I think Boy Lane's beta suggestion is excellent, because it will also
reduce the possibility of other problems with the meeting.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Boy Lane wrote:
> Yes, the betagrid does not require to clickwrap the new ToS/TPV, for the
> simple
> reason it is a months old snapsho
В сообщении от Суббота 10 апреля 2010 23:53:51 автор a...@skyhighway.com
написал:
> Despite some awfully emotional claims to the contrary, i don't think LL
> has any intention of hunting developers down and sucking the marrow from
> their bones! Really, there's little point unless somebody delibe
i've been watching this TPVP discussion go round 'n round since it got
started and just biting my tongue 'cause i don't "have a dog in the race,"
as they say. That doesn't mean i haven't had an opinion i've wanted to
share, though. So, if you don't mind, i'd like to make a respectful
submission,
I'm not sure what you mean it didn't quite work.
Anyways, I appreciate that Joe wants to gather this Brown-Bag, so we can
talk specifics in words.
Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> a baby can still crawl over the TV remote and turn it on right when
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
a baby can still crawl over the TV remote and turn it on right when a
horror movie is playing, that baby analogy didn't quite work
On 10/4/2010 14:14, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> In case I don't make the Brown Bag, I just wanted to point out th
Thank you Joe
I'd like to chime in and bring my own concerns since I won't make it to the
meeting. My primary concern is about the Viewer Directory and here are my
questions :
- Will registering a TPV to the Viewer Directory become mandatory one day ?
If so, how can we be absolutely certain that
Hi Joe,
In case I don't make the Brown Bag, I just wanted to point out the fact
that simply developers, which includes how Linden Lab has invested
resources to sustain such world, don't share a view with users that
Virtual Reality that Virtual Reality is not just a game. This
realization is ac
On 11/04/2010 1:06 AM, Gareth Nelson wrote:
>> Not that the Lab actually needs anything resembling the TPVP to successfully
>> take legal action against someone making pernicious viewers available or
>> creating them for their own use.
>>
> I can use telnet to break into various TCP-based se
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Daniel wrote:
> The very fact that reasonably intelligent people here on this list,
> which are part of the community the TPV is aimed at, cannot agree what
> it means, is cause to rewrite it for more clarity.
>
> Carlo Wood wrote:
> > You know, this would actual
Sometimes it's useful to take a large parallel jump as a way of exploring an
issue. This one just hit me as a direct parallel (riffing on Gareth's idea
below): Is it possible to hold a web browser manufacturer responsible as a
tool to breach security and steal credit card numbers, perform denial of
> Not that the Lab actually needs anything resembling the TPVP to successfully
> take legal action against someone making pernicious viewers available or
> creating them for their own use.
I can use telnet to break into various TCP-based servers, does that
make the authors of my telnet client liab
The very fact that reasonably intelligent people here on this list,
which are part of the community the TPV is aimed at, cannot agree what
it means, is cause to rewrite it for more clarity.
Carlo Wood wrote:
> You know, this would actually make me feel better if you were a lawyer.
> Even more s
Curious. How many of us got professional legal advice? I did. I know a
couple of you that did likewise. I'd be interested in knowing how many
others. (There'd be no need to clutter things with negative answers -
and it might be more appropriate to reply offlist - since the question
is a work-relate
If you're a developer who is also a user, it'd really be a second-party
viewer wouldn't it?
Technically, isn't the distinction actually between a viewer
/distributor/ (one who makes source code and/or binaries available to
others, whether or not they're /modifying it/) and a user (someone who
uses
Yes, the betagrid does not require to clickwrap the new ToS/TPV, for the
simple
reason it is a months old snapshot of SL. It would suit the purpose of
having an
open and constructive discussion just fine, without forcing anyone to accept
TPV
in the first place.
You may also want to read what Ta
You know, this would actually make me feel better if you were a lawyer.
Even more so, if you were a Linden Lab lawyer. But since (I assume) neither
is the case, this is just your interpretation and I see it differently.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:19:00AM +0200, Dirk Moerenhout wrote:
> > If the fi
+100
Aleric Inglewood
This seems to coincide with my remarks added to
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Robin_Cornelius/tvp_mods
where I point out that the mixture of developer and user just
doesn't work (if only because it requires a *different* definition
of "Third-Pary Viewer"). However, m
If the beta grid (Aditi) does not demand one to accept the TOS
before being able to login, then this is by far the best solution
I've heard so far.
Can someone confirm that logging into the beta grid does NOT
ask one to agree with the new TOS?
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 11:50:24PM +0800, Boy Lane wr
This doesn't cut it, as the whole problem is that open source developers
should NOT have to take any legal liablity. The risk are entirely for
the user.
The goal that we seek is that the TPV policy makes clear that:
1) A developer can have his viewer blocked (and even his account deleted)
if h
Everyone,
I'm a big fan of mailing lists and all of you whom I've spoken with have
answered numerous questions of mine.
So, I wanted to invite you all to a little experiment of mine. I've long
dreamed of a portal just for LSL Scripters that people can go to and get
their answer in a more organiz
In case you're using linux and mutt.
I'm using mutt and have in my .mutt/muttrc the following line:
auto_view text/html
Then I have in ~/.mutt/mailcap the line:
text/html; w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
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