Re: RSA patent confusion...

2000-08-23 Thread Allan Borr
> Patent infringement isn't "breaking U.S. law" -- it's up to the > patent holder to seek relief under the law. If you can show a > single case in which the US Patent and Trademark Court granted > any form of relief to a patent holder in the case of an alleged > infringement occurring on the eve

Re: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article...

2000-05-10 Thread EKR
Brian Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why, when the de-facto standard of internet development/protocol work is to > use open (royalty-free) protocols, did the world of SSL seem to standardize > on a patented algorithm such as SSL. I mean SSL is totally out there for > the world to use, but t

RE: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article...

2000-05-10 Thread Brian Snyder
t... -brian > -Original Message- > From: Geoff Thorpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article... > > > Hi there, > > On Wed, 10 May 2000, Vin McLellan wro

Re: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article...

2000-05-10 Thread Pete Chown
Geoff Thorpe wrote: > Which leaves > the mathematical consideration of the multi-prime keys themselves, and > their generation, to be debated (ie. I doubt the patent could rest on an > argument that it is a physical process, or an implementation invention, > because that should bang its head on t

Re: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article...

2000-05-10 Thread Dr Stephen Henson
Brian Snyder wrote: > > > In short, this article only applies to SSL embedded clients, and that RSA is > legal to use to authenticate a signature to a web server (who have paid the > license fee)... in an embedded SSL client, the client doesnt really use RSA > for encryption of data. In anycase

RE: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article...

2000-05-10 Thread Geoff Thorpe
Hi there, On Wed, 10 May 2000, Vin McLellan wrote: > > http://www.cyberlaw.com/rsa.html good read, it got my brain chewing anyway. :-) > The RSA guys, for whom I have been a consultant for many years, got a > bitter laugh out of it. They said, basically, that Flinn had tried out the > s

RE: RSA Patent Issues... interesting article...

2000-05-10 Thread Vin McLellan
> http://www.cyberlaw.com/rsa.html Know that one. The author, Patrick Flinn, was the attorney for Cylink (and Stanford University, I think) in the long RSA/Cylink litigation over the viability of the RSApkc patent. In some corners of the industry, Mr. Flinn is remembered as the f

RE: RSA patent

1999-07-28 Thread Michael
> The technology becomes available, but the copyright still > applies So, anyone can re-write the algorithm, but to use RSA's > code would probably be a violation. It is my understanding that you can have patent protection or copyright protection, but not both. So... I believe that what is

Re: RSA patent

1999-07-28 Thread Vikram Kulkarni
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 11:50:09AM -0300, Juan Carlos Castro y Castro wrote: > Paul Preziosi wrote: > The NSA bullied the patent agencies into accepting a monstrosity called a > "blind patent", in which the NSA creates a technology, files its details to > the patent agency which is not allowed to

Re: RSA patent

1999-07-28 Thread Juan Carlos Castro y Castro
Paul Preziosi wrote: > "Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote: > > > > I think I mis-read your original question. For some reason I read > > "unusable", sorry. Yes, the lapse of a patent means the technology > > becomes available for all to use, freely. This is my understanding. > > The idea behind patents

RE: RSA patent

1999-07-28 Thread Howard Uman
-7791 LET'S GO CAPS! > -Original Message- > From: Roeland M.J. Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:39 PM > To: Richard Levitte; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RSA patent > > > I think I mis-rea

Re: RSA patent

1999-07-28 Thread Mark Borgerding
> The idea behind patents is kind of contract: > > - The government grants a legal protection to the registrant, > for a given time period, > > - In return, the registrant releases it's technology to public > domain at the end of this time period. If memory serves, the technology actually nee

Re: RSA patent

1999-07-27 Thread Paul Preziosi
"Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote: > > I think I mis-read your original question. For some reason I read > "unusable", sorry. Yes, the lapse of a patent means the technology > becomes available for all to use, freely. This is my understanding. The idea behind patents is kind of contract: - The gover

RE: RSA patent

1999-07-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 1:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RSA patent > > > Uhmmm? Are you trying to pull a leg or two? Or have I missed > something about how things work when a patent is no longer valid? > > rmeyer> No, i

RE: RSA patent

1999-07-27 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
Uhmmm? Are you trying to pull a leg or two? Or have I missed something about how things work when a patent is no longer valid? rmeyer> No, it means exactly the opposite. [...] rmeyer> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ray Hodel [...] rmeyer> > I am curious what is going to happen when th

RE: RSA patent

1999-07-27 Thread Eric J. Schwertfeger
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: > No, it means exactly the opposite. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thing you missunderstood. The URL you gave tells us what is needed now, not what will happen after the patent expires, which was the posters question. If RSA labs can enforce a pa

Re: RSA patent

1999-07-27 Thread Ray Hodel
Could you clarify what you mean. I don't fully understand of the legalities regarding patents. I thought that when a patent expires, it is then put into the public domain. Thanks, Ray Hodel "Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote: > > No, it means exactly the opposite. > > > -Original Message- >

RE: RSA patent

1999-07-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
No, it means exactly the opposite. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ray Hodel > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 7:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RSA patent > > > Hello, > > I am curious what is going to happen when the paten