On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Bryon Ruxton wrote:
- Could you please stop putting everything into that sidebar as the only
way to access stuff. You've kept wanting to make this "communicator window "
before into a single un-detachable block. And despite many of use hating it
and a
Hi,
Each tool has its pluses and minuses and we use a variety of them:
- Mailing list: may be the most widely used tool. The problem I see with it
is that it mixes everything: small requests, long discussions, policies,
technicalities, etc... Other FLOSS projects use a variety of lists, breaking
t
Could you please stop putting everything into that sidebar as the only way
to access stuff. You¹ve kept wanting to make this ³communicator window
³ before into a single un-detachable block. And despite many of use hating
it and asking for you to make separate floaters, (or at least give us that
opt
Hi Carlo,
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Carlo Wood wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 05:52:55PM -0700, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote:
> > Long Story
> > I'm pretty much done with all the export script writing now and I'm
> moving to
> > make all that live so that updates from the viewer trunk
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:42 AM, JB Hancroft wrote:
> I'm concerned that there are so many divergent viewer projects, that the
> end-user experience is going to be fractured.
> What happens when I want "this shiny new thing" (available only with the ABC
> viewer), and "that other shiny" (availabl
All interesting ideas, but it would be prudent to include a floater as
an option. Not only will it make things easier on experienced users and
those who don't like the sidebar, it will make things easier for the
devs making versions of Viewer 2.0 for photo-sensitive people to use
without issue.
Good question! There is still a lot of detail left out of these
descriptions, but we are planning on moving the UI in the appearance editor
into the sidebar, along with creating a new outfit editor UI. You will still
see the results of the changes you are making on your avatar in-world in
real time
On 2010-03-22, at 12:45, Nyx Linden wrote:
> 1) A new panel to edit what is stored in your saved outfit without
> creating a new one.
>This will include both an inventory view and a view of your outfit
> itself, so you can drag items from your inventory to your outfit
> without
> having an e
Hi Mike,
I'm already on sl-ux and will keep an eye on it when I have the
time. I'll defer most discussion and decision making to a central
location (probably the forums & wiki), but would be happy to come to a
group meeting if my schedule permits (that's a little late for my
timezone, but n
Nyx, would you be willing to come to the User Experience Interest Group
meeting, Thursdays from 3-4PM at Hippotropolis (
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Hippotropolis/43/104/25 ), or share your
thoughts on the sl-ux mailing list? Jacek Antonelli (copied here) is
the moderator of the UXIG meeting.
+1
Mike
Jesse Barnett wrote:
> Jeez I fail to understand why in the heck LL can not understand this
> simple concept.
>
> Linden devs have introduced bugs before that have allowed content to be
> stolen, no mod scripts to be readable, and inventories worth several
> hundred dollars to vanish
While you are working in this area one killer feature would be to have
a way to create a "base outfit" list colors and then have the program
create copies with each color
(looking at the xml export files this would be just a matter of UUID
patching and flipping 3 fields in the data)
Bonus points
Carlo Wood wrote:
> What is the assertion failure?
>
>
This is the error right after one types in "./snowglobe" or
"./secondlife" to run the startup script:
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 643: _dl_open: Assertion
`_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' fai
What is the assertion failure?
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Nyx, it's excellent news that you're starting this open development
project. Well done!
There's one thing to keep in mind though, so that it doesn't come as a
surprise to anyone at the Lab (no surprise to yourself of course). When
development is open and many community teams are involved, some t
Nyx Linden wrote:
> Some of the features we want to implement:
> 1) A new panel to edit what is stored in your saved outfit without
> creating a new one.
> This will include both an inventory view and a view of your outfit
> itself, so you can drag items from your inventory to your outfit wit
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Nyx Linden wrote:
> Greetings Opensource-dev!
[snip]
> Some of the features we want to implement:
> 1) A new panel to edit what is stored in your saved outfit without
> creating a new one.
> This will include both an inventory view and a view of your outfit
> it
Greetings Opensource-dev!
This tiny robot is going to be working over the next few weeks to
begin working on the next iteration of avatar features, and needs your help!
We're hoping to continue our overhaul of how you manage your appearance.
Since we're shooting for moving towards quarterly
For awhile, I was able to download the Snowglobe binary and run it on my
Debian Lenny system. Now this didn't work with the latest Official
release binary and snowglobe binary.
Actually, it's the included 32 bit libraries themselves that cause a
problem which gives an assertion failure when sta
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
wrote:
> I'm emphatically not a lawyer and I don't speak for our legal team. But:
>
> * Legalese is a specialized language. It's not strictly English, and it's
> not always amenable to "common sense" interpretation. Think of lawyers as
> peop
Policy and license (or else) change aren't retroactive, never
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Il giorno 22/mar/2010, alle ore 16.51, Carlo Wood
ha scritto:
> Um yes... I cannot agree with this TPV (I explicitely don't).
> What we need is it to be either changed, or have a real
> lawyer look at it and
Am Montag, 22. März 2010 16:47:39 schrieb Boroondas Gupte:
>
> Would you still launch that text editor?
>
> Boroondas
...no.
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Um yes... I cannot agree with this TPV (I explicitely don't).
What we need is it to be either changed, or have a real
lawyer look at it and explain the ramifications.
What it says now is pretty clear to me: if I contribute
to some GPL-ed third party viewer and later someone else
uses it to connect
Let's see where this analogy takes us ...
On 03/21/2010 06:24 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote:
> Think of lawyers as people who write code in an underspecified language for a
> buggy compiler, and you begin to understand why legalese is the way it is.
Imagine you're a law student, almost finished
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
wrote:
> The merge to Snowglobe isn't automatic -- it probably requires intelligent
> merging. So if that includes leaving things out, so be it. The right way to
> do it will probably be to undo the changesets so that it doesn't become a
> f
You're damn right it does! I just installed the LTS Beta 1 on my system
yesterday. Had a few quirks, but other than that it worked fine. Not much
difference between Karmic, but I suspect more to come in Beta 2, RC, and
Final.
Jonathan Irvin
Cell: +1-318-426-5253
Email: djfoxys...@gmail.com
On
On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:58 AM, Latif Khalifa wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
> wrote:
>> Hi, all. I've created a draft of our repository strategy for how we will be
>> handling open development branches at LL, and posted an annotated diagram on
>> the wiki.
>>
At this point, our internal branches still contain proprietary libraries and
parts of our server code. We have to have an explicit export process to block
that. We have a team working on "source code splitup" to finish the separation
of our systems into libraries, and when that's finished I beli
On Mar 22, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Boroondas Gupte wrote:
> Hi Q
>
> thanks for illustrating the planned process.
>
> On 03/22/2010 04:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote:
>>
>> Since it's policy we intend to follow, please edit only for clarity. If it
>> needs substantive tweaking, please let us do
Hi Q
thanks for illustrating the planned process.
On 03/22/2010 04:38 AM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) wrote:
> Since it's policy we intend to follow, please edit only for clarity. If it
> needs substantive tweaking, please let us do it.
>
As not everyone who might find that wiki article will be rea
https://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/2010-March/000521.html
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Gareth Nelson wrote:
> You too eh?
> See my correspondence with RMS that I forwarded to the list a while back
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Lance Corrimal
> wrote:
>> Am Sonntag,
You too eh?
See my correspondence with RMS that I forwarded to the list a while back
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Lance Corrimal
wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 21. März 2010 18:24:13 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden):
>
>> If you have legal questions about the implication of
>> documents, you should ask a
Aleric Inglewood wrote:
> It would be totally not-done to then take my code and release it under
> a non-GPL license, most specifically, to release binaries without the
> ability for users to get the source code. That is why I got so upset
To be clear, Linden Lab does still plan to do this. There
*confused* I thought that we were going to use hg, so that
commits made internally can be easilly and frequently
pushed to a public repository. Is that "viewer-public"?
Then why is there is there still a "viewer-external"
using SVN? That kinda defeats the purpose of hg?
I thought, and think, that
Although the text of the TPV policy doesn't mention this, to protect
developers who don't want their viewer to be subject to the unnamed
penalties of said policy, Joe himself has said the following:
"[The TPV policy] only governs viewers that actually do connect to the
SL grid, not those that are
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> Ambroff Linden wrote:
> > I don't know if this is true or not, but regardless, copyright
> > assignment helps Linden enforce the GPL, which is good for everyone.
> > That's why the FSF was also used as an example.
> >
> > -Ambroff
>
That is
Am Montag, 22. März 2010 12:44:57 schrieb Carlo Wood:
> I'd like to see this question answered, too.
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 06:08:58PM +0200, Ryan McDougall wrote:
> > The policy deeply confuses users and developers together, making it
> > appear to me that "users" can place "developers" in v
Am Sonntag, 21. März 2010 18:24:13 schrieb Kent Quirk (Q Linden):
> If you have legal questions about the implication of
> documents, you should ask a lawyer, not a mailing list.
the free software foundation has been notified.
expect comms from their lawyers in the near future.
I'd like to see this question answered, too.
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 06:08:58PM +0200, Ryan McDougall wrote:
> The policy deeply confuses users and developers together, making it
> appear to me that "users" can place "developers" in violation of your
> policy against their will.
>
> Let me explai
Just saw an announcement for ubuntu 10.04...
is it just me or does the colorscheme of SL 2.0 really fit into 10.04's
default desktop color scheme like a foot in a sock?
http://is.gd/aSANa
*grin*
LC
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For a first shot it looks fine. I hope thou in the furture snow-glow
will hang in hg directly from the viewer-public the. Svn branches
between will only make extra work not really needed. But no need to
stress that extra work. A project like snowglow is the most gaining on
a distributed cm
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