Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Stackforge Repo Ready

2013-10-31 Thread Noorul Islam K M
Adrian Otto writes: > Team, > > Our StackForge code repo is open, so you may begin submitting code for > review. For those new to the process, I made a will page with links to the > repo and information about how to contribute: > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/Contributing > 1. .gitre

Re: [openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread Dean Troyer
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Jesse Pretorius wrote: > On 31 October 2013 18:46, John Griffith wrote: > >> Upgrading Essex->Folsom introduced both the challenge of upgrading >> nova-volume to cinder and the challenge of upgrading nova-network to >> quantum. Upgrading Folsom->Grizzly presents th

Re: [openstack-dev] Re : welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-10-31 22:45:56 + (+), Romain Hardouin wrote: > Adding a message for new comers is a good idea. > I am a new Horizon contributor, some of my fixes have been merged > (thanks to Upstream University :-) and reviewers of course) but I > still hesitate to do code review. To my mind, it i

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-dev][Nova][Discussion]Blueprint : Auto VM Discovery in OpenStack for existing workload

2013-10-31 Thread Lingxian Kong
one question here, if we have vm-discovery, what's differece between discoveried vm and orphron vm already handled in the periodic task of nova-compute? 2013/10/30 Swapnil Kulkarni > I had a discussion with russellb regarding this for yesterday, I would > like to discuss this with the team rega

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra] [Tempest] [Ironic] Testing Ironic

2013-10-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/31/2013 04:38 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > Hi all, > > Ironic has reached a point where it is capable of being added to > integration tests and the gate pipeline. Does that mean we /should/ add > it? I think so, and I'd like to know what others think, but let me be > more specific a

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Help with XML Tempest API tests

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Young
On 10/31/2013 07:58 PM, Adam Young wrote: On 10/31/2013 03:40 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So firstly, if you're an XML guru, I apologize, the questions below are probably really basic, I always prefer JSON or YAML, because every time I deal with XML, I get a week-long-headache ;) So I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Young
On 10/31/2013 03:24 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2013-10-31 13:30:32 + (+), Mark McLoughlin wrote: [...] In cases like that, I'd be of a mind to go "+2 Awesome! Thanks for catching this! It would be great to have a unit test for this, but it's clear the current code is broken so I'm fine

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Help with XML Tempest API tests

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Young
On 10/31/2013 03:40 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So firstly, if you're an XML guru, I apologize, the questions below are probably really basic, I always prefer JSON or YAML, because every time I deal with XML, I get a week-long-headache ;) So I'm writing Tempest API tests for the keystone OS

Re: [openstack-dev] Re : welcoming new committers

2013-10-31 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/31/2013 03:45 PM, Romain Hardouin wrote: > Adding a message for new comers is a good idea. > I am a new Horizon contributor, some of my fixes have been merged > (thanks to Upstream University :-) Indeed :) Can you share with us briefly what you found interesting in the sessions of Upstream U

Re: [openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Tom Fifield
On 01/11/13 08:35, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:49 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Another idea that Tom suggested is to use gerrit automation to send back to first time committers something in addition to the normal 'your patch is waiting for review' message. The message coul

[openstack-dev] [Solum] Stackforge Repo Ready

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, Our StackForge code repo is open, so you may begin submitting code for review. For those new to the process, I made a will page with links to the repo and information about how to contribute: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/Contributing Regards, Adrian

[openstack-dev] Re : welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Romain Hardouin
Hi all, Adding a message for new comers is a good idea. I am a new Horizon contributor, some of my fixes have been merged (thanks to Upstream University :-) and reviewers of course) but I still hesitate to do code review. To my mind, it is reserved to "known" developpers whose opinion matters...

[openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler]The database access in the scheduler filters

2013-10-31 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
I noticed several filters (AggregateMultiTenancyIsoaltion, ram_filter, type_filter, AggregateInstanceExtraSpecsFilter) have DB access in the host_passes(). Some will even access for each invocation. Just curios if this is considered a performance issue? With a 10k nodes, 60 VM per node, and 3 h

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Thanks for the well-wishes (from everyone)! As I said, I'm not gone for good. By way of explanation, it's a combination of things: personal items I've put off too long (startup life, right?) and new responsibilities at Nebula (which will keep me at least partly engaged in OpenStack, just not on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] HOLD THE DATES: Design Workshop @SFO

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Jay, It is November 19 and 20. Looks like because it was sent as a calendar invite that the notes were scrubbed. Here is the text: Workshop sessions Nov 19 Tuesday 9:30 am - 5 pm Nov 20 Wednesday 9:30 am - 3:00 pm (we break early on Wednesday if some of us want to catch an evening return flight

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] HOLD THE DATES: Design Workshop @SFO

2013-10-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/31/2013 05:41 PM, Roshan Agrawal wrote: ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev I think you probably want to say which particular dates people should hol

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Endre Karlson
@Gabriel, thanks for an awesome time leading Horizon in towards what is now a awesome Framework / UI for OpenStack! I'm sure you'll bring awesome to whatever you're doing next! It's very sad to see good people leave the PTL positions but hey, time goes by and people do new things. Good luck and s

[openstack-dev] [Solum] HOLD THE DATES: Design Workshop @SFO

2013-10-31 Thread Roshan Agrawal
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Endre Karlson
Nevermind and ignore the last e-mail, it was wrongly intended. Endre 2013/10/31 Endre Karlson > Hey, I'm just curious. You quitting the PTL position to focus on Nebula > efforts or ? > > > 2013/10/31 Gabriel Hurley > >> Hi all, >> >> It saddens me to say that for a mix of reasons I have decid

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Endre Karlson
Hey, I'm just curious. You quitting the PTL position to focus on Nebula efforts or ? 2013/10/31 Gabriel Hurley > Hi all, > > It saddens me to say that for a mix of reasons I have decided to abdicate > my position as PTL for Horizon. If anything, the reasons are all good ones > overall, I just h

Re: [openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:49 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > Another idea that Tom suggested is to use gerrit automation to send back > to first time committers something in addition to the normal 'your patch > is waiting for review' message. The message could be something like: > > > thank you f

[openstack-dev] [Solum] HOLD THE DATES: Design Workshop @SFO

2013-10-31 Thread Roshan Agrawal
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Re: [openstack-dev] A question about atomicity of repository commits

2013-10-31 Thread Robert Collins
On 1 November 2013 09:20, Birdsall, Dave wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to the Openstack community. I have what is probably a naïve question. > > Suppose source code for a project is in Git repository A, while the Jenkins > test suite for it is in Git repository B. > > First question: Does this happen

Re: [openstack-dev] A question about atomicity of repository commits

2013-10-31 Thread Clark Boylan
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Birdsall, Dave wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to the Openstack community. I have what is probably a naïve question. > > Suppose source code for a project is in Git repository A, while the Jenkins > test suite for it is in Git repository B. > > First question: Does this

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [savanna] [trove] Place for software configuration

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexander Kuznetsov's message of 2013-10-31 10:51:54 -0700: > Hi Heat, Savanna and Trove teams, > > All this projects have common part related to software configuration > management. For creation, an environment user should specify a hardware > parameter for vms: choose flavor, d

[openstack-dev] [Infra] [Tempest] [Ironic] Testing Ironic

2013-10-31 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Hi all, Ironic has reached a point where it is capable of being added to integration tests and the gate pipeline. Does that mean we /should/ add it? I think so, and I'd like to know what others think, but let me be more specific about what I'm talking about. At this point, it is possible for devs

Re: [openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 10/31/2013 04:15 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: >> On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >>> On 10/31/2013 07:05 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: >>> [...] If we want to grow the committer base and help people t

Re: [openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/31/2013 04:15 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: > On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> On 10/31/2013 07:05 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: >> [...] >>> If we want to grow the committer base and help people to become >>> better reviewers, taking the time to show them

[openstack-dev] A question about atomicity of repository commits

2013-10-31 Thread Birdsall, Dave
Hi, I'm new to the Openstack community. I have what is probably a naïve question. Suppose source code for a project is in Git repository A, while the Jenkins test suite for it is in Git repository B. First question: Does this happen in Openstack? (For example, are there nova tests in the tempe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/31/2013 04:06 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: > Hi all, > > It saddens me to say that for a mix of reasons I have decided to > abdicate my position as PTL for Horizon. If anything, the reasons are > all good ones overall, I just have to make the right decision for > both myself and the project.

Re: [openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 10/31/2013 07:05 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: > [...] >> If we want to grow the committer base and help people to become >> better reviewers, taking the time to show them the ropes is part of >> the game. > > hijacking the thread usi

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Abdicating the PTL Position

2013-10-31 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Hi all, It saddens me to say that for a mix of reasons I have decided to abdicate my position as PTL for Horizon. If anything, the reasons are all good ones overall, I just have to make the right decision for both myself and the project. In the interim David Lyle will be the acting PTL. The Hor

Re: [openstack-dev] HK Summit - Image Creation and Customization "unconference"?

2013-10-31 Thread Ian McLeod
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:50 -0700, Mark Washenberger wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ian McLeod > wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:56 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-10-31 11:27:39 > -0700: > > > Hello, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Closes-Bug and Launchpad

2013-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-10-31 12:43:19 -0700 (-0700), Gary Kotton wrote: > Over the last few days I have noticed that bug fixes posted to > gerrit are not updated in Launchpad. [...] Links to one or two example changes might help. There are a number of other subtle ways this can break down (wrong branch/no corres

Re: [openstack-dev] HK Summit - Image Creation and Customization "unconference"?

2013-10-31 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ian McLeod wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:56 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-10-31 11:27:39 -0700: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Would any of you attending the summit be interested in snagging an > > > unconference session t

[openstack-dev] [nova] Closes-Bug and Launchpad

2013-10-31 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, Over the last few days I have noticed that bug fixes posted to gerrit are not updated in Launchpad. Am I doing something wrong? I think that the commit message is the correct format: Closes-Bug: #. Any ideas? Thanks Gary ___ OpenStack-dev mailing li

[openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Help with XML Tempest API tests

2013-10-31 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, So firstly, if you're an XML guru, I apologize, the questions below are probably really basic, I always prefer JSON or YAML, because every time I deal with XML, I get a week-long-headache ;) So I'm writing Tempest API tests for the keystone OS-TRUST extension, as was previously requested

[openstack-dev] [sqlalchemy-migrate] Blueprint for review: Add DB2 10.5 Support

2013-10-31 Thread Matt Riedemann
I've got a sqlalchemy-migrate blueprint up for review to add DB2 support in migrate. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sqlalchemy-migrate/+spec/add-db2-support This is a pre-req for getting DB2 support into Nova so I'm targeting icehouse-1. We've been running with the migrate patches internall

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-10-31 13:30:32 + (+), Mark McLoughlin wrote: [...] > In cases like that, I'd be of a mind to go "+2 Awesome! Thanks for > catching this! It would be great to have a unit test for this, but > it's clear the current code is broken so I'm fine with merging the > fix without a test". Yo

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 10/30/2013 11:37 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > This is a bit of a social norms thread > > I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, > and I get the occasional push-back. I think this falls into a few > broad camps: > > A - there is no test suite at all, adding one

Re: [openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 31 October 2013 19:05, Russell Bryant wrote: > Right, Nova (and probably other projects, too) only supports N to N+1 > upgrades. If you need to go to N+2, you'll need to go through N+1 to > get there. > Dead right, and especially with the aggressive schedule we have this is the only sane app

Re: [openstack-dev] HK Summit - Image Creation and Customization "unconference"?

2013-10-31 Thread Ian McLeod
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:56 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-10-31 11:27:39 -0700: > > Hello, > > > > Would any of you attending the summit be interested in snagging an > > unconference session to discuss the state of play with image creation, > > customizatio

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Joshua Harlow
Agreed, I don't think we should enforce a hard requirement for the same reason we should avoid zookeeper. To me they are the same, saying 'no ZK' is the same as saying 'only mysql or rabbitmq'... Both not so open. On 10/31/13 11:04 AM, "Monty Taylor" wrote: > > >On 10/31/2013 01:32 PM, Joshu

Re: [openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 31 October 2013 18:46, John Griffith wrote: > Is your disappointment that there isn't a path from Essex --> > Grizzly/Havana, or are you unhappy with the content? Upgrading Essex->Folsom introduced both the challenge of upgrading nova-volume to cinder and the challenge of upgrading nova-netw

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Bright
I like Steve's suggestion: > The approach the Heat team have sometimes taken in this situation is to > merge the patch, but raise a bug (targetted at the next milestone) > identifying the missing coverage. I'm (almost!) a first time contributor and I've put a fix on the backburner as I find the t

Re: [openstack-dev] HK Summit - Image Creation and Customization "unconference"?

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian McLeod's message of 2013-10-31 11:27:39 -0700: > Hello, > > Would any of you attending the summit be interested in snagging an > unconference session to discuss the state of play with image creation, > customization and import? > > I can contribute an overview and demonstration

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Paul Belanger
On 13-10-30 10:37 PM, Robert Collins wrote: This is a bit of a social norms thread I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, and I get the occasional push-back. I think this falls into a few broad camps: A - there is no test suite at all, adding one in unreasonable

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:30:32PM +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: > > This is a bit of a social norms thread > > > > I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, > > and I get the occasional push-back. I think thi

[openstack-dev] welcoming new committers (was Re: When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?)

2013-10-31 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/31/2013 07:05 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: [...] > If we want to grow the committer base and help people to become > better reviewers, taking the time to show them the ropes is part of > the game. hijacking the thread using Kyle's comment as an excuse. It's not an 'if' but a 'since':

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Khanh-Toan Tran's message of 2013-10-31 07:22:06 -0700: > Hi all, > > As a newbie of the community, I'm not familiar with unittest and how to use > it here. I've learned that Jenkins runs tests > everytime we submit some code. But how to write the test and what is a 'good > test' a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Call for participation: Breakout meeting for API deep-dive

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Team, In the interest of providing adequate advance notice, we will not consider any of the timeslots for today. I have edited the poll accordingly. It also looks like a number of us did not notice that there are a lot of proposed times hiding under the accordion view of the poll. So, please t

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [savanna] [trove] Place for software configuration

2013-10-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/31/2013 01:51 PM, Alexander Kuznetsov wrote: Hi Heat, Savanna and Trove teams, All this projects have common part related to software configuration management. For creation, an environment user should specify a hardware parameter for vms: choose flavor, decide use cinder or not, config

[openstack-dev] HK Summit - Image Creation and Customization "unconference"?

2013-10-31 Thread Ian McLeod
Hello, Would any of you attending the summit be interested in snagging an unconference session to discuss the state of play with image creation, customization and import? I can contribute an overview and demonstration of our Nova-native image building tool. I'd be interested in exploring integra

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/31/2013 01:32 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > In the spirt of openness, yes I do think they are all needed. > > If they are not supported, then openstack is not open, it is a closed > system. > > We should strive to innovate, not strive to be stuck with the status quo. > > To me it is a devel

[openstack-dev] [Savanna] Release 0.3 retrospective

2013-10-31 Thread Alexander Ignatov
Hi, Here is the wiki page with Savanna release 0.3 retrospective: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Savanna/Release_0.3_Retrospective Thanks everyone who sent your opinions. If someone wants to add more thoughts you are welcome to edit above page! -- Regards, Alexander Ignatov ___

[openstack-dev] [heat] [savanna] [trove] Place for software configuration

2013-10-31 Thread Alexander Kuznetsov
Hi Heat, Savanna and Trove teams, All this projects have common part related to software configuration management. For creation, an environment user should specify a hardware parameter for vms: choose flavor, decide use cinder or not, configure networks for virtual machines, choose topology fo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Joshua Harlow
In the spirt of openness, yes I do think they are all needed. If they are not supported, then openstack is not open, it is a closed system. We should strive to innovate, not strive to be stuck with the status quo. To me it is a developers decision to pick the right solution, if that solution inv

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2013-10-31 09:05, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-31 06:30:32 -0700: On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: This is a bit of a social norms thread I've been consistently

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Monty Taylor
Sigh. Yay We've added more competing methods of complexity!!! Seriously. We now think that rabbit and zookeeper and mysql are ALL needed? Joshua Harlow wrote: >I'm pretty sure the cats out of the bag. > >https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.t >xt#L29 >

[openstack-dev] [State-Management] Cancel IRC meeting for next 2 weeks

2013-10-31 Thread Joshua Harlow
Hi all, I just wanted to cancel the state-management IRC meeting for the next 2 weeks due to people traveling and the HK summit. Since it won't be as productive as usual I think we can just skip it until after the summit :-) Likely most people will be in #openstack-state-management anyway, fee

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Joshua Harlow
I'm pretty sure the cats out of the bag. https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.t xt#L29 https://kazoo.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ -Josh On 10/31/13 7:43 AM, "Monty Taylor" wrote: > > >On 10/30/2013 10:42 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> So, recently we've had quite

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Friesen
On 10/31/2013 06:04 AM, Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services) wrote: A - there is no test suite at all, adding one in unreasonable B - this thing cannot be tested in this context (e.g. functional tests are defined in a different tree) C - this particular thing is very hard to test >> D - testing t

Re: [openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/31/2013 12:46 PM, John Griffith wrote: >> Issues at hand, for now, are: >> >> 1) Migrating from nova-volume to cinder > > So to be quite honest we never intended to make skips like you > describe. Perhaps that wasn't such a good choice in retrospect. I'm > willing to take a look at putting

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-31 Thread Qing He
Dolph, Thanks! It is good that python example is provided! Qing From: Dolph Mathews [mailto:dolph.math...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:25 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql s

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] changing old migrations is verboten

2013-10-31 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013, Sean Dague wrote: > So there is a series of patches starting with - > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53417/ that go back and radically > change existing migration files. > > This is really a no-no, unless there is a critical bug fix that > absolutely requires it. Changing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-31 Thread Clayton Coleman
- Original Message - > - Original Message - > > Hi Clayton, > > > > Thank you for creating these diagrams. They are a great starting point for > > discussions > > around the git deploy blueprint. > > > > Some questions/comments: > > > > In both the diagrams, what do the arrows i

Re: [openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Jesse Pretorius wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Migrations from Essex to Grizzly/Havana are starting to hit my radar of > responsible tasks and I'm disappointed that beyond this old wiki note [1] Is your disappointment that there isn't a path from Essex --> Grizzly/Hav

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack's OpenPGP Web of Trust

2013-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-10-31 12:24:49 +0100 (+0100), Thierry Carrez wrote: > OK, made it official [...] And: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenPGP_Web_of_Trust/Icehouse_Summit If you add yourself to the table there in the wiki by noon the day before, I'll try to bring a stack of printouts we can use as check

Re: [openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread Denis Makogon
Yes, OS as big product tries to split hierarchy of responsibilities. Currently we have serveral tasks, i suppose. First one is upgrading from one stable release to another. Second one is migrating from one release to another. Currently OpenStack has several deployment projects: TripleO, Fuel (<---

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] changing old migrations is verboten

2013-10-31 Thread Sean Dague
Actually no confusion. :-) Joe Gordon just made me realize that I didn't really explain why we had that policy. That really should have been a follow up to my own post, not yours. Sorry if I made it look like I was arguing with you, which I wasn't.. :-) We're all good. Sean Dague http://dague.ne

[openstack-dev] Migrating to newer full projects from what used to be part of nova

2013-10-31 Thread Jesse Pretorius
Hi everyone, Migrations from Essex to Grizzly/Havana are starting to hit my radar of responsible tasks and I'm disappointed that beyond this old wiki note [1] and a wealth of questions with very few answers [2], there is very little available to support the migrations from what used to be part of

Re: [openstack-dev] distibuted caching system in front of mysql server for openstack transactions

2013-10-31 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Qing He wrote: > In my hard drive-less use case, I need an in-core-db/cache that can be in > the same db cluster with real db (with hard drive) with the same sql api so > that the current openstack code do not need to be changed, instead, just a > pluggin with som

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon / keystone] Marker could not be found?

2013-10-31 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Sebastian Porombka < porom...@uni-paderborn.de> wrote: > Hello Folks. > > I have a problem after grizzly->havana migration where i’m unable to > rescue myself. > When I open the "Admin -> Resource-Usage View i get no results – only a > red error box with the mes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] changing old migrations is verboten

2013-10-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/31/2013 11:56 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/31/2013 11:23 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/31/2013 08:01 AM, Sean Dague wrote: So there is a series of patches starting with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53417/ that go back and radically change existing migration files. This is really a no-n

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] changing old migrations is verboten

2013-10-31 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/31/2013 11:23 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/31/2013 08:01 AM, Sean Dague wrote: So there is a series of patches starting with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53417/ that go back and radically change existing migration files. This is really a no-no, unless there is a critical bug fix that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Thursday meeting follow-up

2013-10-31 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi, I have created two document to discuss SSL termination and L7 Rules at: SSL termination : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qnoJLD1txY5wnjx4k480AtEGCOEtkPMvTzxPo3_DPcs/edit?usp=sharing SSL BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-ssl-termination L7 Rules: https://docs.goog

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-31 Thread Lakshminaraya Renganarayana
-Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS wrote: ->To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List \(not for usage questions\)">>From: Mike Spreitzer/Watson/IBM@IBMUS>Date: 10/30/2013 03:56PM>Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's>Proposal on HOT Software Config>>Lakshminaraya Rengana

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] changing old migrations is verboten

2013-10-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/31/2013 08:01 AM, Sean Dague wrote: So there is a series of patches starting with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53417/ that go back and radically change existing migration files. This is really a no-no, unless there is a critical bug fix that absolutely requires it. Changing past migr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 10/31/2013 11:43 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > Yes. I'm strongly opposed to ZooKeeper finding its way into the already > complex pile of things we use. Monty, is that just because the stack is very complicated now, or something personal against ZK (or Java specifically)? Curious. -S > > _

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 10/30/2013 08:08 PM, Steven Dake wrote: > On 10/30/2013 12:20 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote: >> >> On 10/30/2013 03:10 PM, Steven Dake wrote: >>> I will -2 any patch that adds zookeeper as a dependency to Heat. >> Certainly any distributed locking solution should be plugin based and >> optional. Just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/30/2013 10:42 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > So, recently we've had quite a long thread in gerrit regarding locking > in Heat: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49440/ > > In the patch, there are two distributed lock drivers. One uses SQL, > and suffers from all the problems you might imagin

Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Concurrency & Races in SQL Assignment Backend

2013-10-31 Thread Peter Feiner
Okay Brant, sounds good. I'll start working on the SQL code today. Please bear in mind that I'm going to be on vacation next week, so a patch won't be ready until some time after November 11. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Brant Knudson wrote: > Peter - > > We discussed better use of transacti

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-31 Thread Clayton Coleman
- Original Message - > Hi Clayton, > > Thank you for creating these diagrams. They are a great starting point for > discussions > around the git deploy blueprint. > > Some questions/comments: > > In both the diagrams, what do the arrows indicate? > Data flow, control-flow, or some kind

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
Hi all, As a newbie of the community, I'm not familiar with unittest and how to use it here. I've learned that Jenkins runs tests everytime we submit some code. But how to write the test and what is a 'good test' and a 'bad test'? I saw some commits in gerrit but am unable to say if the written

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] An early peek into the Solum.io website

2013-10-31 Thread Swapnil Kulkarni
Adrian ++. I too believe its a very good initiative started with #Solum & to follow up. Other projects (existing/incubating/future) will definitely have a fruitful benefit following similar approach in the long run, thus benefiting the OpenStack ecosystem :) Best Regards, Swapnil On Thu, Oct 3

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-31 06:30:32 -0700: >> On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: >>> This is a bit of a social norms thread >>> >>> I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while

Re: [openstack-dev] Full schedule for HongKong summit?

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Young
On 10/29/2013 06:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Dina Belova wrote: There is no such mixed calendar. It was made, as far as I remember, because design and summit talks are very different and should be separated. But still, it is not really comfortable. Yes, it's a bit of a trade-off... In the pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Locking and ZooKeeper - a space oddysey

2013-10-31 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 31 окт. 2013 г., at 2:37, Clint Byrum wrote: > My point > is really that we should not care how serialization happens, we should > just express the work-flow, and let the underlying mechanisms distribute > and manage it as it is completed. Sounds reasonable. In this context, you may want t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Separation of concerns for 0.1 git deploy blueprint

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Uri, Yes. We will need to offer a facility for customizing the CD pipeline(s). We have not contemplated all of the possibilities for that yet, so this is something that we will certainly discuss further. We will need to strike the right balance between options and simplicity. We have thought t

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-31 06:30:32 -0700: > On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: > > This is a bit of a social norms thread > > > > I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, > > and I get the occasional push-back. I thin

Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Concurrency & Races in SQL Assignment Backend

2013-10-31 Thread Brant Knudson
Peter - We discussed better use of transactions in irc, but I don't think anyone has had a chance to look at it. This would be a very useful thing to have someone look at. I'm fine with holding off on the oslo.db sessions work until we're sure the code is correct w/r/t multi-processing so that tem

[openstack-dev] [horizon / keystone] Marker could not be found?

2013-10-31 Thread Sebastian Porombka
Hello Folks. I have a problem after grizzly->havana migration where i’m unable to rescue myself. When I open the "Admin -> Resource-Usage View i get no results – only a red error box with the message "Error: Unable to retrieve tenant list.“. Horizon log: [Thu Oct 31 11:39:44 2013] [error] Cre

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] An early peek into the Solum.io website

2013-10-31 Thread Adrian Otto
Joshua, Good question. It's a project specific initiative, rather than an OpenStack Foundation effort. One of the interesting aspects of the OpenStack ecosystem is that each OpenStack Related project can work individually on growing its community, which in turn feeds the OpenStack ecosystem. If

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: > This is a bit of a social norms thread > > I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, > and I get the occasional push-back. I think this falls into a few > broad camps: > > A - there is no test suite at all, a

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Duplicated test effort development

2013-10-31 Thread Lingxian Kong
a huge +1! thanks, chris, noticed the spreadsheet before, and have add some contents I have been working on. I think more people should know that, avoid conflicting. 2013/10/31 Zhu Bo > hi, Chris thanks for your work. > > It's a good way. And how about creating a blue-print and putting these

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/30/2013 10:37 PM, Robert Collins wrote: This is a bit of a social norms thread I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, and I get the occasional push-back. I think this falls into a few broad camps: A - there is no test suite at all, adding one in unreasonab

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for the new service: MagnetoDB, DynamoDB API implementation for OpenStack

2013-10-31 Thread Ilya Sviridov
Hi Thierry, Yes, you are right. AWS SimpleDB and DynamoDB look alike. I think in API implementation itself there are a lot of common parts. But exactly backend makes the difference. Planning to engage Trove for datasource provisioning and management, the key features of MagnetoDB is autoscaling

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
Hi all, >This is a bit of a social norms thread > >I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, and I get >the >occasional push-back. I think this falls into a few broad camps: > >A - there is no test suite at all, adding one in unreasonable B - this thing >cannot >be

[openstack-dev] [nova] changing old migrations is verboten

2013-10-31 Thread Sean Dague
So there is a series of patches starting with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53417/ that go back and radically change existing migration files. This is really a no-no, unless there is a critical bug fix that absolutely requires it. Changing past migrations should be considered with the sa

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack's OpenPGP Web of Trust

2013-10-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 31/10/13 11:06 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> The summit being a bit huge it can be difficult for the PGP-minded to >> cross paths. We could informally designate one of the Design Summit >> breaks (Thursday 10:30am ?) as a keysigning break and encourage people >> interes

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