> I'm still looking for points of contact for the remaining sections.
Added myself and my co-worker Andre Naehring to "packaging for SUSE"
Bye, Christian.
--
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Linux / Unix Consultant & Developer
Tel.: +49-171-5542175
Mail: bere...@b1-systems.de
B1 Systems GmbH
Osterfeldstraße
> Can't we just have a #openstack-dev to cover them all ?
+1
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Linux / Unix Consultant & Developer
Tel.: +49-171-5542175
Mail: bere...@b1-systems.de
B1 Systems GmbH
Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de
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On May 3, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Ant Messerli wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I wanted to see what everyones opinions were on separating out some of the
> IRC channels. When the project started we decided to keep #openstack as the
> primary channel since the project was small at the time. Over the last yea
What's this forum stuff that is going on? ;). AnywaysI'm not against an
#OpenStack and an #OpenStack-dev/whatever, but being a non-dev, I pick up a ton
of good information just lurking and following conversation. I love eavesdrop
for locating past discussions, and adding more channels does
Hello All:
As per our discussions in Design summit, created 4 Blueprint (BP)
placeholder for Donabe...and also see 6 BPs for Quantum ...wondering
about need for so many # of BPs...
Could we just have two BPs one for Quantum and another for Donabe? That
way most of the discussions and the s
- Original message -
> Is there another free OSS option out there for a forum? All the others I
> know of require money for commercial use etc.
About 2 dozen of very valuable projects yes.
PunBB, SMF and Fudforum pops to my mind, smf being
the most famous, Fudforum being the most fea
- Original message -
> > As for Europe, the
> > consensus in the room was that we don't have too many developers in
> > Europe at this time and almost everyone would need to travel which
> > would increase costs across the community as well as limit the number
> > of developers who could a
If we do create any new IRC channels I would rather see a #openstack-ops or
#openstack-deploy than an #openstack-dev but I do agree that the forum plans
should be finalized first.
--J
Sent from my iPad
On May 3, 2011, at 22:47, Todd Willey wrote:
> I think we should finalize a plan for the
Is there another free OSS option out there for a forum? All the others I
know of require money for commercial use etc.
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-Original message-
From: Daniel Salinas
To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Sent: 2011 May, Wed, 4 03:24:52 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [O
I think we should finalize a plan for the forum before we start
changing IRC. I'd hate to become unresponsive on many fronts at once,
and I think growing just one of those communities will be hard enough.
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Devin Carlen wrote:
> +1 to not splitting everything up.
>
And I think that is exactly the things one should bring to the table when
discussing the pros/cons of a piece of software. I don't have a preference
myself. I don't really know of any webapp beyond security problems. What
is more important to me is who will maintain it and how quickly that app's
I'll add myself to the pool for Xen
From: Vishvananda Ishaya mailto:vishvana...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:08:35 -0700
To: mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net>>
Subject: [Openstack] Lieutenants (Again)
Hey Everyone,
A couple people have stepped up to lead development on different sect
On 05/04/2011 05:42 AM, Daniel Salinas wrote:
> This is awesome!!! Now we can spend 3 weeks debating about forum
> software. I like vbulletin.
>
> On 5/3/11 3:32 PM, "Michael Shuler" wrote:
>
>> On 05/03/2011 02:49 PM, Jordan Rinke wrote:
>>> Ladies and Gentlemen... welcome to the official Ope
There was a lot of talk earlier about Seattle and there seemed to be a fair
amount of interest.
Devin
On May 3, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Stephen Spector wrote:
> Team:
>
> As we all are interested in where the next event is located I thought I would
> send out a recap of the meeting I had last week
At Tue, 03 May 2011 12:19:50 -0700,
Josh Durgin wrote:
>
> On 05/02/2011 01:46 PM, Chuck Thier wrote:
> > This leads to another interesting question. While our reference
> > implementation may not directly expose snapshot functionality, I imagine
> > other storage implementations could want to. I
+1 to not splitting everything up.
On May 3, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Eric Day wrote:
> I would vote for no separation yet, but I understand everyone has
> a different threshold. If we do separate, +1 on #openstack-dev,
> #openstack- seems a bit excessive.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 07:34
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jorge Williams
wrote:
> On May 3, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Eldar Nugaev wrote:
>> Could you please provide information - why we want to see "values"
>> field in JSON and who is responsable for implementation this
>> specification in OS API 1.1?
>>
>
> We use "values" as a
I'm referring to the
http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/developer/openstack-compute-api-1.1/
documentation. There are examples of json responses with "values". I
suppose we should change documentation to the actual state or change
actual state to the documentation.
On Tue, May 3, 2
Hey Everyone,
A couple people have stepped up to lead development on different sections of
the code. Thanks to Brian Waldon and Brian Lamar for listing themselves at
http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaLieutenants
I'm still looking for points of contact for the remaining sections. Even
though alter
Hi Eldar,
There was a good discussion at the summit in regards to how this is going
to be represented. Jay Pipes and Jorge Williams were on point (I think)
for pushing this topic forward. Hopefully one of them can reply here with
their findings.
Pvo
On 5/3/11 6:29 PM, "Eldar Nugaev" wrote:
>
I would vote for no separation yet, but I understand everyone has
a different threshold. If we do separate, +1 on #openstack-dev,
#openstack- seems a bit excessive.
-Eric
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 07:34:30PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote:
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ken Pepple wrote:
> > Do we have
On May 3, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Eldar Nugaev wrote:
> Hi gents.
>
> At this moment we have problem in OS API 1.1. Any JSON response with
> "values" doesn't meet specification.
What specification are you referring to?
> Could you please provide information - why we want to see "values"
> field in J
Team titan will be implementing this, and the "values" array was one of the
discussion points at the conference that didn't come to an immediate
resolution. We will try to put together a reasonable approach that balances
the goals of the "values" attributes as well as the goals of "jsonic" json
Yeah... I misunderstood the process and where we were / some direction I
received and I implemented the forums before it was fully decided. Once I did
that Stephen put out the announcement at my request believing that everything
was set and ready to go.
I totally take the blame for executing so
We discussed the "values" debacle at the design summit last week. The
existence of values is due to the ability of lists in xml to have attributes
and to allow for extensibility. The solution is ugly and we're looking at a
way to fix it. The Rackspace Titan team
(https://launchpad.net/~racksp
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ken Pepple wrote:
> Do we have to break out all the projects into their own development channels
> ?
> Can't we just have a #openstack-dev to cover them all ?
> There are a lot of cross-project discussions (especially between
> nova/glance, but I think NaaS will als
Hi gents.
At this moment we have problem in OS API 1.1. Any JSON response with
"values" doesn't meet specification.
Could you please provide information - why we want to see "values"
field in JSON and who is responsable for implementation this
specification in OS API 1.1?
Also we have broken docu
Agreed, we still have a lot of cross project discussions, especially around
things like auth/etc. Admittedly the specific questions about swift vs. nova
are usually isolated, but I don't think I've found it to be particularly
annoying to have them going on in the shared channel. Splitting out
On May 3, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Ant Messerli wrote:
> #openstack – Help and Getting Started
> #openstack-meeting – Community Meetings
> #openstack-nova – All Nova Development
> #openstack-swift – All Swift Development
> #openstack-glance – All Glance Development
Do we have to break out all the project
Try 'bzr branch' instead of 'pull'.
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:17 PM, andi abes wrote:
> I'm not sure who wins in git vs. bzr ease of use... guess it depends on how
> quickly I get over this error:
>
> $ bzr pull lp:swift/1.3
> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~swift/
Hey all,
I wanted to see what everyones opinions were on separating out some of the IRC
channels. When the project started we decided to keep #openstack as the
primary channel since the project was small at the time. Over the last year
with the project growing, the traffic in the #openstack c
I just brought that up in the release meeting. It is on the agenda for the PPB
to discuss on Thursday.
Vish
On May 3, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Paul Voccio wrote:
> Are these really the "official" openstack forums? I didn't get the
> impression that this was settled. Didn't we bypass some processes he
I'm not sure who wins in git vs. bzr ease of use... guess it depends on how
quickly I get over this error:
$ bzr pull lp:swift/1.3
bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~swift/swift/omega-1.3.0-7/.bzr/branch/lock):
Transport oper
ation not possible: http does not support mkd
Do I have this right? We were just debating this topic this morning and I just
see a blog post by Stephen Spector announcing forums?
Incroyable!
Bernard Golden
bernard.gol...@gmail.com
On May 3, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Daniel Salinas wrote:
> This is awesome!!! Now we can spend 3 weeks debating
Are these really the "official" openstack forums? I didn't get the
impression that this was settled. Didn't we bypass some processes here?
On 5/3/11 2:49 PM, "Jordan Rinke" wrote:
>Ladies and Gentlemen... welcome to the official OpenStack Forums!
>
>http://forums.openstack.org
>
>Work in progres
Team:
As we all are interested in where the next event is located I thought I
would send out a recap of the meeting I had last week at the Design Summit:
> * October 2011 Event We will again run a Conference and Design Summit the
> first week of October which is 2 weeks after the Diablo Release
This is awesome!!! Now we can spend 3 weeks debating about forum
software. I like vbulletin.
On 5/3/11 3:32 PM, "Michael Shuler" wrote:
>On 05/03/2011 02:49 PM, Jordan Rinke wrote:
>> Ladies and Gentlemen... welcome to the official OpenStack Forums!
>>
>> http://forums.openstack.org
>>
>> Wo
+1 - I'm going to write-up a blue print so we can formalize the discussion by
EOW.
The first pass will be based on what we've done with Crowbar (to be Apache 2)
with some idea of an API to generalize discovery.
Lorin: I'd be happy to discuss w/ you in advance so we can compare notes.
Rob Hirsc
+1 on this. It is a very cool feature and I hope we can eventually support it.
Vish
On May 3, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Lorin Hochstein wrote:
> At the Diablo summit, there were several people who expressed interest in
> using OpenStack to do bare-metal provisioning of nodes as an alternative to
> vir
At the Diablo summit, there were several people who expressed interest in using
OpenStack to do bare-metal provisioning of nodes as an alternative to
virtualization. We're using this approach at ISI to support Tilera hardware.
Our implementation is Tilera-specific, but we'd like to build a more
On 05/03/2011 02:49 PM, Jordan Rinke wrote:
> Ladies and Gentlemen... welcome to the official OpenStack Forums!
>
> http://forums.openstack.org
>
> Work in progress so feel free to join and post up any comments about the
> forum etc.
phpBB is a poor choice of forum software, IMO.
--
Michael
Ladies and Gentlemen... welcome to the official OpenStack Forums!
http://forums.openstack.org
Work in progress so feel free to join and post up any comments about the forum
etc.
-Original Message-
From: "Everett Toews"
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 1:22pm
To: "Anne Gentle"
Cc: "Jordan Ri
On 05/02/2011 01:46 PM, Chuck Thier wrote:
This leads to another interesting question. While our reference
implementation may not directly expose snapshot functionality, I imagine
other storage implementations could want to. I'm interested to hear what use
cases others would be interested in wit
Rick, we have set up a top level LP project "futurestack" and moved all of
the associated but not official projects to be children of this. Feel free
to link the new network projects here if you want, it allows us to have a
single LP spot to go to in order to see the activity on these projects.
Jo
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:24, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> A forum is almost always the wrong solution when we talk about a
> developer/technical subject. In my experience it always ended up
> fragmenting the community between developers (who don't read the forums)
> and users (who don't read the rest
I don't really see any reason for production apps to run on anything other than
80/443. In dev mode it is nice to have other ports, but I don't really see a
reason for special ports in production systems.
Vish
On May 3, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 08:09
Hi Alex,
The meeting today is just to discuss Launchpad setup and infrastructure
needs, so we can be ready to hit the ground running. There will be no
technical discussions or decisions made. I hope you can attend and give
your input.
Rick
On 05/03/2011 10:02 AM, Dan Wendlandt wrote:
Hi
On 3 May 2011, at 18:49, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 08:09, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> wrote:
>
> > a) Make SSL only the default (ideally with client cert on as well).
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> > b) Postulate that one port lower there is an optional HTTP port (OFF
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 08:09, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
wrote:
> a) Make SSL only the default (ideally with client cert on as well).
Sounds good to me.
> b) Postulate that one port lower there is an optional HTTP port (OFF, or
> tied to localhost).
The IETF _strongly_ prefers STARTTLS
Regarding your StackExchange questions Anne.
For an Open Source StackExchange-like site OSQA (http://www.osqa.net/) could
be used.
For StackExchange itself it's free as in beer (
http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq).
"How much does Stack Exchange cost?
Creating a Stack Exchange site is free. Us
Anne:
Somebody (several people?) have mentioned OSQA as a free Stack Exchange clone.
We're running it internally at ISI, it works fairly well. It's a django app.
Shapado is another (Ruby-based) Stack Exchange clone.
Lorin
--
Lorin Hochstein, Computer Scientist
USC Information Sciences Institu
Hey all, thanks for asking for my input. :)
A few months ago, I said it's too early. This month, I do sense a need for
community support, based on questions I see on the docs site and the types
of questions in Launchpad Answers.
I think we're getting to a real user community and it would be good
Hello Mike, Tomo:
I invite you to take a look at Livebackup for kvm:
http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Livebackup
This is a feature that I am currently developing. In brief, livebackup
enables full and incremental backups of running VMs.
It has enhancements to qemu that enable it to keep an in-memo
On 05/03/2011 06:39 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On 3 May 2011, at 13:30, Todd Willey wrote:
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
wrote:
On 3 May 2011, at 10:31, Soren Hansen wrote:
2011/5/3 Todd Willey:
In a heavily load-balanced environment you'll probably want to
On 05/03/2011 09:36 AM, Jordan Rinke wrote:
Interesting because Ron very specifically mentioned being able to find
useful and relevant information on the Ubuntu forums without bothering devs
at the beginning of this discussion (which Soren then noted as an excellent
point).
I think there is muc
I believe that should be http://askubuntu.com/
Everett
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Jordan Rinke wrote:
> Interesting because Ron very specifically mentioned being able to find
> useful and relevant information on the Ubuntu forums without bothering devs
> at the beginning of this discussion
Hi Alex,
Great to hear that you're getting resources lined up! Other folks are still
figuring out exactly what resources they will be able to contribute as well,
which is why we're still planning on waiting until 5/10 for the actual
discussion of what dev tasks various people will pick off and st
Interesting because Ron very specifically mentioned being able to find
useful and relevant information on the Ubuntu forums without bothering devs
at the beginning of this discussion (which Soren then noted as an excellent
point).
We don't have an extended answer from Anne yet, but she did vote Y
Jordan Rinke wrote:
> I think a purely QnA site misses the mark a little, that style is great for
> a very specific question (And the OSQnA stuff Everett linked looks great)
> but I think a lot of users are lacking the knowledge to ask a very specific
> question just yet. So maybe it is that we nee
a few comments about a forum:
+ While I agree with Thierry that most end user apps have forums, some
SA/Dev oriented software also have forums.
+ I think there is a need for a place where people can ask simple
questions they would not feel comfortable asking on the ML.
- Forums are very lab
The vmware communities are another good example, they are forum-ish in that
they are sorted by categories with optional tags but have topics with the
ability to mark questions as answered etc.
-Original Message-
From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 20
Linux Kernel:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=linux+kernel+forum 5
million results
Apache: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=apache+forum
23 million results
I am sure at least one or two of those are active forums.
LinuxQuestions.org is a good example
Dan/Rick -
Have we decided if there is a meeting today (5/3)?
From my perspective I prefer a delay until 5/10 as originally
discussed. We are working internally at my company to assign resources
to this effort.
Alex
-Original Message-
From: openstack-bounces+alex=mellanox@list
Jordan Rinke wrote:
> Can anyone name a large successful project that either doesn't have an
> official forum, or that multiple unofficial forums haven't sprung up around?
The Linux Kernel ? Apache HTTPD ? Most projects that have forums are
end-user-oriented, not sysadmin-oriented.
> Also, I look
+1 for the idea of a StackExchange-type site. I tend to find them to be better
resources than old-school forums, but without the barriers to just "dropping by
with a question" that Ron mentioned for mailing lists. (It's hard to get users
to search mailing list archives before reposting a questi
Can anyone name a large successful project that either doesn't have an
official forum, or that multiple unofficial forums haven't sprung up around?
Also, I looked and phpbb has a mod that allows marking topics as solved,
selecting a post as the answer and also giving posts solve ratings so I
think
On 3 May 2011, at 13:30, Todd Willey wrote:
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> wrote:
> >
> > On 3 May 2011, at 10:31, Soren Hansen wrote:
> >
> >> 2011/5/3 Todd Willey :
> >>> In a heavily load-balanced environment you'll probably want to terminate
> >>> SSL before it ge
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
wrote:
>
> On 3 May 2011, at 10:31, Soren Hansen wrote:
>
>> 2011/5/3 Todd Willey :
>>> In a heavily load-balanced environment you'll probably want to terminate
>>> SSL before it gets
>>> proxied to the actual api servers,
>>
>> Why is that? I
On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:19:43 -0700
Michael Barton wrote:
> Oh, and I don't know if keeping track of dirty chunks so backups are
> less work is worth putting an indirection layer on top of volumes.
I think that it depends on volume capacity and the frequency of
snapshot creation.
> It's probably
Thanks for the explanation!
On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:12:22 -0700
Michael Barton wrote:
> What I've been playing with is having a manifest that contains hashes
> of (4mb) chunks for the volume's backups. When a user initiates a new
> backup, dm-snapshot does its thing and gives me a block device.
On 3 May 2011, at 10:31, Soren Hansen wrote:
> 2011/5/3 Todd Willey :
>> In a heavily load-balanced environment you'll probably want to terminate SSL
>> before it gets
>> proxied to the actual api servers,
>
> Why is that? It seems like a win to distribute as much processing as
> possible, incl
Jordan Rinke wrote:
> To make this a bit more democratic I have created a survey. Simply vote for
> your answer and whichever has the most votes wins. (If we had a forum
> already, the poll/vote could have happened there)
>
> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z9VPLSJ
>
> (It is not a unique link, y
Jordan Rinke wrote:
> I had a number of discussions with various people at the summit about
> creating a forum for openstack (forum.openstack.org) and everyone seemed to
> think it was a good idea especially for user support and discussions for
> people who are not likely to use a mailing list.
Hello everyone,
Our first post-design-summit weekly team meeting of the Diablo era will
take place at 21:00 UTC this Tuesday in #openstack-meeting on IRC.
Check out how that time translates for *your* timezone:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20110503T21
See the meeting
2011/5/3 Todd Willey :
> In a heavily load-balanced environment you'll probably want to terminate SSL
>before it gets
> proxied to the actual api servers,
Why is that? It seems like a win to distribute as much processing as
possible, including SSL termination?
--
Soren Hansen | http://li
2011/5/3 Everett Toews :
> What I think the essential features for any user support forum are:
> 1. ability to up vote so the best answers bubble to the top.
> 2. for the original poster to be able pick the answer they used.
In addition to forums, Ubuntu also has a StackExchange.com site. This
giv
2011/5/3 Ron Pedde :
> On 5/2/11 6:10 PM, "Soren Hansen" wrote:
>>I just know from
>>experience that try as I might, I'm not likely to maintain any sort of
>>motivation to participate in forums for any useful amount of time.
>
> And I think that would be the objective of the forums. It doesn't ma
On 05/03/2011 10:29 AM, Jordan Rinke wrote:
> To make this a bit more democratic I have created a survey. Simply vote for
> your answer and whichever has the most votes wins. (If we had a forum
> already, the poll/vote could have happened there)
>
> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z9VPLSJ
>
> (It
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