Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-28 Thread Henri Beauchamp
Here is my take on this matter: http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=741&p=3259#p3259 Regards, Henri. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before po

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes: Clarity vs. giving clarifications

2012-02-26 Thread Tateru Nino
Unless the staff member states specifically that it is an official statement on behalf of the company, yes. It's just hearsay without that or without an announcement through proper channels. On 27/02/2012 11:46 AM, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > Hasn't LL said in the past that statements by employee

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes: Clarity vs. giving clarifications (was: opensource-dev Digest, Vol 25, Issue 25)

2012-02-26 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
Hasn't LL said in the past that statements by employees should not be interpreted as representing the opinions of LL itself, specially when it comes to policies and rules and such? On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Boroondas Gupte < slli...@boroon.dasgupta.ch> wrote: > On 02/26/2012 02:08 PM, Jo

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Sythos
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:11:19 +0100 Tillie Ariantho wrote: > On 25.02.2012 19:24, Adeon Writer wrote: > > > It wouldn't disallow derendering, since others on TPV's and others > > on official see it the same way (ie, they both see nothing happen > > at all and it doesn't violate privacy) > > > D

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Tillie Ariantho
On 25.02.2012 19:24, Adeon Writer wrote: > It wouldn't disallow derendering, since others on TPV's and others on > official see it the same way (ie, they both see nothing happen at all and it > doesn't violate privacy) Derendering is essential for photographers, if there is thise newbie blocki

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/25/2012 4:08 AM, Tillie Ariantho wrote: > - What about text based viewers? - What about viewers on mobile > devices? - What about special viewers for disabled people, that may > have quite some different representation of everything? > > - What a

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Adeon Writer
I'm pretty sure RLV doesn't modify the shared experience. Any feature of it that others can see will observe it in the same way as the official viewer. Perhaps I am interpreting this incorrectly? This rule will avoid thing like the original double attachments that main viewer saw incorrectly,

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Marine Kelley
I was wondering the same thing. On 25/02/2012, Skye Menjou wrote: > What I am worrying about is that this will also go against RLV, which is in > wide use, even outside the Adult community.(We use it for some of our > combat systems). > LL, are you really trying to force people to use your client

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Skye Menjou
What I am worrying about is that this will also go against RLV, which is in wide use, even outside the Adult community.(We use it for some of our combat systems). LL, are you really trying to force people to use your client and piss off most of SL userbase? I haven't seen such a terrible move since

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Tillie Ariantho
Hello Oskar, > 2.k You must not provide any feature that alters the shared experience of the > virtual world in > any way not provided by or accessible to users of the latest released Linden > Lab viewer. Ah hm... - What about text based viewers? - What about viewers on mobile devices? - What

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-25 Thread Tillie Ariantho
On 25.02.2012 01:18, Jessica Lyon wrote: > Actually, under 2.k, features like breast physics, secondary attachments, > shared parcel WL etc, would have never been permitted to exist. And this > means that any feature in the future to which a TPV > may conjur up, which effects the shared experien

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-24 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think the general rule is here that if its something like Emerald's multi-attach where it doesn't work or causes artifacts for other viewers, it needs to go through LL, get PO approval and a project for getting effected APIs added or changed, as wel

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-24 Thread Celierra Darling
(I am not a lawyer, but...) >From the text in the blog post, it looks like it's intended to be an anti-fragmentation measure. I don't think it's literally a desire to make the TPV devs wait until the official viewer catches up (and definitely not to make TPV people "develop [features] for the LL

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-24 Thread Jessica Lyon
Actually, under 2.k, features like breast physics, secondary attachments, shared parcel WL etc, would have never been permitted to exist. And this means that any feature in the future to which a TPV may conjur up, which effects the shared experience (Ie. something one user could see but another cou

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-24 Thread Brandon Husbands
Guess its how you interpreted it wheww. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Cinder Roxley wrote: > Yes, you're mistaken. The key phrase there is "alters the shared > experience of the virtual world". A tpv can alter individual user's > experiences, (UI, build tools, controls, graphics enhancements

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-24 Thread Cinder Roxley
Yes, you're mistaken. The key phrase there is "alters the shared experience of the virtual world". A tpv can alter individual user's experiences, (UI, build tools, controls, graphics enhancements) but not the shared experience of the world. IE, exposing information such as the friend online v

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Policy Changes

2012-02-24 Thread Brandon Husbands
Holy... That's a huge policy change. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Nalates Urriah wrote: > Does this new policy essentially eliminate the reason for the existence of > 3rd party viewers: > > 2.k : You must not provide any feature that alters the shared experience > of the virtual world in any