Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ziad Sawalha
essage- >> From: Ziad Sawalha [mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com] >> Sent: 23 August 2011 20:31 >> To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; >> Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services >> >> Admin and Service start on diff

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ziad Sawalha
quot; and "keystone-control >ALL start"? > >Thanks, > >Ewan. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Ziad Sawalha >> [mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com<mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com>] >> Sent: 23 August 2011 20:24 >> To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottin

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Yuriy Taraday
gt;> -Original Message- > >> From: Ziad Sawalha [mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com] > >> Sent: 23 August 2011 20:24 > >> To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; > >> Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for servi

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 14:53 +, Ziad Sawalha wrote: > Keystone-control has been added to the bin folder to support the more > OpenStack-like commands, but is not yet working. It isn't yet working? I'm using it for the keystone integration functional tests I'm writing for glance, and it seems

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ziad Sawalha
mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com] >> Sent: 23 August 2011 20:24 >> To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; >> Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services >> >> Yes, we'll probably be getting rid of some of those.

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
t: 23 August 2011 20:24 > To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; > Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services > > Yes, we'll probably be getting rid of some of those. They've been > useful > for testing (you can chose one, the oth

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
20:31 > To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; > Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services > > Admin and Service start on different ports (and potentially different > networks). That's a deployment option we are trying to support from t

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ziad Sawalha
need two? (Or maybe just one with a flag that said >"enable admin functions") > >Ewan. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Ziad Sawalha [mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com] >> Sent: 23 August 2011 19:37 >> To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham;

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
ot;enable admin functions") Ewan. > -Original Message- > From: Ziad Sawalha [mailto:ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com] > Sent: 23 August 2011 19:37 > To: Ewan Mellor; Mark Nottingham; > Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services &

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ziad Sawalha
r=citrix@lists.launchpad.net >> [mailto:openstack-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] >> On Behalf Of Ziad Sawalha >> Sent: 16 August 2011 22:17 >> To: Mark Nottingham; >> Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-23 Thread Ewan Mellor
or=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] > On Behalf Of Ziad Sawalha > Sent: 16 August 2011 22:17 > To: Mark Nottingham; > Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services > > Keystone has been assigned TCP port 35357 by IANA. > > We'll mak

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-08-16 Thread Ziad Sawalha
gt;>service catalog serves that purpose. >> c) Also, on the port numbers, I assume they will manifest as universal >>constants and/or a configuration file in a universally (or >>intergalactically ;o)) known place. >> Cheers >> >> Original Message

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-07-12 Thread Ziad Sawalha
:thie...@openstack.org>>, "openstack@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net>" mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: RE: [Openstack] Default ports for services * The first step might be a well known (inside OpenStack) port for keystone and then regis

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread ksankar
uted coordination & service discoveryBTW, Keystone looks interesting, ... need to take a closer lookCheersP.S : If the service catalog becomes a central essential service, we might need to look at scalability and redundancy. Original Message Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default p

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread Ziad Sawalha
We have the service catalog functionality in Keystone which provides discovery. We still need to complete the user story of how a service registers itself; the functionality is available, but not fully documented as a story. The question of ports still remains, though. How do you find Keystone? O

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread Ziad Sawalha
The effort Jay (and others) are doing on standardizing across services could also be helpful here; having a -p --ports command-line and config setting that works with all services would make it easier to stand up a set of services on non-conflicting ports. On 6/25/11 9:11 PM, "Todd Willey" wrote:

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Todd Willey wrote: > I think people will probably deploy in such a way that clients talk to > 80 or 443. But there are a number of ways to get to that outcome, > including specifying it in the server configuration, or running behind > load balancers or other front-end services. Running everything

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Bryan Taylor
Right, but it's not all about deployment, because representations within the API have absolute hrefs embedded within them. On 6/26/11 12:11 PM, "Todd Willey" wrote: >I think people will probably deploy in such a way that clients talk to >80 or 443. But there are a number of ways to get to that

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Todd Willey
I think people will probably deploy in such a way that clients talk to 80 or 443. But there are a number of ways to get to that outcome, including specifying it in the server configuration, or running behind load balancers or other front-end services. Running everything be default on different po

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Jay Pipes
So, I gather you're agreeing with me? :) -jay On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Bryan Taylor wrote: > If we use something other than 80 for http and/or 443 for https, then > clients will have to know magic numbers for the port and firewall > obstacles will annoy them. I don't see HTTP as somethin

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Bryan Taylor
If we use something other than 80 for http and/or 443 for https, then clients will have to know magic numbers for the port and firewall obstacles will annoy them. I don't see HTTP as something we just happen to have chosen. We should prefer convention over configuration, and embrace the conventions

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: > 2011/6/25 Jay Pipes : >> Can you explain why having the *default* port be 80/8080 for HTTP >> services would hinder that? Unless I'm mistaken, spinning up servers >> on different ports is as simple as specifying a set of test config >> files t

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-26 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/6/25 Jay Pipes : > Can you explain why having the *default* port be 80/8080 for HTTP > services would hinder that? Unless I'm mistaken, spinning up servers > on different ports is as simple as specifying a set of test config > files that have ports set for an all-on-one-machine setup? I've he

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-25 Thread Todd Willey
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Todd Willey wrote: >> I'd prefer to keep it convenient to develop and demo on a single >> machine.  I don't think there is any added inconvenience during >> deployment if the ports are not the standard http por

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Todd Willey wrote: > I'd prefer to keep it convenient to develop and demo on a single > machine.  I don't think there is any added inconvenience during > deployment if the ports are not the standard http ports. Can you explain why having the *default* port be 80/

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-24 Thread Todd Willey
I'd prefer to keep it convenient to develop and demo on a single machine. I don't think there is any added inconvenience during deployment if the ports are not the standard http ports. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Hi! > > As I stated on our Skype chat about this the other

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-24 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi! As I stated on our Skype chat about this the other day, I think that the default port for HTTP services should be 80, with 8080 used for administrative endpoints. Unless there's a good reason to have a specific port assigned to what is essentially just an HTTP service, I don't think we should

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-23 Thread ksankar
Original Message Subject: Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services From: Mark Nottingham <m...@mnot.net> Date: Thu, June 23, 2011 10:46 pm To: <ksan...@doubleclix.net> <ksan...@doubleclix.net> Cc: "Ziad Sawalha" <ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com>, "op

Re: [Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-23 Thread ksankar
port numbers, I assume they will manifest as universal constants and/or a configuration file in a universally (or intergalactically ;o)) known place.Cheers Original Message Subject: [Openstack] Default ports for services From: Ziad Sawalha <ziad.sawa...@rackspace.com> Dat

[Openstack] Default ports for services

2011-06-22 Thread Ziad Sawalha
Where's the best place to keep track of default ports for services to avoid conflicts? A wiki page on wiki.openstack.org? We had a discussion while working on Keystone about default ports for OpenStack services (https://github.com/rackspace/keystone/issues/31). We want OpenStack to work 'out-of