Re: [osol-discuss] Books or documents for university students

2007-09-07 Thread Brandorr
I'm going to forward this to docs-discuss, as there is some material particularly written to address the needs of University students. -Brian On 9/7/07, Ganesh Hiregoudar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Could you please suggest me which is the best book on open solaris for > beginners wh

[osol-discuss] Books or documents for university students

2007-09-07 Thread Ganesh Hiregoudar
Hi All, Could you please suggest me which is the best book on open solaris for beginners which we can give it to university students in India. Also any good material which I can print and give it to students/Professors from opensolaris.org? Appreciate your response. Regards Ganesh. __

Re: [osol-discuss] REMINDER: OpenSolaris Developer Summit

2007-09-07 Thread S h i v
On 9/8/07, Sara Dornsife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agenda: > We've had the following topics suggested: > > Packaging > Drivers > Desktop > Patching > Installation > Community growth and participation Am not a participant. I topic I would have suggested if I were one is already there on the

Re: [osol-discuss] gcc with GNU ld ?

2007-09-07 Thread Shawn Walker
On 07/09/2007, Akhilesh Mritunjai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm a bit miffed with all the troubles getting the numerous open source > programs to compile under nevada with gcc. The most frequent and annoying > problem is when the linker is assumed to be GNU ld, and is passed specific >

Re: [osol-discuss] funding priorities [was Re: A big PCFS change in the pipeline]

2007-09-07 Thread S h i v
On 9/7/07, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The sole exception I'd recognize would be rants about the speed at > > which the gates are moving into the open, and the way the rest of the > > tools are being handled. > > That may be of interest to us but again not our business. To extent

[osol-discuss] gcc with GNU ld ?

2007-09-07 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
Hi I'm a bit miffed with all the troubles getting the numerous open source programs to compile under nevada with gcc. The most frequent and annoying problem is when the linker is assumed to be GNU ld, and is passed specific parameters (eg. --with-version-script), which the SUN ld (in /usr/ccs/b

[osol-discuss] REMINDER: OpenSolaris Developer Summit

2007-09-07 Thread Sara Dornsife
Reminder: The weekend of October 13^th is little more than a month away and the OpenSolaris Developer Summit is fast approaching. Registration: Thanks to those who have already registered. If you are planning to attend but haven't regist

[osol-discuss] RSA key fingerprint of hg.opensolaris.org?

2007-09-07 Thread Will Fiveash
So when I do: $ hg clone ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/onnv/onnv-gate The authenticity of host 'hg.opensolaris.org (72.5.123.5)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 63:b9:7a:f3:dc:a4:47:a7:a5:50:ef:05:78:39:8d:ad. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? which I was instructed

Re: [osol-discuss] is there an identd client that works on solaris?

2007-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Alan Coopersmith writes: > James Carlson wrote: > > Peter W. Osel writes: > >> Hopefully we can create enough momentum and get enough help to get a > >> RFC1413 identification server (identd) included in Solaris, I did file a > >> RFE back in 2004: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=5

Re: [osol-discuss] funding priorities [was Re: A big PCFS change in the pipeline]

2007-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Dennis Clarke writes: > > As long as you're going to be complaining about Sun's spending on > > PCFS, or any other development project, we might as well complain > > about _your_ spending on the issue, as you're also a member. Clearly > > you understand the importance, so what's holding you back?

Re: [osol-discuss] Should B72 be here any day now?

2007-09-07 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Thus, if you share /opt/csw between boot > environments, you're sharing > only the installed bits and not the packaging control > information. > Any changes in packaging you make (such as when > running "pkg-get -u") > will _not_ be reflected to the other boot > environments. > -- > James Carlso

Re: [osol-discuss] is there an identd client that works on solaris?

2007-09-07 Thread Alan Coopersmith
James Carlson wrote: > Peter W. Osel writes: >> Hopefully we can create enough momentum and get enough help to get a RFC1413 >> identification server (identd) included in Solaris, I did file a RFE back in >> 2004: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=5084439 > > See also CR 4616466 (ma

Re: [osol-discuss] is there an identd client that works on solaris?

2007-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Peter W. Osel writes: > Hopefully we can create enough momentum and get enough help to get a RFC1413 > identification server (identd) included in Solaris, I did file a RFE back in > 2004: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=5084439 See also CR 4616466 (mapping sockets to PIDs) and 428

Re: [osol-discuss] funding priorities [was Re: A big PCFS change in the pipeline]

2007-09-07 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Kaiwai Gardiner writes: >> >>> Pardon? So funding pie in the sky ideas which have no eventual outcome >>> is a great way to spend money? christ, look at the crap Xerox was >>> spending R&D money on that actually produced no products for the market >>> place. >>>

Re: [osol-discuss] funding priorities [was Re: A big PCFS change in the pipeline]

2007-09-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you may be missing several fundamental issues here. One > > important one is the concept of "skill sets." It isn't as though the > > results of redirecting those "pie in the sky" people (whoever they may > > be) towards PCFS would be somethi

Re: [osol-discuss] funding priorities [was Re: A big PCFS change in the pipeline]

2007-09-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Kaiwai Gardiner writes: >> Pardon? So funding pie in the sky ideas which have no eventual outcome >> is a great way to spend money? christ, look at the crap Xerox was >> spending R&D money on that actually produced no products for the market >> place. > > I think you may be missing several funda

Re: [osol-discuss] is there an identd client that works on solaris?

2007-09-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>pidentd used to work for us up until >Solaris 10 08/07 ca me along...: It's still on my "todo" list as I was the person who did the most recent updates to pidentd. It broke with non-shared IP instances and will likely not easily be made to work for n

Re: [osol-discuss] is there an identd client that works on solaris?

2007-09-07 Thread Peter W. Osel
pidentd used to work for us up until Solaris 10 08/07 came along...: http://www.webservertalk.com/archive100-2007-7-1880489.html http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/crossbow-discuss/2007-May/000571.html Hopefully we can create enough momentum and get

[osol-discuss] funding priorities [was Re: A big PCFS change in the pipeline]

2007-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Kaiwai Gardiner writes: > Pardon? So funding pie in the sky ideas which have no eventual outcome > is a great way to spend money? christ, look at the crap Xerox was > spending R&D money on that actually produced no products for the market > place. I think you may be missing several fundamental iss

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:32, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:37 +0100, Alan Burlison wrote: >> Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: >> >>> Maybe I'm bitter and jaded because I'm fed up with the lack of >>> responsibility taken by the said parties. I'm sorry but if I >>> fobbed off >>> responsi

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:37 +0100, Alan Burlison wrote: > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > > Maybe I'm bitter and jaded because I'm fed up with the lack of > > responsibility taken by the said parties. I'm sorry but if I fobbed off > > responsibility to the same degree demonstrated by some I would never

Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris Express Developer Edition be used to

2007-09-07 Thread MC
> Is there any follow up to this? Is it confirmed you > can build OpenSolaris from the developer edition? The developer edition is just a well-tested community edition. Last I heard here, the new version will be out in days or weeks. On building the source, I clicked around and found this from

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Alan Burlison wrote: > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > >> Maybe I'm bitter and jaded because I'm fed up with the lack of >> responsibility taken by the said parties. I'm sorry but if I fobbed off >> responsibility to the same degree demonstrated by some I would never >> keep a job. > > I've just asked y

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Alan Burlison
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Maybe I'm bitter and jaded because I'm fed up with the lack of > responsibility taken by the said parties. I'm sorry but if I fobbed off > responsibility to the same degree demonstrated by some I would never > keep a job. I've just asked you to stop bad-mouthing people, y

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-07 Thread Lurie
> See other postings. Speed suffers from the > singlethreadedness, from the > bad FAT lookup strategies / too-frequent FAT > accesses, and from the lack > of readahead in PCFS. > > Future work :) yep, thanks for your work :) This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [osol-discuss] A big PCFS change in the pipeline

2007-09-07 Thread Lurie
> Do not expect to see more than 12 MB/s on Solaris. > > Unless I missed a software update information, > Solaris does not yet support DMA > on USB-2.0. > > If you like to get the possible throughput, you may > use "readcd f=/dev/null" > with the apropriate dev= parameter found with readcd > -sc

Re: [osol-discuss] cdrw, cdrecord and NIH

2007-09-07 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 02:39 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > Also, don't assume that failing to adopt those > > not-invented-here > > things means that either we're ignorant of them or > > that we didn't > > bother giving them serious consideration. Instead, I > > suggest asking > > the people involve

Re: [osol-discuss] cdrw, cdrecord and NIH

2007-09-07 Thread UNIX admin
> Also, don't assume that failing to adopt those > not-invented-here > things means that either we're ignorant of them or > that we didn't > bother giving them serious consideration. Instead, I > suggest asking > the people involved (hint: they're not all on this > noisy mailing list) > whether th

Re: [osol-discuss] cdrw, cdrecord and NIH

2007-09-07 Thread UNIX admin
> Gee thanks. You say the kindest things. Yeah, even I have a moment once every 100 years or so. > Show me a successfully innovative company that does > not suffer a > degree of NIH. That's not to defend NIH, it just > comes with the > territory. No dispute there, in fact that's what I wrote

Re: [osol-discuss] which community for 652094 bug ?

2007-09-07 Thread Neerhaj N Joshi
Thanks for prompt reply. apologies for the folly. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 09:42 +0100, Alan Burlison wrote: > Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > > > Yeah, and the current situation has worked so well so far. > How > > long did it take for Sun to realise that SPARC isn't the be all and > end > > all? when their share price plumited to 1/10th? when man

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 00:07 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: > On 05/09/07, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: > > > So it would seem: > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/ > > > > > > If they actually follow through on this, I'd buy a new ATi card in a >

Re: [osol-discuss] ATi Solaris drivers in our future?

2007-09-07 Thread Alan Burlison
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Yeah, and the current situation has worked so well so far. How > long did it take for Sun to realise that SPARC isn't the be all and end > all? when their share price plumited to 1/10th? when management finally > woke up from their opium hazed existance and realise

Re: [osol-discuss] Writing DVD +/-R DL

2007-09-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why five years? > > > > Because I grant for stable interfaces. > > > > Whether 3.0 is a major new release is not important if you care about > > stability. > > > > If I change the output without giving the GUIs and other dependent > > applications