Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Bart Smaalders
> I would say there are many systems 32-bit only (and there is some > probability even 32-bit SPARC kernel will return). This is absolutely not the case. - Bart -- Bart Smaalders Solaris Kernel Performance ba...@cyber.eng.sun.com http://blogs.sun.com/barts "You will c

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
casper@sun.com wrote: > >> CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't >> much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). >> And well, maybe it's not about optimization, it's more about policy for >> using isa directories. > > > In SPARC, we

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Casper, V po, 09. 02. 2009 v 18:23, casper@sun.com píše: > > AFAIK, when we first did "64-bit" SPARC, Kenbus was a very important > benchmark; it suffered when ls needed to use "isaexec". > > My memory could be failing, though. > I cannot argue for or against, my memory is shorter :-)

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Alex, V po, 09. 02. 2009 v 18:21, Alexander Vlasov píše: > Hello, > > CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't > much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). I would say there are many systems 32-bit only (and there is some probability ev

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
>CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't >much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). >And well, maybe it's not about optimization, it's more about policy for >using isa directories. In SPARC, we can really get rid of much of the isaexec

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
AFAIK, when we first did "64-bit" SPARC, Kenbus was a very important benchmark; it suffered when ls needed to use "isaexec". My memory could be failing, though. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Vlasov
Hello, CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). And well, maybe it's not about optimization, it's more about policy for using isa directories. SDL case is absolutely unclear: if one knows which IS

Re: [osol-discuss] [storage-discuss] NDMPCOPY Test Tool and NDMP Protocol Test Suite Released

2009-02-09 Thread Erast Benson
Great! uploaded to Nexenta APT now, for NCP2 users just do: # apt-get install ndmpcopy On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 17:46 -0800, Ben Rockwood wrote: > Vilas Deshpande, I love you!!! Thank you! I've been needing this badly! > > > benr. > > ___ > storage-d

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi, V po, 09. 02. 2009 v 16:05, casper@sun.com píše: > >However, in OpenSolaris I can see few deviations from this principle: > >/usr/bin/amd64 contains more binaries than /usr/bin/i86 and > >/usr/bin/pentium_pro+mmx together; for example, take a look at `ls' or > >`sdl-config': > > > >/usr

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
>Hi, > >i'm not sure if it is really necessary to have all the GNU tools >preferred over Solaris tools. The most user expect GNU behaviour of tar >(-z, -j), grep (-r), find (-iname, . as default path) and may be some >other tools. But for ls, chmod and df (zfs) i assume the most GNU >familiar user

Re: [osol-discuss] osol-0906-106a available

2009-02-09 Thread NAKAJI Hiroyuki
> In > Martin Bochnig wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 3:21 AM, NAKAJI Hiroyuki wrote: > >> In <4cb4ba740902031244s18d61999ye748345fce315...@mail.gmail.com> > >> Al Hopper wrote: > > > >> osol-0906, based on build 106a, is available on genunix.org. > > > > Thanks for the sna

[osol-discuss] J'espere votre réponse

2009-02-09 Thread nap.isaac1
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Re: [osol-discuss] Thoughts/problems with install on MacPro with SXCE-105

2009-02-09 Thread John Kaitschuck
>> > Have you tried an upgrade? > > That would be one way to see if the problem is with the b105 code base > or with the installer. > Yes, I did get it upgraded to B105, so it looks like an installer issue to me. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailin

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
Joerg, you're right, I think I copied from an old post of mine without double checking, sorry for it. By the way, I was just saying that I remember I was hit by that issue little more than a years ago: I began to correlate things when you cited larger sparse files and multivolumes. By the way, tha

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > Enrico Maria Crisostomo wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Alan Coopersmith >> wrote: >>> Brian Smith wrote: If a GNU utility is a proper superset of the Solaris version, would patches to replace the Solaris version w

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
For as rare as such an event could be, I was affected by this: more than once GNU tar couldn't extract it's own files while fortunately pax could. I had to back up some big directories with GNU tar on Solaris 10 and sometimes it happened that tar exited with exit status 0 doing nothing. Archives we

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:03:12 +0100 Mika Borner wrote: > We should not forget that Apple welcomes users with a BSD userland. Many > developers also use Mac OS X as their preferred platform. And almost > everybody seems quite happy with it... This isn't quite true. Yes, OSX is fundamentally a BSD

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread David . Comay
[ I've moved opensolaris-discuss to the Bcc ] > The utilities in question do not support Linux specific features. Why do you > believe you will be able to feed back such enhancements for Solaris to the > upstream? Is it your personal experience that this is the case or can you point to mail archi

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:04:03 -0800 Bart Smaalders wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:42:00 -0500 (EST) Dennis Clarke > > wrote: > >> If the Solaris commands become a superset of the Gnu ones, then that > >> position becomes a fait accompli. > > > > Thus avoiding the entire

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:42:00 -0500 (EST) Dennis Clarke wrote: > If the Solaris commands become a superset of the Gnu ones, then that > position becomes a fait accompli. Thus avoiding the entire question of whether or not that's the best - or even a desirable - goal. http://www.m

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > Brian Smith wrote: > > If a GNU utility is a proper superset of the Solaris version, would patches > > to replace the Solaris version with the GNU version be accepted? > > I would think so, but it would depend on specific cases. > > > Or

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:54:15 -0600 (CST) "David Dyer-Bennet" wrote: > On Wed, January 14, 2009 13:39, Fredrich Maney wrote: > > I agree with one caveat: the native fully supported and integrated Sun > > tools should be come first the default PATHs when shipped and > > modifying that value should

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Julian Wiesener
Hi, i'm not sure if it is really necessary to have all the GNU tools preferred over Solaris tools. The most user expect GNU behaviour of tar (-z, -j), grep (-r), find (-iname, . as default path) and may be some other tools. But for ls, chmod and df (zfs) i assume the most GNU familiar users would

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
>However, in OpenSolaris I can see few deviations from this principle: >/usr/bin/amd64 contains more binaries than /usr/bin/i86 and >/usr/bin/pentium_pro+mmx together; for example, take a look at `ls' or >`sdl-config': > >/usr/bin/amd64/ls is 64-bit binary >/usr/bin/i86/ls is not present >/usr

[osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Vlasov
Hello, according to isaexec manual page, it traverses the list for an executable file in subdirectories of the original directory, named according to isalist output. When such a file is located, execve() is invoked with argv[] and envp[]. So to make OS autoselect appropriate binary for p