Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-26 Thread Carlo Wood
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:16:22PM -0700, Erik Anderson wrote: > " at the end (this is > ). I'm guessing that it > is > thought that no one would notice these unless they were looking for them. Surely you mean ? Because after a quick look it's clear that is the '0' and a '1', so that my v

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Erik Anderson
Well, looking at the spec that was linked earlier in this thread... When someone is using a TPV that can do OTR (and the user has indicated a willingness to use it), then many(all?) their chats will have " " at the end (this is ). I'm guessing that it is thought that no one would notice these

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Carlo Wood
Nevermind, I should have read the rest of the thread first. Looks like a pretty solid protocol. Does anyone know if it is possible for an arbitrary TPV to start an OTR with another TPV? If so, how? Or is it needed to be recognized by the other viewer as being a viewer that has OTR implemented? Ho

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Carlo Wood
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:59:49PM -0700, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some > third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts third-party > servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that correct? If that is correc

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 5:44 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > The changes we've requested primarily concern the re-establishment of > trust between the Emerald development team, Linden Lab, and the Second > Life resident community. If you believe that yo

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 20:02, Kadah wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/25/2010 3:11 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >>On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >>>Do they get >>> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? >> No. > Good

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 3:11 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >> Do they get >> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? > No. Good to know, Oz. Thanks. Will we get to know what the

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I would expect that it being more popular just puts more eyes on it. On 25/8/2010 19:11, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >> Do they get >> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its p

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: > Do they get > special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? No. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read th

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Aidan Thornton
On 8/25/10, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some > third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts third-party > servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that correct? If so, do these > connections share any informa

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Arrehn Oberlander
Some of the TPVs implement the OTR protocol for encrypted messaging: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/Protocol-v2-3.1.0.html This does not involve 3rd party servers, or disclose information. In fact it's designed not to disclose anything, ___ Policies and

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 1:59 PM, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in > some third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts > third-party servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Robert Martin
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some > third-party viewers? you mean like THAT VIEWERs OTR feature?? 1 its badly broken anyway 2 it does not have a keyserver all keys are current session only (even t