Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2013-10-07 12:34 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: After some discussion with both Second Life and Desurium contributors, Linden Lab has produced a draft of a new Contributor License Agreement that we wou

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-08 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2013-10-07 18:50 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: The requested info (snail mail address and private phone number) are simply "excessive in relation for the purpose" (identifying an author: see below). We don't believe that information is excessive for that purpose. You are of course free to disagr

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-08 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2013-10-07 14:52 , Nicky Perian wrote: The original CLA may have same items and I just did not catch that casual verbal / oral conversations unless prefaced with "this is not a contribution" would be considered a contribution. For me, that puts a chill on discussing with any LL employee the

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-08 Thread Gigs
It is customary to include addresses of the parties on contracts in the USA. With only a name and signature, I could always claim it was some other Jason Giglio that agreed to the contract. There aren't many ways to enter a binding contract without risking "outing", since for it to stand up in

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:29:56 -0700, Andromeda Quonset wrote: > Henri: > > I am simply curious and don't want to cause any > argument or additional arguments about the > matter, and I support everyone's rights to privacy. > > I just looked at > http://www.cnil.fr/fileadmin/documents/en/Act78-1

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Andromeda Quonset
At 10:50 AM 10/7/2013, you wrote: >This CA, just like the previous one, violates the contributors' right >to privacy by requesting the contributor's snail mail address and phone >number (!?!?!) and as such, is illegal in France (law "Informatique et >Liberté": http://www.cnil.fr/fileadmin/document

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Darien Caldwell
LL employee the technical feasibility of an > idea that may or may not become a contribution. > > > > -- > *From:* Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) > *To:* opensource-dev > *Sent:* Monday, October 7, 2013 11:34 AM > *Subject:* [opensource-dev]

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Darien Caldwell
Or to put in simpler terms, If you don't want to give LL an idea, then absolutely, do not talk to them about it. Which you would think would be common sense. :) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Op

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Nicky Perian
a that may or may not become a contribution. > > From: Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) >To: opensource-dev >Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 11:34 AM >Subject: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement > > > >As most of y

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:34:45 -0400, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > As most of you probably know, Linden Lab acquired Desura^(TM), a digital > distribution service for PC gamers. > > The code for the Desura client is open source, managed as the Desurium > project on github

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Darien Caldwell
Well, It certainly is interesting. The gist seems to be, LL becomes a full co-owner of the contribution, including owning half of any copyright or patent claims to any submitted contribution. This is sensible, as any contribution becomes a core part of LL's business. I do like that LL now takes up

[opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-07 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
As most of you probably know, Linden Lab acquired Desura^(TM), a digital distribution service for PC gamers. The code for the Desura client is open source, managed as the Desurium project on github . The Desurium project used a different open source license