tasks here: > > http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glancebugday > > Also here are some handy links to the untriaged bugs in glance and the > c

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Triage Bug Day Today!

2014-09-11 Thread Cindy Pallares
Hi Folks! Glance is having its bug triage day today! Please help out if you can. You can check out the tasks here: http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glancebugday Also here are some handy links to the untriaged bugs in glance and the client: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.searc

[openstack-dev] [sahara] rss for specs

2014-09-11 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, you could subscribe to specs rss now - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/rss Thanks for the Doug Hellmann for implementing it. -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara Technical Lead (OpenStack Data Processing) Principal Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. _

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugable solution for running abstract commands on nodes

2014-09-11 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, In most cases for plugin developers or fuel users it will be much easier to just write command which he wants to run on nodes instead of describing some abstract task which doesn't have any additional information/logic and looks like unnecessary complexity. But for complicated cases user will

Re: [openstack-dev] [FUEL] Re: SSL in Fuel.

2014-09-11 Thread Simon Pasquier
Hi, On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Kalinowski < skalinow...@mirantis.com> wrote: > I have some topics for [1] that I want to discuss: > > 1) Should we allow users to turn SSL on/off for Fuel master? > I think we should since some users may don't care about SSL and > enabling it wi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon

2014-09-11 Thread Ryan Brown
On 09/10/2014 06:32 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > James Polley writes: > Incidentally, that is the query in the "Wayward Changes" section of the > "Review Inbox" dashboard (thanks Sean!); for nova, you can see it here: > > > https://review.openstack.org/#/projects/openstack/nova,dashboards/impor

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: > [...] > Why don't we start with "let's clean up the virt interface and make it > more sane", as I don't think there is any disagreement there. If it's > going to take a cycle, it's going to take a cycle anyway (it will > probably take 2 cycles, realistically, we always underesti

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/10/2014 11:55 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:14:32AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: >> Going through the untriaged Nova bugs, and there are a few on a similar >> pattern: >> >> Nova operation in progress takes a while >> Crosses keystone token expiration time >> Timeout th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/10/2014 08:46 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > > - Original Message - >> From: "Steven Hardy" >> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:55:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retry

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 05:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 09:23:34AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> >>> a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original >>> proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the spl

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions > around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea > that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project > priorities for Kilo [0]. > > To that end, I would like to propose an e

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