Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-27 Thread Edward Martinez
On 12/27/10 04:01, Joerg Schilling wrote: A compay that first starts a big effort in making something OpenSource and some time later dies everything to close the source again does not look like a trustworthy partner for collaboration. I think this action will lead many popular opensource

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Nikola M." wrote: > Contributions to Illumos, etc, those that are done in CDDL - but > contributor did not sign contract with Oracle about they owning the > code, stops Oracle from including it in closed source product without > releasing it, but allows them to make product with released code (o

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Edward Martinez wrote: > Now I think when it comes to opensource, Oracle only tries to > exploit it, by finding ways where they can make money of it. with that > in mind, You can make money out of OSS. > i think releasing solaris code is the last thing oracle has in > mind,

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-26 Thread Edward Martinez
On 12/26/10 11:36, Nikola M. wrote: I concur that Illumos/OI development is only possible to grow if noone is waiting on anything from Oracle. Hi, I think we should stick to this mindset to strengthen illumos and illumos based distros, so those projects can be self propelled, and not e

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-26 Thread Nikola M.
On 12/26/10 07:46 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: > Now I think when it comes to opensource, Oracle only tries to > exploit it, by finding ways where they can make money of it. with > that in mind, There is nothing wrong in fully exploiting open source to make money , that is great actually :) >

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-26 Thread Edward Martinez
On 12/25/10 20:13, Nikola M. wrote: On 12/13/10 11:36 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: And that shortly might be called Illumos and OpenIndiana distribution. :) Great for new Oracle customers, without usage restrictions and great for contributing, - exactly what OpenSolaris binary distribution was g

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-26 Thread john kroll
>That is, only providing that Oracle is ready to release ON consolidation code, to its customers and followers, at the times for release and to use it as strong major selling point. You didn't get the memo looks like oracle is commercializing its own zfs and not interested in any non-profit found

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-25 Thread Nikola M.
On 12/13/10 11:36 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: >> probably, after full solaris 11 is out and oracle >> makes millions of it first >> since they are develop it. it will be like when >> oracle needs to wait for red hat to release the >> enterprise sources to develop oracle linux. >> so we need the w

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-13 Thread Edward Martinez
> > Will ORACLE keep its promise to publish the b151 > > codes on the public onnv-gate now after SX11 b151 > is > > released? > > probably, after full solaris 11 is out and oracle > makes millions of it first > since they are develop it. it will be like when > oracle needs to wait for red hat to

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-13 Thread Edward Martinez
> Will ORACLE keep its promise to publish the b151 > codes on the public onnv-gate now after SX11 b151 is > released? probably, after full solaris 11 is out and oracle makes millions of it first since they are develop it. it will be like when oracle needs to wait for red hat to release the ente

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-13 Thread Uros Nedic
First ORACLE will leverage all benefits from b151 since it spent money on development. Uros > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:47:49 -0800 > From: tp...@lbl.gov > To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: [osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151 > > Will ORACLE keep its prom

[osol-discuss] onnv-gate and b151

2010-12-13 Thread Tak Pui Lou
Will ORACLE keep its promise to publish the b151 codes on the public onnv-gate now after SX11 b151 is released? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org