On Jun 19, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
> I would also heartily recommend *against* Ubuntu as a replacement Linux
> server OS. RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian, but Ubuntu is doing all the wrong
> things to take them seriously as a Server OS.
That's because it's meant to be a desktop dis
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dmitry G. Kozhinov
>
> >Knock it off you guys.
>
> >If you want to have legitimate discussion of the merits of different
> >platforms, by all means. But this is stupid. Please
>Knock it off you guys.
>If you want to have legitimate discussion of the merits of different
>platforms, by all means. But this is stupid. Please do jump ship, so you
>won't care about this mailing list anymore.
Oh, what a hostility! Say "Linux", and you're not an IT guy, but totally enemy!
BTW
> > I also recommend Debian for servers, CentOS when
> rpm based distros are
> > preferred; and Linux Mint for the desktop.
>
> I recommend Solaris or OpenSolaris for servers, but
> what do I know?
We use SXCE for two our servers, and they serve our needs. But these servers
are hidden in intrane
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dmitry G. Kozhinov
>
> Would you recommend Fedora?
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Mark
I hope you're right and all of that is true. I dont want to see OpenSolaris
become another orphan OS or another "might have been."
BTW, I use it as a desktop OS, not as a server. There are some things I have to
use Windows 7 for, but most of my day to day computing tasks can be
accomplished wit
On 06/21/10 06:02 AM, HeCSa wrote:
On 06/20/10 12:38 PM, Alexander wrote:
RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
IMHO, it is positioned as desktop or "feature-preview" of RHEL-next.
After living with Ubuntu on laptop for several years, I'm not
satisfied with its stabilit
On 06/20/10 12:38 PM, Alexander wrote:
RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
IMHO, it is positioned as desktop or "feature-preview" of RHEL-next. After
living with Ubuntu on laptop for several years, I'm not satisfied with its stability in
last two release
> >RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
>
> Would you recommend Fedora?
IMHO, it is positioned as desktop or "feature-preview" of RHEL-next. After
living with Ubuntu on laptop for several years, I'm not satisfied with its
stability in last two releases. So, maybe Debian would be more adequate even
Le 19/06/10 18:08, Mark Kaiman a écrit :
I dont think its at all clear that OpenSolaris (or Solaris for that matter!)
has a future under Oracle. They're as bad as Apple. Secretive. Uncommunicative.
Leaving customers in the dark.
Time to jump ship to Ubuntu?
Time to provide something else
>RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
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On 6/19/2010 9:08 AM, Mark Kaiman wrote:
I dont think its at all clear that OpenSolaris (or Solaris for that matter!)
has a future under Oracle. They're as bad as Apple. Secretive. Uncommunicative.
Leaving customers in the dark.
Time to jump ship to Ubuntu?
It's been made *very* clear th
Go ahead!
I would never go to Ubuntu unless I have no other options.
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I dont think its at all clear that OpenSolaris (or Solaris for that matter!)
has a future under Oracle. They're as bad as Apple. Secretive. Uncommunicative.
Leaving customers in the dark.
Time to jump ship to Ubuntu?
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On 06/08/10 13:31, Jason King wrote:
> A fast-track case is describing more the review/approval process than
> how fast it's being putback. I'm sure there are many examples of
> fast-tracks that weren't integrated for many months (if not longer)
> from when they were filed.
>
Sometimes never. I
I have no worries if OpenSolaris and Solaris will have a future under Oracle.
It's clear that both of them will.
I was merely contributing information on how "My Oracle Support" and "My Oracle
Support Community" websites show OpenSolaris and Solaris. Websites which I've
only gained access to th
ble Oracle
engineers willing to chat and help - or grab yourself an Oracle Account Manager
with an Etch-A-Sketch.
Shake often,
~ Ken Mays
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
> From: Giovanni Tirloni
> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Sun Software Product Map- opensolaris not included
&
"My Oracle Support" lists OpenSolaris and Solaris products.
"My Oracle Support Community" only lists Solaris under "Oracle Sun
Technologies".
They are probably not making a distinction between Solaris (product) and the
OpenSolaris binary distribution (product).
As far as OpenSolaris.org (the o
Trying to say that it's someone else's fault that you find implausible and
prejudicial interpretations of news items to post here on a nearly daily basis
is another way of saying that you consider yourself a well-intentioned troll,
flippant disinterest in facts or prospects for genuinely decisiv
> Looking through
> http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/ there
> appear to a large number of items which are being
> fast tracked. Is Oracle pushing for the next release
> of OpenSolaris to include more updates before release?
they may? I do hope a release comes out of this. but one thin
A fast-track case is describing more the review/approval process than
how fast it's being putback. I'm sure there are many examples of
fast-tracks that weren't integrated for many months (if not longer)
from when they were filed.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM, russell wrote:
> Looking through
Opensolaris next is frozen, it doesn't matter how many fasttracks were approved.
And perhaps, those fasttracks were actually fasttracks to begin with...
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:05 PM, russell wrote:
> Looking through http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/ there appear
> to a large numbe
Looking through http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2010/ there appear to
a large number of items which are being fast tracked. Is Oracle pushing for the
next release of OpenSolaris to include more updates before release?
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> Come on, Chicken Little, "probably"? Are all things
> that you are otherwise pre-disposed to believe
> probable? There are no announced details on numbers,
> but the Register seems to think this is about
> operational staff in Europe and Asia (not that I want
> to promote their authority, but to
Come on, Chicken Little, "probably"? Are all things that you are otherwise
pre-disposed to believe probable? There are no announced details on numbers,
but the Register seems to think this is about operational staff in Europe and
Asia (not that I want to promote their authority, but to the exten
> On 08.06.2010 08:53, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
> >>> And the FUD continues...
> >>>
> >>> Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the
> >> OP
> >>> pointed out...:-D
> >>
> >>
> >> where is it on this list without havig to click on
> >> any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have
> to
> >
> If you want to spread fear about oracle &
> opensolaris, find something
> concrete you can talk about instead. Like "They just
> laid off half the
> development team" or you know ... something worth
> while.
>
>
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On 08.06.2010 08:53, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
>>> And the FUD continues...
>>>
>>> Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the
>> OP
>>> pointed out...:-D
>>
>>
>> where is it on this list without havig to click on
>> any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have to
>> click on anything
> > > And the FUD continues...
> > >
> > > Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as
> the
> > OP
> > > pointed out...:-D
> >
> >
> > where is it on this list without havig to click on
> > any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have
> to
> > click on anything else to find openoffice.org
> > And the FUD continues...
> >
> > Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the
> OP
> > pointed out...:-D
>
>
> where is it on this list without havig to click on
> any thing else like openoffice.org, i don't have to
> click on anything else to find openoffice.org:
Give it up, will you?
> And the FUD continues...
>
> Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the OP
> pointed out...:-D
where is it on this list without havig to click on any thing else like
openoffice.org, i don't have to click on anything else to find openoffice.org:
Sun Java Communications Suite Oracle
On 07/06/2010 21:55, John Plocher wrote:
> The obvious 3rd choice is that the reasons for the delays are known,
> but Oracle forbids its employees from publicly commenting about the
> details of any "yet to be released" products, under pain of discipline and
> potential employment termination.
>
>
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:
> Is the reason a secret, or no one simply knows the answer?
>
>
The obvious 3rd choice is that the reasons for the delays are known, but
Oracle forbids its employees from publicly commenting about the details of
any "yet to be released" produ
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> You'd prefer the strong statement of rushing out a buggy, incomplete release
> instead of getting it right? Image is more important than functionality and
> usability?
This is an normal reason for release delay. But why can't development builds be
published as usual with
And the FUD continues...
Opensolaris is on the product map for sure as the OP pointed out...:-D
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> Edward Martinez wrote:
> > But they sure went to all the trouble to make a
> distinction between " oracle open office" and
> openoffice by also adding openoffice.org to the
> list. they could of just added a openoffice.org
> link to "oracle open office" page, but decided not
> to.
> > manange
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Martinez
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Use Ctrl-F and type in "solaris" you'll see it about
> > 2/3 the way down.
> >
> > Solaris is listed, and if you click that link,
> > opensola
> Le 08/06/10 00:04, Edward Martinez a écrit :
> > it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former
> software Oracle deems important, OpenSolaris is not
> included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql
> are
> >
> >
> http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.h
> tml
> >
> But if yo
> >
> >
> > it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former
> software Oracle deems
> > important, OpenSolaris is not included but
> > virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
> >
> >
> http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.h
> tml
>
> LOL
>
> Use Ctrl-F and type in "solaris" you'
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Martinez
>
> it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems
> important, OpenSolaris is not included but
> virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
>
Edward Martinez wrote:
> But they sure went to all the trouble to make a distinction between " oracle
> open office" and openoffice by also adding openoffice.org to the list. they
> could of just added a openoffice.org link to "oracle open office" page, but
> decided not to.
> manangement is
> On 6/7/2010 3:04 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:
> > it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former
> software Oracle deems important, OpenSolaris is not
> included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql
> are
> >
> >
> http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.h
> tml
> >
> >the foll
Le 08/06/10 00:04, Edward Martinez a écrit :
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems important,
OpenSolaris is not included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html
But if you go to the Solaris webpage
>
> If you follow one link:
>
> Operating Systems
> Sun Solaris Oracle Solaris
>
> Clicking on Oracle Solaris
>
> href="http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storag
> e/solaris/index.html">http://www.oracle.com/us/product
> s/servers-storage/solaris/index.html
>
>
>
> You'll see lis
On 6/7/2010 3:04 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems important,
OpenSolaris is not included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html
the following open source software,e
If you follow one link:
Operating Systems
Sun Solaris Oracle Solaris
Clicking on Oracle Solaris
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/index.html
You'll see listed
ORACLE SOLARIS PRODUCTS
* Oracle Solaris * OpenSolaris
So you proved Opensolaris is aliv
it appears this is the lsit of SUN's former software Oracle deems important,
OpenSolaris is not included but virtualbox,openoffice,netbeans, mysql are
http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562.html
the following open source software,execpt for opensolaris have already
received so
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