Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-20 Thread Morgaine
Dzonatas, first of all, it's important to be clear that VWRAP has not yet written up anything concerning handling of objects or avatar meshes, so this post at most reflects some of the informal discussions that we've been having on the topic. Bear that in mind here. VWRAP is intended to be an int

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 06:00:08PM -0300, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > what if the bug fix includes changes in behavior that for some users is > considered a bug in itself? (like how it happened at first with the > issue of auto-granted permissions permanency being abused, where the > initial propo

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 07:56:39PM +, Morgaine wrote: > If it was possible to add arbitrary extra code and/or make > arbitrary changes without that it gets harder and harder to > keep up with changes in the main viewer, then it would the > call of the open source community as mu

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 what if the bug fix includes changes in behavior that for some users is considered a bug in itself? (like how it happened at first with the issue of auto-granted permissions permanency being abused, where the initial proposal of simply auto-revoking he

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Dzonatas Sol
Morgaine wrote: > As an example, it is quite easy to imagine VWRAP providing transport > for Collada mesh objects that work in Opensim long before they do in SL. Can we clarify this a little about the mesh. Is this the mesh in regards to the avatar or the mesh of objects in the environment itself

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Morgaine
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Carlo Wood wrote: > > If it was possible to add arbitrary extra code and/or make > arbitrary changes without that it gets harder and harder to > keep up with changes in the main viewer, then it would the > call of the open source community as much as that of LL im

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Robert Martin
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Carlo Wood wrote: > In what respect did I miss this? > > Are you implying that it should be possible to add new features > that Linden Lab *disagrees* with? > > If not, and as you say they don't disagree with VWRAP, then I don't > see the issue. VWRAP compatibility

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Carlo Wood
Seem like a good moment to point out that is was ME who made up the name VWRAP :) *proud* *eternal fame* *immortality syndrome* YAY! On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 05:41:53PM +, Morgaine wrote: > I expect that before long, the prefix 'vw' will become as fashionable as 'e' > and now 'i'. ;-) > > M

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Carlo Wood
In what respect did I miss this? Are you implying that it should be possible to add new features that Linden Lab *disagrees* with? If not, and as you say they don't disagree with VWRAP, then I don't see the issue. VWRAP compatibility falls in category 2, it's a new "feature", hardly anyone here w

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Morgaine
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Tateru Nino wrote: > Huh. Curious. I have a client launcher (for SL among other things) called 'vwrap'. I expect that before long, the prefix 'vw' will become as fashionable as 'e' and now 'i'. ;-) Morgaine. === On T

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Tateru Nino
Huh. Curious. I have a client launcher (for SL among other things) called 'vwrap'. On 19/03/2010 4:23 AM, Morgaine wrote: > Carlo, you're missing something very important in your write-up. > > The issue that you haven't covered is that Snowglobe is intended for > interoperation with other worlds a

Re: [opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Morgaine
Carlo, you're missing something very important in your write-up. The issue that you haven't covered is that Snowglobe is intended for interoperation with other worlds as well, not just with SL. Our work in VWRAP has the goal of all

[opensource-dev] Proposal: Howto add a new feature to snowglobe.

2010-03-18 Thread Carlo Wood
Here is some food for thought: -- Question: Who determines what is added to the viewer and what not? I propose (to be decided by Lindens, not others) the following: There are two different categories of things that can be added to the viewer: Category 1: Bug fixes; intended behavior is not as e