> I need to know exactly when the snapshot gets committed to the disk so I can
> backup my disk.
You access your disk (for backup purpose) via operating system. The OS will
show you the disk in the logical state in which it got after all write
operations, regardless of whether they were physica
snapshot-based, and new data *was* written to
disk, but changes were not committed, and new boot environment was not created
(process hung), and thus you see just your previous boot environment or
snapshot, and not see new data. ZFS preserves you from failed installations.
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>I was running 3.x version of Vbox
Have you tried to create a new virtual machine in the latest version of
VirtualBox rather than trying to run the buggy instance of older version VM?
This will require to install/configure OpenSolaris though, but this should not
be so hard to do.
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The info is at
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Everything should be downloadable from there for replay.
About minimizing zones - they said that they are aggressively working to make
zones to consume much less resources.
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Hi all,
I expected the event would be more like "live TV show", rather than audio only
and static slides...
Almost nothing about S11 release date...
Got some useful information though about what they are doing. Minimizing zones
for example.
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:))) It was 06.06.2006 when Apple transitioned to Intel processors, am I wrong?
If seriously, November is too far date IMHO. Let's see what Oracle will present
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>I expect this will be resolved in a build or two
But there are no new builds for OpenSolaris... Are you talking about Sol 11 or
OpenIndiana?
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I think the only noticeable limitation with 32-bit processor is amount of RAM
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> I think that Solaris has a lot of unique and useful security features
> including RBAC, zones, Trusted Solaris Extensions, and much more
> useful audit features than Linux provides. I think RBAC/pfexec is a
> lot more secure than using sudo or PolicyKit, for example.
Thanks Brian. I knew that I
ana project is an attempt to continue OpenSolaris development
independently of Oracle - see http://openindiana.org/ .
There are other OpenSolaris-based distributions, as Erik has mentioned. I would
add this link for them: http://www.genunix.org/ .
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suitable
for a server.
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Windows + virtual machine + OpenSolaris would load CPU heavily, and high fan
speed is usual in this case.
"Nothing running" - do you mean OpenSolaris on bare hardware?
>At present I'm running a virtual
> machine (with Windows)
> >> and Gnome but I get the same fan speed even when
> there is not
It's better to use http://www.opencsw.org/ IMHO - they have more recent package
versions.
Sorry for not providing solution to your problem.
> I follow the blastwave.org
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> We haven't done any detach command. I simply went for the replacement.
Probably you can "undo" such replacement - plug back the faulty disk, then
import the pool, and only then something like
# zpool remove ...
replace the faulty disk with the new one
# zpool add ...
(it contains a part of
your pool, and the new one is not), and then replace it again in the proper way
- with special commands before and after replacing.
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It has been updated to snv_134b . But why?
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checked for updates... No updates available.
Returned to work, where server is *updating*. Re-checked repository settings in
Package Manager. The only repository there is
http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/ .
How comes that my server is updating?
When the update will be complete, I will report re
for a server, and I could pay my own money to have a pleasure
knowing that I have a proper server.
There are countries where sysadmin's yearly salary is less than current price
for Solaris support contract. It's a shame to say so, but I am in one of them.
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Not only one computer, but "in the hardware environment identified by us".
Show them all your PCs, and they will choose :)
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> and the forum could be better organized like this one for example
I could not find a forum at openindiana.org at all... Is it exists?
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> My request is rejected with:
> "Your subscription is not allowed because the email address you gave is
> insecure"
Try to contact Alasdair Lumsden at alasdai...@googlemail.com - he is the
creator of OpenIndiana project.
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the problem, I am
visiting opensolaris.org .
All these "follow us on twitter" and "see us on facebook" simply irritate me,
especially when seen on front page of a serious site, like an official site of
a well-known company.
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> the system responded "cannot open tank; no such pool"
Is the tank pool listed in the output of "zpool status"?
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> According to the Wikipedia article on Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit edition
> is limited to 16GB, and higher editions are limited to 192GB.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know.
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Windows 7 should work well for calculations such as rendering, but not
real-time rendering on screen. Virtual graphics card is far less good than a
real one.
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> If you haven't tried it, what do you base the assesment on. You know someone
> who has done this, or heard of it being done somewhere?
I am running Windows 7 64bit at home as a host, and Windows XP, OpenSolaris and
OpenIndiana as guests under VirtualBox. No problems at all. I think that
Virtu
> What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able
to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram?
I think that VirtualBox will be fairly able to allocate most of the 24GB of RAM
to guest Windows 7 64bit. I did try myself though.
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> the license acceptance form displayed when the user actually installs from
> these images lists additional uses including commercial and production
> environments.
Obviously for those who are paying for support contracts.
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> And realistically, having the source code is nice and all, but how many
> people really compile ON anyways? Most folks just want something they can
> download, install, and use.
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> Well OpenSolaris 2009.06 has production "pay-for" support.
Well I'm not willing to pay, like the rest of the community (if I could
understand right community inclines),I just willing to use the latest OS from
Sun, which is officially free to use in production environment, and which is
the lat
> So to all ... thinking they have to switch to Linux ... You can still have
> your Solaris for free
What about those who are using OpenSolaris for a production server? I think
running OS 2009.06 is an option, at least while it does not need any serious
security patches (not counting OpenIndian
> Given that the development metric quoted there is the cumulative historic
> investment in the existing code-base, Illumos would probably be just as
> justified as Oracle in making the same claim.
Agreed. 20 million hours cannot refer to (Open)Solaris 10 -> 11 improvements.
- Dmit
> Did Oracle really spend 1 man years?
Yes, I ask myself the same question :)
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11 Express
only for evaluation and development purposes... We have to wait for the release.
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than 2,700 projects with more
than 400 inventions, and will be the result of more than 20 million person
hours of development and over 60 million hours of testing."
Can Illumos developers spend 20 million person hours of development?
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your applications, and not for any other purpose."
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>There's also a community distro in the works, stay tuned.
Is this the Illumos project?
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>I afraid that it may be functionally limited - compared to full Solaris 11.
... and compared to OpenSolaris :(
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limited - compared to full Solaris 11.
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>What are you talking about?
I am talking about *Oracle* product, which is limited in memory usage, disk
space usage, and CPU usage, and has word "Express" in the product name.
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>What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time.
Every company has their own product naming guidelines. "Express" from IBM means
other thing than "Express" from Oracle.
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r data, use up to 1GB of memory, and use one CPU
on the host machine".
Note the word "Express" in the product name.
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>I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise,
>that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space,
>and CPU cores.
That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle.
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to power up a small university
server.
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At the time when latest OpenSolaris source code is still available, a fork
attempt is possible. We see (and put our hopes into) the Illumos project. There
are Nexenta and others.
The question is: Which fork will receive the most stunning evolution? Solaris
11? Illumos? Other? The answer is not
>i think IPS repos might soon disapper
We still have http://www.blastwave.org/
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>most OpenSolaris users today have no idea what "ON" is
Indeed, I had to (google) search to find out what "ON" is - to understand
better what Illumos project is all about.
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This is great to have a community-driven OS/Net consolidation, but... what the
point to do a "secret" preparation work and announce the project release date,
if we still cannot see any information on illumos.org on how to build the
OS/Net? Or maybe download any binary? We only know that the proj
>I suggest ImOS (yeah, that's called "I am OS", contrasted with "I am a PC" and
>"I am a Mac"
- iOS ? (if not copyrighted already by Apple)...
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>You may want to read up on the ancient Unix idea of "setuid root" software
before making such proclamations.
Sorry for this. I am not a UNIX guru, indeed.
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>sound-juicer is started by a non-root user the process runs as root and writes
>its files as root
If this is true, this is a huge security hole. Someone should investigate the
problem. As far as I could understand, Sound Juicer does not know root
password, however bypassing this somehow. Total
Have you Network Auto-Magic, aka NWAM, disabled?
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>We do occasionally remove things when they very clearly violate the TOU
Thank you. This answers my question.
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Sorry, I have found *one* of the "disappeared" posts. It was strangely placed
in the post tree. Not sure about the other one.
And it is still unclear whether there is moderation here.
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>Unless you have very specific examples of said post removals, you should not
>make such asssertions
Here you say that there is *NO* moderation.
I have two examples, though can cite them only using my memory, as they are
disappeared. Maybe not worth citing them actually.
>As for moderation, it
I have noticed that moderation is already in place. Some (maybe off-topic,
maybe not) posts are deleted almost immediately.
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>revolt against ORACLE and get OpenSolaris out of their hands
I afraid that they *own* this project/product.
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It's summer. Programmers gone mountain-climbing ;)
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For me, installation of 2009.06 version on a 2-disk machine was fast and easy.
It was extremely slow however until I have changed my old worn-out CD-ROM drive.
What I would wish to see in the future, is an option to setup a ZFS mirror at
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>Knock it off you guys.
>If you want to have legitimate discussion of the merits of different
>platforms, by all means. But this is stupid. Please do jump ship, so you
>won't care about this mailing list anymore.
Oh, what a hostility! Say "Linux", and you're not an IT guy, but totally enemy!
BTW
>RHEL, SLES, or possibly Debian
Would you recommend Fedora?
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>You shouldn't pay for reverse-engineered codecs (at least at Russia)
That is you say that taking stolen things is legal (but not anywhere)?
>You shouldn't pay to capitalists for something that may be legally received
>without any fee
If *legally*, indeed, I agree. How capitalists are involved
Simple:
it might be an EFI partition is required. It should be created with:
format -e
:)
rd...@znas:~$ ls -v /dev/dsk/c*d0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 58 апр. 19 09:03 /dev/dsk/c4t0d0 ->
../../devices/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@0,0:wd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
rd...@znas:~$ ls -l /dev/dsk/c*d0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 58 апр. 19 09:03 /dev/dsk/c4t0d0 ->
../../devices/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@0,0:wd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 58 апр. 19 09:03 /dev/dsk/c4t1d0 ->
../../devices/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...
pfexec format
Searching for disks...done
AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
0. c4t0d0
/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@0,0
1. c4t1d0
/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@1,0
2. c4t2d0
/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@2,0
3. c4t3d0
/p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/
Does anybody know - Will the online upgrade process be more reliable in the
future versions?
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>Shawn - just change the "hosts" line of /etc/nsswitch.conf to be:
>hosts: files dns
I wonder why this is not the default setting. I had to apply exactly this
change in order to just surf the web.
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>Sadly no OpenVPN!
Yes, some kind of VPN client please!
Hope developers are listening...
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>Only to leave an never return.
But you're still here? ;)
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> can nexenta become the fork?
Just my opinion:
1. It cannot. Nexenta is mostly Ubuntu with OpenSolaris kernel. Nexenta
engineers do not contribute (much) to OpenSolaris codebase. They are Oracle
(Sun) engineers who do.
2. The fork is not needed. OpenSolaris is actively developed at Oracle and
Yesterday I received a victim.
"SuperServer 5026T-3RF 19" 2U, Intel X58, 1xCPU LGA1366 8xSAS/SATA hot-swap
drive bays, 8 ports SAS LSI 1068E, 6 ports SATA-II Intel ICH10R, 2xGigabit
Ethernet"
and i have 2 ways Openfiler vs Opensolaris :)
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can i upgrade it to realese in the future?
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Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS?
I plann NAS zfs + CIFS,iSCSI
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I create lx zone on UFS and then move to zfs
(on ufs i saw trouble too)
[i]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bdump]$ df -hT
FilesystemTypeSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
none ufs179G 64G 116G 36% /
SQL> CREATE TABLESPACE BITEST
DATAFILE
SIZE 4G AUTOEXTEND OFF,
SIZE 4G AUTOEXTEND OFF
One more tunable disassembler can be found on:
https://maxwellassembler.dev.java.net/
It has definition of SparcV9 instruction set.
It was used to generate ssembler/disassembler in Java.
However, generation of disassembler in C still have to be implemented.
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Hello all.
Where i can find information about differences between fletcher2, fletcher4,
and sha256 algorithms for ZFS checksums?
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Ok, sorry for my english, you are misunderstand me.
My question is very simple:
Whether is at Solaris what or a free-of-charge opportunity to receive updating?
(may be latter then Sun Service Plan-owners)
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I have http://forum.sun.com/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=102448";>some
problems with registration Solaris 10 06/06 for receiving pathes without
Sun Service Plan. Whether there is any another FREE way for downloading
updates, for example as in Linux Fedora?
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I remind, what it hang not only boot, but and at work.
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I'm disappointed,
i'll change sysytem disks and install Windows 2003 x64, if it will work good,
i'll take leave of Solaris :)
maybe it is too early for production
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now i see hp.com
software and drivers
HP ProLiant DL585 Server, Sun Solaris 10 x86 Platform Edition
HP System Management Homepage for Solaris (x86) 10 > 2.0.0 [b]new 18 Jul 06[/b]
so it should be work
???
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32G ram 4x dual Opteron
often, every time after (reboot, init 6)
sometime on power on
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today dl585 hang at work,
but it only copied 1 big file from network,
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YES it's mine,
i have this bug with d585 and dl385 (i have both)
it has latest firmware
DL585 (A01) Servers version 2006.03.22 A (13 Apr 06)
DL385 (A05) Servers version 2006.03.01 (28 Mar 06)
tomorrow morning i'll continue testing, but i don't have many time
i belive you don't leave me alone
i don't now, i'm muzzy
now i'll try to boot
with difeerent options
reboot -- -B acpi-user-options=
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i try to set
set acpica:acpica_muzzle_debug_output=0
set acpica:AcpiDbgLevel=0x7
set acpica:acpica_console_out=1
please see screenshot 3 in the first message
may be increase AcpiDbgLevel?
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can i use this method for debug acpica at boot?
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/danasblog?entry=solaris_acpi_ca_debug_output
I try it today later
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i don't understand it :) (i run it in 32-bit mode )
# ./autovec
[1]
i8042_intr() pri 0
[4]
[6]
fdc_intr() pri 0
[9]
acpi_wrapper_isr() pri 0
[12]
i8042_intr() pri 0
[14]
ata_intr() pri 0
[18]
cpqary3_hw_isr() pri 0
[25]
bge_intr() pri 0
[32]
mpt_intr() pri 0
[33]
mpt_intr() pri
"npe" not present
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i havn't experience and compiler for remake autovec
can i exlude acpica module?
in /etc/system
exclude: acpica
what consequences for me?
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> Is the hang with oracle reproducable? Does is always
> hang when you
> run a certain database command? For example when you
> have
> tablespace allocated to files on a logging ufs
> filesystem, and you
> drop such a file (= remove a big file from a logging
> ufs filesystem) [*] ?
now i try to
> I just began to look at the ACPI code and spec. I
> have no furher idea for now. If I have another one I
> will let you know.
thanks, i wait impatiently ...
i must to make decision, use Solaris or not
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