Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Ricky
How can that be a source of correlation, unless you are using a viewer that has a userbase of one (yourself and your alts)? Even so, the suggestion is on the floor that the transmitted useragent string be readily spoofable across all methods of gathering the info. In this way we can allow legit us

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-05-05, at 18:39, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > How so? The SL client is not a browser, and currently provides a stronger privacy firewall than a browser. This is important, because unlike a browser connection when you are logged in to SL you're broadcasting a strong non-repudiable ide

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 How so? On 5/5/2010 20:36, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2010-05-05, at 16:34, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: >> That would open lots of possibilities > > It would open up all kinds of cans of worms. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-05-05, at 16:34, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > That would open lots of possibilities It would open up all kinds of cans of worms. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read

Re: [opensource-dev] Possible glitch in TPV identification procedure

2010-05-05 Thread Thomas Shikami
Zabb65 schrieb: > Channel name is a persistent saved setting. Meaning if you log in > under a viewer that sets its channel in the saved settings file, but > does not use one of its own(settings file), the normal viewer will > continue to identify itself as that viewer. Until you remove the entry

Re: [opensource-dev] Possible glitch in TPV identification procedure

2010-05-05 Thread Zabb65
Channel name is a persistent saved setting. Meaning if you log in under a viewer that sets its channel in the saved settings file, but does not use one of its own(settings file), the normal viewer will continue to identify itself as that viewer. Until you remove the entry yourself, by either cleari

[opensource-dev] Possible glitch in TPV identification procedure

2010-05-05 Thread Jay Reynolds Freeman
Now this is weird: I have a TPV that I have developed for my own occasional use -- not for distribution. I have identified it according to the procedures outlined in http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Channel_and_Version_Requirements and they seem to work. So far, well and good. I also have a

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 That would open lots of possibilities On 5/5/2010 18:32, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2010-05-05, at 14:57, Bryon Ruxton wrote: >> Can't we just get an additional AGENT_VIEWER flag via llGetAgentInfo? > > Let's not. >

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-05-05, at 14:57, Bryon Ruxton wrote: > Can't we just get an additional AGENT_VIEWER flag via llGetAgentInfo? Let's not. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the poli

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Tateru Nino
HTTP cookies were shared across all accounts using a viewer installation - until recently. It's my understanding that the latest crop of viewer2 viewers keep cookies separate per-account. However unless you're using one of those newest ones, it's possible to track down alt-accounts or hotseat users

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I thought cookies weren't shared between accounts even in the same machine...are you sure they are? On 5/5/2010 17:28, Thomas Shikami wrote: > Bryon Ruxton schrieb: >> Can't we just get an additional AGENT_VIEWER flag via llGetAgentInfo? >> Even if

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Thomas Shikami
Bryon Ruxton schrieb: > Can't we just get an additional AGENT_VIEWER flag via llGetAgentInfo? > Even if not foolproof, it's useful as a factor for legitimate security or > warning tools, as well as for stats gathering for 99% of residents. > It seems like a logical solution to me, instead of having

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Kuraiko Yoshikawa
Am 05.05.2010 21:57, schrieb Bryon Ruxton: > Can't we just get an additional AGENT_VIEWER flag via llGetAgentInfo? > Even if not foolproof, it's useful as a factor for legitimate security or > warning tools, as well as for stats gathering for 99% of residents. > It seems like a logical solution to

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Bryon Ruxton
Can't we just get an additional AGENT_VIEWER flag via llGetAgentInfo? Even if not foolproof, it's useful as a factor for legitimate security or warning tools, as well as for stats gathering for 99% of residents. It seems like a logical solution to me, instead of having to go the http agent route or

[opensource-dev] VC90 Build and recursive dependencies back to msvcr80.dll

2010-05-05 Thread Nicky Perian
I have been able to build and run using VC++ Express 2008 w/boost 1-39 from Robin but, the media_plugin_webkit fails at run time. There are a lot like the following in the build log. I guess it is set for 3 tries. 56>Getting recursive dependencies for file: C:/SL_SVN/trunk/indra/build-VC90/win_c

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Robin Cornelius
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > can the the client loading HTML on a prim be considered the same as the > internal web browser or the rules change in that case? Techinaly there is no "internal" webbrowser, all htm

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 can the the client loading HTML on a prim be considered the same as the internal web browser or the rules change in that case? On 5/5/2010 05:42, Harold Brown wrote: > This question is someone being overly obtuse on purpose. > > The Internal Web Br

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 05/05/2010 10:42 AM, Harold Brown wrote: > This question is someone being overly obtuse Sorry about that. > on purpose. I can assure you that not. While I was aware my question was a bit nitpick-ish, I didn't consider to look at the internal browser as separate entity (which makes sense and sol

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Configurable HTTP user-agent string

2010-05-05 Thread Harold Brown
This question is someone being overly obtuse on purpose. The Internal Web Browser is 1. Not a Third Party Viewer, 2. Nor is it connecting to the Second Life Grid, negating the whole "Spoof" clause question At the most it might connect to an HTTP-Server on a prim. If the Internal Web Browser is