Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-19 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2011-01-18, at 15:58, Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle wrote: > This is not a feature belongs in the Viewer. If there's more data you want > out of llGetEnv(), I'd suggest filing an SVC feature request. "Just wait, next month we'll have someone needing help figuring out why llGetEnv is broken on the la

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-19 Thread Lance Corrimal
I don't think that a "solution" that makes people wear more scripted attachments is a good one, especially since the viewer already HAS the information. make it a popup that is controlled by a debug option which is off by default, and make the content of the popup more useful for people that ac

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-19 Thread Opensource Obscure
On a second though, this solution (paired with the information from "About Second Life") seems good enough to me. Also, simplifying the viewer as a general approach is indeed necessary and reasonable. Opensource Obscure On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 21:30, Twisted Laws wrote: > > Personally I see no

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-19 Thread Stickman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): >> It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to >> put it on a HUD if you care.  We're pulling the feature and >> simplifying the viewer. > > then how about ge

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): > It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to > put it on a HUD if you care. We're pulling the feature and > simplifying the viewer. then how about getting rid of all the extra and superfluous information that the

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Carlo Wood
Delete! On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:22:45AM -0500, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote: > Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet > Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the simulator > version changed when you changed to a new region. > >

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Tateru Nino
t; > CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com <mailto:opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com> > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications > > It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to put it on

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Latif Khalifa
n issues to >> fight over.  :) >> >> >> > From: q...@lindenlab.com >> > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:37:34 -0500 >> > To: liny.od...@phoenixviewer.com >> > CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com >> > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STOR

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Sarah (Esbee) Kuehnle
CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > > > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications > > > > It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to put it > on a HUD if you care. We're pulling the feature and simplifying

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Liny Odell
od...@phoenixviewer.com >> CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications >> >> It's not gonna be a debug setting. The information's available to put it >> on a HUD if you care. We're pulling t

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Latif Khalifa
t i'd rather see them on the chat >>> history and have more detailed.  but i can live without them if the majority >>> really want to see them gone altogether.  for me it helps me during certain >>> testing and stuff to know when ive changed server versions but that's reall

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
p flipping it I would think... > >> > >> ____________________ > >> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800 > >> From: os...@lindenlab.com > >> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator ver

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Stickman
> simplifying the viewer. Is this the answer to my question about the ultimate direction LL is taking for the official client? Stickman ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
t them if the majority >> really want to see them gone altogether. for me it helps me during certain >> testing and stuff to know when ive changed server versions but that's really >> about it. >> >> ____________________ >> From: angel_of_crim...@hotmail.com >> To: miss

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Liny Odell
:53 -0800 > From: os...@lindenlab.com > To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications > > It does have use for people testing server. I'd say make it optional, more > informative, and disabled by default.

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Trilo Byte
ebug console... most people that would > need to turn it on would not likely keep flipping it I would think... > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:32:53 -0800 > From: os...@lindenlab.com > To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Twisted Laws
Personally I see no reason for it and a user could have a simple script they are wearing that triggers on changed, CHANGE_REGION, that tells them the version of the server if they are interested. default { on_rez(integer start_param) { llOwnerSay(llGetRegionName + " " + llGetEn

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Oskar Linden: > It does have use for people testing server. I'd say make it > optional, more informative, and disabled by default. seconded! wrap it in an if(gSavedSettings.getBOOL() ), and make it more detailed with links to the release notes to both server

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kadah
From: missannoto...@yahoo.com <mailto:missannoto...@yahoo.com> > To: q...@lindenlab.com <mailto:q...@lindenlab.com>; > opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > <mailto:opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com> > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulato

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
..@yahoo.com; q...@lindenlab.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:04:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications I would also like to see the toast moved. it can be useful and would be more useful if it had the actual

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Oskar Linden
of_crim...@hotmail.com > To: missannoto...@yahoo.com; q...@lindenlab.com; > opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:04:09 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications > > I would also like to see the toast moved. it can be us

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
hat's really about it. From: angel_of_crim...@hotmail.com To: missannoto...@yahoo.com; q...@lindenlab.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:04:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications I would also like to see the t

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Erin Mallory
: missannoto...@yahoo.com To: q...@lindenlab.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications Doesn't it add some minor overhead to region crossings? I don't care about it. The message does not say what server version you just

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Ann Otoole
Doesn't it add some minor overhead to region crossings? I don't care about it. The message does not say what server version you just entered so it is mostly an annoyance. If I need version info I know where it is. What I would like to see is region rating and a single letter server version c

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 schrieb Stickman: > > on the contrary, i'm trying to port a patch from henri beauchamps > > cool viewer that makes that notification more detailed, as in it > > tells you the version of the sim you entered and the version of > > the sim you left. > > As Lance said, the

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Tateru Nino
Well, connect up the network message system with a small plugin stub in python or something, expose the popup API to it, and I'm sure we can each decide for ourselves what events and messages should and shouldn't generate popups and under what circumstances. Then, perhaps, we could expose a few

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Tateru Nino
Speaking as an unrepresentative sample of... err... one, I find the popup very useful - but *only* in certain defined periods where I am intending that it be an important part of what I'm doing (and it sometimes is). At that point, I *would* like more detail (exactly what version am I arriving

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Stickman
> on the contrary, i'm trying to port a patch from henri beauchamps cool viewer > that makes that notification more detailed, as in it tells you the version of > the sim you entered and the version of the sim you left. As Lance said, the notice as it is right now isn't very useful. If it actually

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Everyone wants more options. Why should this be an option? Just because you're interested in knowing the version number, do you really need a notification of it? What does that give you that checking About Second Life doesn't give you? On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Opensource Obscure wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Can you please explain why you care? Is there a reason why you want a notification? On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011, 16:22:45 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): >> Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have >> Yet Anoth

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Opensource Obscure
I guess most people on this list are personally interested in that notification. Still, I think we're a very non-representative sample of the whole SL userbase - especially with regards to tech details. Off by default, with freedom to choose would be the best; a Debug Setting would probably be goo

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Kent Quirk (Q Linden) Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:23 AM To: OpenSource Mailing List Subject: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet Another Opti

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011, 16:22:45 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden): > Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have > Yet Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the > simulator version changed when you changed to a new region. > > I think we sh

[opensource-dev] STORM-243 - simulator version notifications

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
Hi, folks. I've just commented on STORM-243, which requests that we have Yet Another Option to allow suppression of the toast that tells you the simulator version changed when you changed to a new region. I think we should delete it entirely. Does anyone care to still get that notification, no