Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Criveti Mihai wrote: Also, your FAQ: http://developer.opensound.com/opensource_oss/licensing.html is very unclear in terms of licensing (CDDL 1.0 for operating systems that have their full source code available under the CDDL or BSD licenses.). That certainly does not include Solaris nor OpenS

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-14 Thread Criveti Mihai
It may be too late now, but I was kind of hoping you'd reconsider an MIT or BSD license. The way I see it, integrating OSS into the BSD projects (be it FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, DragonFlyBSD of even MirOS) would have been a great chance at recruiting good developers. And none of the BSD project

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-14 Thread Shawn Walker
On 14/06/07, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on SPARC, where it may need a bit more work? I'd _really_ like to be able to use it so as to get more (OSS-aware) audio and MIDI apps, but for me that would require: * legacy /dev/audio and /dev/audioctl support to work (so I can use

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Well, I see that the code is out there: http://developer.opensound.com/sources/ Thank you! Now, if anyone starts working on it for Solaris, would they _please_ post, blog, or otherwise share whatever they learn in the process? Especially wrt effective problem reporting, troubleshooting, etc? A

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
> After much deliberation - we're going with CDDL for > BSD. I don't know why OpenBSD can't work with CDDL > since FreeBSD and NetBSD can. > > > regards > Dev Mazumdar Hello; I suggested the CDDL for the BSDs too so I won't hide I like this decision very much. Thank you! That said, I wanted

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-13 Thread Dev Mazumdar
Shawn Walker wrote: On 12/06/07, Brendan O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It doesn't appear that OpenBSD's problem is political in nature. http://openbsd.org/policy.html The important section to this discussion would be the one on the GPL and copyleft; they don't like it. They would be will

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/06/07, Brendan O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it's my understanding that the OpenBSD folk want to have as many > > people using their code as possible, so they need as-free-as-possible > > code. Copyleft locks down certain commercial

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>The most pathetic one I've seen is complaints about the >choice-of-venue clause where some people believe the author of the >software apparently deserves less protection than the user even though >the author is the one that created the valuable item they're using in >the first place. Another mis

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/06/07, Brendan O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, it's my understanding that the OpenBSD folk want to have as many people using their code as possible, so they need as-free-as-possible code. Copyleft locks down certain commercial uses of it, so it doesn't support that goal; it's more

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Brendan O'Connor
Well, it's my understanding that the OpenBSD folk want to have as many people using their code as possible, so they need as-free-as-possible code. Copyleft locks down certain commercial uses of it, so it doesn't support that goal; it's more than mere handwaving to them, it's part of their philo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/06/07, Dev Mazumdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: > On 12/06/07, Brendan O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It doesn't appear that OpenBSD's problem is political in nature. >> >> http://openbsd.org/policy.html >> >> The important section to this discussion would be the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/06/07, Brendan O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It doesn't appear that OpenBSD's problem is political in nature. http://openbsd.org/policy.html The important section to this discussion would be the one on the GPL and copyleft; they don't like it. They would be willing to consider it fo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Brendan O'Connor
It doesn't appear that OpenBSD's problem is political in nature. http://openbsd.org/policy.html The important section to this discussion would be the one on the GPL and copyleft; they don't like it. They would be willing to consider it for non-core things as long as it's separable-- so that Op

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Ché Kristo
This is great! Hopefully this will bring back people in the Linux camp who have shifted to ALSA; which has all the marks of a proprietary solution except it's under the GPL ;) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >On 11/06/07, Dev Mazumdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> After much deliberation - we're going with CDDL for BSD. I don't know why > >> OpenBSD can't work wit > h CDDL since FreeBSD and NetBSD can. > >> > > > >The only complaint I've ever seen is about header files

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>On 11/06/07, Dev Mazumdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After much deliberation - we're going with CDDL for BSD. I don't know why >> OpenBSD can't work wit h CDDL since FreeBSD and NetBSD can. >> > >The only complaint I've ever seen is about header files not being able >to be included by default

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-11 Thread Shawn Walker
On 11/06/07, Dev Mazumdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After much deliberation - we're going with CDDL for BSD. I don't know why OpenBSD can't work with CDDL since FreeBSD and NetBSD can. The only complaint I've ever seen is about header files not being able to be included by default in the ker

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-11 Thread Ian Collins
Dev Mazumdar wrote: > After much deliberation - we're going with CDDL for BSD. I don't know why > OpenBSD can't work with CDDL since FreeBSD and NetBSD can. > > Good move, the more useful code released under CDDL the better. Ian ___ opensolaris-disc

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-11 Thread Dev Mazumdar
After much deliberation - we're going with CDDL for BSD. I don't know why OpenBSD can't work with CDDL since FreeBSD and NetBSD can. regards Dev Mazumdar This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-dis

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-10 Thread Rainer Wittmaack
> The main thing is that we want people to be > comfortable contributing patches and code and not > feel like their work is being misappropriated. I don't think that will be much of a problem even if OSS is released under a BSD/MIT style licence. The advantage of choosing a BSD/MIT style licen

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I'm looking at the flip side, hoping that this will be an opportunity to improve support on the SPARC side (since OSS opens up the possibility of more easily porting Linux audio and eventually MIDI apps). Right now, although the OSS drivers exist for SPARC, there are a number of devices they don't

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-08 Thread Lars Tunkrans
Dev Mazumdar wrote: > The rumors are true, we're planning on open sourcing Open Sound (on June > 14th). We will be offering the source code under CDDL to Solaris and GPLv2 > for Linux BSD, OpenServer etc +1 Wow , thanks alot , OSS is really the only product out there that supports a larg

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-08 Thread Ian Collins
Edd wrote: > I back up the idea of releasing OSS (and ZFS while we are at it), into > something that BSD's can import into thier base distribution. > > I work a lot with OpenBSD, and I am pretty sure that they will not be > looking to import OSS because of licence restrictions (same as ZFS). > >

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Try here: http://manuals.opensound.com/developer/ This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-08 Thread Edd
I back up the idea of releasing OSS (and ZFS while we are at it), into something that BSD's can import into thier base distribution. I work a lot with OpenBSD, and I am pretty sure that they will not be looking to import OSS because of licence restrictions (same as ZFS). Shame... This mess

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ugh.. I meant the CDDL... FreeBSD can include CDDL'd code (like ZFS) but GPL'd or even LGPL causes a lot of trouble. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Great news! Standing from my FreeBSD user point of view... I would *really* prefer the SCSL over the GPL. Thanks so much for this! Pedro. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-07 Thread Dev Mazumdar
> I hope this isn't going to start some licensing war, > but is there going to be a BSD / MIT licensed > version? I'd really like to see this merged in (some) > of the BSDs (OpenBSD for example won't insert GPL > code in the base). It might not see much enthusiasm > from the BSD community at large

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-07 Thread James Carlson
Criveti Mihai writes: > I hope this isn't going to start some licensing war, but is there going to be > a BSD / MIT licensed version? I'd really like to see this merged in (some) of > the BSDs (OpenBSD for example won't insert GPL code in the base). It might > not see much enthusiasm from the BS

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-07 Thread Criveti Mihai
I hope this isn't going to start some licensing war, but is there going to be a BSD / MIT licensed version? I'd really like to see this merged in (some) of the BSDs (OpenBSD for example won't insert GPL code in the base). It might not see much enthusiasm from the BSD community at large otherwise

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-07 Thread Dev Mazumdar
Thanks for the warm reception to Open Sound. We really are looking forward to working with the community and getting the community to start looking at audio on Solaris in a serious way. Best regards Dev This message posted from opensolaris.org _

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Open Sound System

2007-06-06 Thread Richard Elling
Awesome news! I've really enjoyed the ease with which OpenSound works on my boxes. Thanks 4Front! -- richard This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org