Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-27 Thread Kristian Rink
Calum Benson schrieb: > It's not a project in the opensolaris.org sense (perhaps it should > be?), and there's certainly nothing to play with yet. But there are > some Sun folks working on it, and hopefully if I keep nagging them > enough, they'll get around to sharing their ideas/code soon

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-27 Thread Calum Benson
On 26 Jun 2008, at 12:16, Kristian Rink wrote: > Way to go, is there a project like this up and running? Surely can't > wait checking this out... It's not a project in the opensolaris.org sense (perhaps it should be?), and there's certainly nothing to play with yet. But there are some Sun

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Glynn Foster
On 26/06/2008, at 9:49 PM, Mark R. Bowyer wrote: > Hi, > > Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is > completely > new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O) > > I hope that support for OpenSolaris will get a proper, commercial > grade > support structure in t

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Dave Miner
Kristian Rink wrote: > Mark; > > thanks for the clarification on that. :) > > Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: >> Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my >> Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada >> on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to compar

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Mark R. Bowyer
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 11:55 +0100, Matt Harrison wrote: > > and for my previous posts s/svn/snv/g. Just out of interest what does > snv stand for, "sun version"? I always thought it was the svn revision > number. "Solaris NeVada". Nevada has been the internal code name for the next release of So

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Kristian Rink
Calum Benson schrieb: > > the only "killer" thing I'd love to see though > > would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential > > OpenSolaris > > features (/me dreamin' of a "time-machine-like" nautilus integration > > of zfs snapshots... ;) ) > > We're hoping you won't have to drea

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Calum Benson
On 26 Jun 2008, at 09:56, Kristian Rink wrote: > the only "killer" thing I'd love to see though > would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential > OpenSolaris > features (/me dreamin' of a "time-machine-like" nautilus integration > of > zfs snapshots... ;) ) We're hoping you won

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Matt Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugh McIntyre wrote: | Matt Harrison wrote: |> |> Kristian Rink wrote: |> | H, what kind of installation medium did you initially use to |> install |> | OpenSolaris from? IIRC the IPS facility (and thus the pkg command) |> | was/is just included in

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Kristian Rink
Hi Mark; Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: > Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is completely > new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O) sure, no problem. :) That's why I actually consider OpenSolaris worth supporting - it's a project filled with potential and intere

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Mark R. Bowyer
Hi, Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is completely new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O) I hope that support for OpenSolaris will get a proper, commercial grade support structure in the future. I may even be one of the people responsible for supplyin

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Kristian Rink
Hi; Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: [...] > I'm not really in the right bit of Sun to answer that. My understanding > is that Solaris Next will look a lot more like OpenSolaris than it looks > like Solaris 10 right now, though. For instance I believe the packaging > system will be the new pkg, rather

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Mark R. Bowyer
Hi, Kristian Rink wrote: > Mark; > > thanks for the clarification on that. :) > > Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: >> Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my >> Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada >> on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to c

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Kristian Rink
Mark; thanks for the clarification on that. :) Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: > Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my > Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada > on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to compare, but OpenSolaris is so much > n

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Hugh McIntyre
Matt Harrison wrote: > > Kristian Rink wrote: > | H, what kind of installation medium did you initially use to install > | OpenSolaris from? IIRC the IPS facility (and thus the pkg command) > | was/is just included in more recent OpenSolaris builds, especially the > | Indiana TPs and OS 2008.0

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Mark R. Bowyer
Hi, I read that as meaning he had Nevada builds (snv, not svn) - probably the Community or Developer releases, as you say - which are based on the System V pkgadd format, and as you say come on DVD. OpenSolaris as a source idea, similar to Solaris 10 and the earlier commercial releases. The

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Kristian Rink
Matt Harrison schrieb: > This machine was installed from an svn_89 dvd image that I downloaded > from the opensolaris.org site. I've got an svn_91 image here as well, > maybe its included on that? For how I read [1], the IPS facility so far is solely included in the OpenSolaris OS 2008.05 ISOs wh

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Matt Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kristian Rink wrote: | Matt Harrison schrieb: |> I have tried that, unfortunately the pkg command isn't on this system |> and it was installed with the most complete package selection. |> |> This is the problem I've had, everything I can find on google

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Kristian Rink
Matt Harrison schrieb: > I have tried that, unfortunately the pkg command isn't on this system > and it was installed with the most complete package selection. > > This is the problem I've had, everything I can find on google or the > list archives refers me back to the pkg command, which I can't

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-26 Thread Matt Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kristian Rink wrote: | Matt; | |> I'm just wondering what the standard procedure for keeping my system up |> to date it as I've so far been unable to find this info myself. | | Did you try | | pkg refresh --full | pkg image-update -v | | to get that jo

Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-25 Thread Kristian Rink
Matt; > I'm just wondering what the standard procedure for keeping my system up > to date it as I've so far been unable to find this info myself. Did you try pkg refresh --full pkg image-update -v to get that job done? Or isn't that what you want/need? Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * ht

[osol-discuss] updating packages

2008-06-25 Thread Matt Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm running svn_89 and I've been trying to work out how to run updates. I found the updatemanager app, which just tells me there's nothing to update, so I did some googling. Apparently I can just upgrade from the latest disc, well I downloaded the svn_

Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-08-14 Thread Jonathan Groll
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 08:01:02PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I've always wondered if there isn't a way to restore the ability to > >do an upgrade after doing BFU. I don't know all the issues, does anybody > >know why you can no longer do an upgrade? > > It's specifically disabled becau

Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-07-30 Thread Casper . Dik
>I've always wondered if there isn't a way to restore the ability to >do an upgrade after doing BFU. I don't know all the issues, does anybody >know why you can no longer do an upgrade? It's specifically disabled because, among other things, an upgrade would save a copy of all ON files as file~11

Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-07-30 Thread Brian Utterback
I've always wondered if there isn't a way to restore the ability to do an upgrade after doing BFU. I don't know all the issues, does anybody know why you can no longer do an upgrade? Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Jonathan Groll wrote: >> Being relatively new to opensolaris, I downloaded and installed

Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-07-26 Thread James Carlson
Jonathan Groll writes: > The above comment seems to imply that there is a non-BFU way to do > upgrades. Is that so? Yes. > (Perhaps sun online update? For which I assume I > need a subscription?). No subscription required. > I've tried googling and read all the docs I can find, do I have it > c

Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-07-26 Thread Jonathan Groll
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 09:01:25AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > For the majority of the OS (ON is only about 20% of Solaris), you need > to download the new ISO's and do an OS upgrade to them - unfortunately, > if you've used BFU, it breaks your ability to do upgrades. The above comment see

Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-07-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Jonathan Groll wrote: > Being relatively new to opensolaris, I downloaded and installed b65 of > opensolaris and have subsequently successfully updated the core system > to higher build levels (currently on build 68). > > I've also seen that there are JDS consolidations that can be applied > which

[osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates

2007-07-24 Thread Jonathan Groll
Being relatively new to opensolaris, I downloaded and installed b65 of opensolaris and have subsequently successfully updated the core system to higher build levels (currently on build 68). I've also seen that there are JDS consolidations that can be applied which I will do in due course. What do