[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs Linux

2006-09-21 Thread De Togni Giacomo
My thread wants to be of informative character.Every added comment about the article is considered superfluous.Thank Mr. Hoffmann for your timely advise. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discus

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-31 Thread Rich Teer
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote: > down anytime soon. I feel that Rich Teer would be hunkering into his > chair and saying to himself "ha, Dennis has another opinion breaking > out of the gates, this will be good!" You know me too well, my friend! When Dennis writes tomes like this, wh

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-31 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 7/31/05, Shawn Leard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been involved with Linux since it was first available as a development > only > release. This length of time predates Solaris and extends back into the SunOS > days > so I feel I am in a position to offer good feedback. It is early

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-30 Thread Shawn Leard
I have been involved with Linux since it was first available as a development only release. This length of time predates Solaris and extends back into the SunOS days, so I feel I am in a position to offer good feedback. Solaris x86 never really caught on because few commercial packages were offe

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-19 Thread fabian . otto
* Ferdinand O. Tempel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050708 10:50]: > Real admins just change their account to use their preferred shell, > and specifically define which shell to use on the very first line of > their scripts (the famous shebang). An admin which _assumes_ a certain > environment instead of ex

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-19 Thread Krister Joas
On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:07 PM, UNIX admin wrote: Am I the only one that doesn't like the --something-or-other options of GNU related software? Please don't do this to Solaris! No, you're not the only one. --options are completely uneccessary and serve no purpose. I sincerely hope such perver

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-18 Thread fabian . otto
* Ferdinand O. Tempel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050708 10:50]: > Real admins just change their account to use their preferred shell, > and specifically define which shell to use on the very first line of > their scripts (the famous shebang). An admin which _assumes_ a certain > environment instead of ex

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-18 Thread UNIX admin
> Real admins just change their account to use their > preferred shell, and specifically define which shell > to use on the very first line of their scripts (the > famous shebang). No. Real admins check if the shell they want to run exists, and if it does, do the following upon logging into a Sol

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-15 Thread Dan Mick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well on powerfull aspect of solaris command recall using the vi is the ability to search and exe cute a command which is e.g. 20 in the history list with a simple "/", while in linux bash you have to hit the up arrow 20 times. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-15 Thread Casper . Dik
>George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well on powerfull aspect of solaris command recall using the vi is the >> ability to search and exe cute a command which is e.g. 20 in the history list with a simple "/", while in linux bash you have to hit the up arrow 20 times. >> I think this makes the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/15/05, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well on powerfull aspect of solaris command recall using the vi is the > > ability to search and execute a command which is e.g. 20 in the history > > list with a simple "/", while in linux bash you have

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well on powerfull aspect of solaris command recall using the vi is the > ability to search and execute a command which is e.g. 20 in the history list > with a simple "/", while in linux bash you have to hit the up arrow 20 times. > I think this makes the speed

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-15 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/15/05, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well on powerfull aspect of solaris command recall using the vi is the > ability to search and execute a command which is e.g. 20 in the history list > with a simple "/", while in linux bash you have to hit the up arrow 20 times. > I think this make

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-15 Thread George
Well on powerfull aspect of solaris command recall using the vi is the ability to search and execute a command which is e.g. 20 in the history list with a simple "/", while in linux bash you have to hit the up arrow 20 times. I think this makes the speed difference. Setting up the command recall

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-12 Thread Calum Benson
On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 19:47 -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: > One of the most exciting aspects of OpenSolaris is that, if you have > been following Sun's Blogs, many Sun's developers are triple-booting > their Ferrari notebooks with WinXP, Solaris, and Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the > hippest Linu

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-11 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute
Robert Escue wrote: And there are a number of people still spreading the "slowaris" FUD around as if it is a matter of fact (which it isn't). Depending on what you are doing, the characterizations of Solaris_86 as "Slowaris", or more particularly, "slOLDwaris", have a lot of truth and defin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-10 Thread James Lick
Robert Escue wrote: I would be careful here, because in the 12 years I have worked with Sun products I have never heard the term "slowaris" used by any system administrator I have worked with. I have read it a number of times and Googling the term produces some interesting results (mostly from

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-10 Thread Robert Escue
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Robert Escue wrote: And there are a number of people still spreading the "slowaris" FUD around as if it is a matter of fact (which it isn't). Depending on what you are doing, the characterizations of Solaris_86 as "Slowaris", or more particularly, "slOLDwaris",

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-09 Thread Robert Escue
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I read all the posts. For someone who is very interested in exploring migrating from Linux to Solaris, I am very pleased to see that most of the posts discussed the "problems" of Solaris. I think those posts have given me a much better view of the road that may lie ahe

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-09 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I read all the posts. For someone who is very interested in exploring migrating from Linux to Solaris, I am very pleased to see that most of the posts discussed the "problems" of Solaris. I think those posts have given me a much better view of the road that may lie ahead. So far, it is actual

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-08 Thread Ferdinand O. Tempel
Funny how one camp goes in a frenzy over commandline editing in an *interactive* shell while the other camp defends those choices by referring to backwards compatibility for scripts. Real admins just change their account to use their preferred shell, and specifically define which shell to use

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Albertson, Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, in Solaris, Sun has stuck with good old Bourne Shell for the default > root shell. For users, the shell is up to the administrator. The bells and > whistles you are talking about in Linux come from them using BASH (Bourne > Again Shell) by

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Gerhard S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One technical difference is that cursor keys and command line editing and > completion generally works out of the box in Linux and it generally doesn't > in Solaris. I hope OpenSolaris will finally fix that usability issue so that > it can lose that "80

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>Yes, in Solaris, Sun has stuck with good old Bourne Shell for the def= >ault root shell. For users, the shell is up to the administrator. T= >he bells and whistles you are talking about in Linux come from them u= >sing BASH (Bourne Again Shell) by default. As of Solaris 10 (or mayb= >e 9) BASH

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>One technical difference is that cursor keys and command line editing and >completion generally wor ks out of the box in Linux and it generally doesn't in Solaris. I hope OpenSolaris will finally fix that usability issue so that it can lose that "80ies feeling" >and be more user friendly. > >C

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-07 Thread Albertson, Brett
-8449 FAX: 919-379-8100 Solaris Core, Enterprise, E10K, F15K certified. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard S. Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:51 AM To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-07 Thread Gerhard S.
One technical difference is that cursor keys and command line editing and completion generally works out of the box in Linux and it generally doesn't in Solaris. I hope OpenSolaris will finally fix that usability issue so that it can lose that "80ies feeling" and be more user friendly. Changing

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Yes, technical issues. What else should we be interested? Having gone through most of the variants of Linux, it seems me that the Fedora/RHEL combo is an excellent development model that can be followed by OpenSolaris/Solaris. Discussions on the technical merits of OpenSolaris/Solaris vis-a