RE: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-28 Thread David Schwartz
Olaf Gellert: > I would not say so. If I found a CRL which contains the > self signed root certificate I would stop to trust it > immediately. Why? What do you think that CRL means? Specifically, do you think it means the public key was compromised? Do you think it means the issuer of the origin

Re: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-28 Thread Olaf Gellert
Hi all, David Schwartz wrote: >> Can you please elaborate on how would the higher-layer security >> infrastructure go about this? > > Simply put, whatever put the certificate in its trusted position is what is > to remove it. If a CA says to trust a certificate, that CA can say not to. > But if t

Re: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-27 Thread Kyle Hamilton
There is currently no automated protocol for doing this. There is currently an effort at PKIX for a "Trust Anchor Management Protocol", though, which would allow for tools to be made cross-platform. Also, self-signed CAs are basically never checked for expiration. (The 'trust anchor' is technical

RE: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-26 Thread David Schwartz
> Can you please elaborate on how would the higher-layer security > infrastructure go about this? Simply put, whatever put the certificate in its trusted position is what is to remove it. If a CA says to trust a certificate, that CA can say not to. But if the certificate is self-signed, the trust

Re: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-26 Thread PS
Also, does openssl allow a CA to revoked its own self-signed certificate? What happens when during the openssl verify, it finds that the CRL given by CA contains the CA-certificate in the revoked list? On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:28 PM, PS wrote: > Can you please elaborate on how would the higher-

Re: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-26 Thread PS
Can you please elaborate on how would the higher-layer security infrastructure go about this? To me, it just seems impossible to do this and the issue might only be mitigated by spreading awareness by an out-of-band means but not eliminated until ofcourse, the self-signed CA certificate expires. O

Re: revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-26 Thread Kyle Hamilton
A self-signed CA certificate (technically, a "trust anchor") cannot be revoked via CRL. This is assumed to be a function of the higher-layer security infrastructure which led to the trust anchor being trusted in the first place, and is outside the scope of CRL. -Kyle H On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:

revoking a self-signed certificate

2009-01-26 Thread PS
Hi All, Is it possible to revoke a self-signed CA certificate? If yes, then I dont understand why it should be allowed. It does not make sense. The only reason a root CA would want to revoke its own certificate is if its private-key might have been compromised. So, the CA would want to revoke its