Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Simon Phipps wrote: I would like to suggest follow-up is directed solely to advocacy- discuss (I have set reply-to). On Jun 26, 2007, at 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yes, I feel that some kind of prize or reward is essential, otherwise we don't stand a very good chance of getting the

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I get to the question in the subject, let me spell out the background for it: Linux - *the* open source operating system/kernel FreeBSD - promotes itself as being the BSD to use for desktop/server NetBSD - promotes itself as being easy port OpenBSD - promotes itse

Re: [osol-discuss] stable ABI advantages ...

2007-06-25 Thread Giles Turner
On 6/26/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [i]The advantage[s] of a stable ABI are all mitigated when binary packages of proprietary drivers are available. [/i] http://www4.osnews.com/permalink?250425 Can someone smarter than me comment on that post? :) I believe that post refers to propriet

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Hahn wrote: ... I think these are all good points, and think your proposed slogans are pretty good candidates, too. I believe I've seen similar ideas in both the Advocacy group and the Indiana project, too--I also remember that Dennis has pushed out some p

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make it an attractive destination for other companies, besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware. And what would we do with that? (Really - I'm coming from a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a har

Re: [osol-discuss] Codec pack gone?

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Ian Collins wrote: I just tried installing the codec pack from http://opensolaris.es/codec-pack.sh and the install fails with In case this helps, on indiana-discuss, the author of the codec pack wrote: = ... = The bright side is that I committed all the patches I wrote for

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Glynn Foster
Glynn Foster wrote: > > Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> Hmm... but I *can* imagine bounties for development effort being >> offered. As well as SoC type sponsorships. Those kinds of effort are >> very useful, and cost far far less than actually hiring a well paid >> engineer. > > Let's focus some o

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Glynn Foster
Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Hmm... but I *can* imagine bounties for development effort being > offered. As well as SoC type sponsorships. Those kinds of effort are > very useful, and cost far far less than actually hiring a well paid > engineer. Let's focus some of that energy into getting kick a

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is making OpenSolaris a non profit organisation on the agenda of the OGB? No - what would the benefit of that be? To make it an attractive destination for other companies, besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware.

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Kristin Amundsen
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Kristin Amundsen wrote: I am really curious now how much is missing from the sources currently available. I will have to look at this. One major hole missing is a standards compliant shell (since Solaris ksh source is not released) though Roland is getting close to f

Re: [osol-discuss] USB Video Cam

2007-06-25 Thread Colin Zou
If you need help regarding as developing solaris drivers, please feel free to send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am glad to help. Colin Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hi, Yeap, I'm current learning some C - hopefully porting the Linux driver for the Ricoh camera won't take too l

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jun 26, 2007, at 02:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun going bust shouldn't disrupt OpenSolaris. Whether or not that will ever happen, who knows, but the two shouldn't be joined at the hip. The source code is forkable, GenUnix.org exists, we have a large, diverse membership as well as a s

RE: [osol-discuss] Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-25 Thread Lu, Baolu
> Hopefully I can get one of those who actually did the work to post a > blog entry about it. Anyway, the executables and libraries which need > to remain stable during the entire duration of the patching application > and would be affected by the patch operation are copied into a temporary >

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> To make it an attractive destination for other companies, >> besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware. > > And what would we do with that? (Really - I'm coming from > a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a hard > time findi

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 6/25/07, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And what would we do with that? (Really - I'm coming from a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a hard time finding ways to spend it's cash - it's not enough to hire a stable of full-time developers, so has avoided paying f

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Simon Phipps wrote: On Jun 26, 2007, at 02:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't anyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all? OK, I'm confused. Earlier you asserted tha

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Alan Coopersmith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make it an attractive destination for other companies, besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware. And what would we do with that? (Really - I'm coming from a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a hard time finding ways to spen

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Bryan Allen
On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On Jun 26, 2007, at 02:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't anyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all? OK, I'm confu

Re: [osol-discuss] Making OpenSolaris 501(c)(3) (Was Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would be very much in favour of seeing OpenSolaris become a 501(c)(3) entity. In fact, I think it is essential that OpenSoalris does so, otherwise OpenSolaris is not exactly attractive for people/companies to donate anything towards in t

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make it an attractive destination for other companies, besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware. And what would we do with that? (Really - I'm coming from a background of the X.Org Foundation, which is having a hard time finding ways to spend it's cash - it's not enoug

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Lau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... From the very start of this, my position has been that getting this to properly motivate people requires a competition with a prize at the end and that for this reason it requires more thought than the community "just d

Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jun 26, 2007, at 02:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't anyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all? OK, I'm confused. Earlier you asserted that open source was all a

OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Alan Coopersmith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is making OpenSolaris a non profit organisation on the agenda of the OGB? No - what would the benefit of that be? To make it an attractive destination for other companies, besides Sun, to donate cash/hardware. Or is making OpenSolaris a

[osol-discuss] Making OpenSolaris 501(c)(3) (Was Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: ... If you feel strongly about that strategy in general, perhaps you'd like to go do the legwork and find out what's required to set up an independent 501(c)(3) or similar foundation (or a non-US equivalent if that would be advantageous). Without something like that,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is making OpenSolaris a non profit organisation on the agenda of the OGB? No - what would the benefit of that be? -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Simon Phipps wrote: I would like to suggest follow-up is directed solely to advocacy- discuss (I have set reply-to). On Jun 26, 2007, at 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yes, I feel that some kind of prize or reward is essential, otherwise we don't stand a very good chance of getting th

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Simon Phipps
I would like to suggest follow-up is directed solely to advocacy- discuss (I have set reply-to). On Jun 26, 2007, at 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yes, I feel that some kind of prize or reward is essential, otherwise we don't stand a very good chance of getting the right result unless

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Simon Phipps
I would like to suggest follow-up is directed solely to advocacy- discuss (I have set reply-to). On Jun 26, 2007, at 01:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yes, I feel that some kind of prize or reward is essential, otherwise we don't stand a very good chance of getting the right result unless

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:04:18PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does a community group have the power to decide that a monetary > prize is awarded to whoever comes up with the winner? The way I see it, you're welcome to so declare, but you don't (as a CG) have the ability to collect and disb

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Stephen Lau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... From the very start of this, my position has been that getting this to properly motivate people requires a competition with a prize at the end and that for this reason it requires more thought than the community "just doing it." The only priz

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Stephen Lau
Stephen Lau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And further to that, does the community group have the power to award that kind of prize in OpenSolaris's name? No, but it (the CG) has the power to conduct all the investigation & research and request either the OGB to approve it or request for a

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Stephen Lau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Lau wrote: I still maintain that identity and 'creating a mark' are not issues that should involve the OGB. The OGB should be about governance, not a generic leadership board. These sorts

[osol-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Darren . Reed
Eric Boutilier wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Lau wrote: I still maintain that identity and 'creating a mark' are not issues that should involve the OGB. The OGB should be about governance, not a generic leadership board. These sorts of things are best left

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Codec pack gone?

2007-06-25 Thread Ché Kristo
DVD's are MPEG-2 which is inluded in the pack from Fluendo, I gather you would have difficulty with zoning and the like though...maybe a wiser soul can shed light on this... A fresh install of SXDE did not play DVD's in my experience :( This message posted from opensolaris.org __

[osol-discuss] Re:

2007-06-25 Thread carlos antonio neira bustos
exactly , given some time rhel 6 with zfs This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Which NFS server version Sol 10 has?

2007-06-25 Thread Tom Haynes
Tatyaso wrote: What is the default NFS server version available on Solaris 10? When I do rpcinfo it shows version3. Is it correct? How can I have NFS v4 on Solaris? # rpcinfo -u localhost nfs program 13 version 2 ready and waiting program 13 version 3 ready and waiting -- Tatyaso T

[osol-discuss] Re: [perf-discuss] cpu performance counters obtained by vmstat and prstat look conflict

2007-06-25 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 6/18/07, 陶捷 Euler Tao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear all: I'm compiling the ON build 65's source code now, using "nightly opensolaris.sh" command. The prstat reports that system is very idle, but the load average tells me that the system is very busy. -,- And then I check the vmstat report,

Re: [osol-discuss] USB Video Cam

2007-06-25 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
Hi, Yeap, I'm current learning some C - hopefully porting the Linux driver for the Ricoh camera won't take too long - I've had a look through it, and it seems to be quite a compact/well written driver. Thank you for your email, Matthew On 25/06/07, Colin Zou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaiwa

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
Hi, How about this one: "OpenSolaris: What ever you want it to be" Open ended, aiming all areas. Matthew On 25/06/07, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > Hmm, sex, drugs and rock 'n roll :-) > > One would assume that since there isn't that "what is Opensolaris a

[osol-discuss] Re: [perf-discuss] cpu performance counters obtained by vmstat and prstat look conflict

2007-06-25 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 6/18/07, Wee Yeh Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: prstat may miss Stupid safari3 is chopping off my post. prstat may miss short lived processes and this seems possible because you are compiling stuff. -- Just me, Wire ... Blog: ___ opensolaris-di

[osol-discuss] Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-25 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 6/17/07, William James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Therefore, as a leader in this project : > > I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate > this project at OpenSolaris.org. Please indicate a YES or NO > belo

[osol-discuss] Re: [perf-discuss] cpu performance counters obtained by vmstat and prstat look conflict

2007-06-25 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 6/18/07, 陶捷 Euler Tao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ok, i see. Then, how can I correct this problem when using prstat? I'd try microstate accounting to see but I'm not sure if it will help. You could also try to reduce the reporting interval. Or is there any other statistics tool that could c

[osol-discuss] Re: [perf-discuss] cpu performance counters obtained by vmstat and prstat look conflict

2007-06-25 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 6/18/07, Jean-Francois Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Typically, changing the prstat refresh time doesn't change anything because the %cpu it is displaying remains the decaying average over the last minute. Jean, You are certainly correct about pcpu. I was hoping that reducing refresh

[osol-discuss] Re: [vconsole-discuss] Re: Re: Virtual Console new release available NOW!

2007-06-25 Thread Dev Mazumdar
Riny Qian wrote: It could be done. Could you please summarize and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or any better alias?) thanks, Riny Hi, I've been working with vconsoles folks and one of the issues I would like folks in the ON build team to look into is making the tools easier. ---

Re: [osol-discuss] IOCTL export up to 4k bytes only

2007-06-25 Thread Fintan Ryan
Hi, This is better suited to driver-discuss, redirecting. - F. On 6/20/07, Tom Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hello, I am using ioctl to get GLDv2 network driver information. I find there is a limitation in Solaris, ie. no matter how big the buffer provided by user application to the netwo

[osol-discuss] RE: [perf-discuss] cpu performance counters obtained by vmstat and prstat look conflict

2007-06-25 Thread Jean-Francois Richard
Hi I don't know enough about the specifics for Open Solaris so the following is based on the guess that it is the same as regular Solaris (the fact that your vmstat r queue is at values like 7 and that idle CPU is at 0% but prstat shows only about 4% CPU makes this feel like a good guess) . Hist

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Kristin Amundsen wrote: I am really curious now how much is missing from the sources currently available. I will have to look at this. One major hole missing is a standards compliant shell (since Solaris ksh source is not released) though Roland is getting close to fixing that with the ksh93 i

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Kristin Amundsen
Heh, yes I have read it before. This is my job for Sun. I have done all of Sun's brands in the last 7 years. I know exactly what we need to do and how it has to happen. What I have not ever done is to try to run the conformance suites on OpenSolaris. -Kristin __

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Nevada and sparcv8

2007-06-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:36:25 -0700, Bart Smaalders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Basically, you'll find an SS10 violates the assumptions upon which ZFS > was designed - fast cpus, lots of memory bandwidth. My guess is that > you would be quite lucky to get anywhere close to 20MB/sec... > > W

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> A list could be made of everything that would be needed (though it would > take a bit of time). > > I am really curious now how much is missing from the sources currently > available. I will have to look at this. > > -Kristin Are you ready for this? :-) Looks at the opening lines on this

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-25 Thread Casper . Dik
>I did a basic fsck but it did not report any errors. It's not about errors; sorry I should have added "and then look at the summary line; it says something like Y blocks, X fragments; blocks may be 0. >I also upped the file descriptors in an attempt to resolve the issue. Won't help. >As you m

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >>> Simple question : >>> >>> Can a person or person(s) with sufficient craft take the sources >>> from OpenSolaris.org and build a distro which *may* be certified >>> as UNIX ? >>> >>> Yes or No ? >> >> >> Sources only? I do

[osol-discuss] Re: Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-25 Thread Steve
Thanks Casper... I did a basic fsck but it did not report any errors. I also upped the file descriptors in an attempt to resolve the issue. As you mentioned I have the former situation where I cannot create a file which does sugest an inode issue. I only got to look at this system today (new jo

Re: [osol-discuss] Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-25 Thread Casper . Dik
>Hello all, > >I am running Solaris 10 and am getting 'out of disk space' messages from the >kernel but a df -k sh ow that only 90% is used and that around 4Gb is available. > >I cannot write to this partition though! > >What could be the cause of this? If it's an UFS partition it could be one

[osol-discuss] Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-25 Thread Steve
Hello all, I am running Solaris 10 and am getting 'out of disk space' messages from the kernel but a df -k show that only 90% is used and that around 4Gb is available. I cannot write to this partition though! What could be the cause of this? Thanks SRG This message posted from opensolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Kristin Amundsen
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: Simple question : Can a person or person(s) with sufficient craft take the sources from OpenSolaris.org and build a distro which *may* be certified as UNIX ? Yes or No ? Sources only? I don't think so, at least not until Proj

Re: [osol-discuss] Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Miner
Steven Sim wrote: Folks; Today Sun BIG ADMIN website posted an article by Lynne Thompson entitled "What's New in Patching " See http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/sundocs/articles/patch-wn.jsp Could somebody here elaborate more on the following statement ".Now, deferred-activation patc

[osol-discuss] stable ABI advantages ...

2007-06-25 Thread MC
[i]The advantage[s] of a stable ABI are all mitigated when binary packages of proprietary drivers are available. [/i] http://www4.osnews.com/permalink?250425 Can someone smarter than me comment on that post? :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Re: Pardus: Using high level languages for packaging and install

2007-06-25 Thread ahmet a a
another link for their init system details: http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projeler/comar/SpeedingUpLinuxWithPardus.html This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: Simple question : Can a person or person(s) with sufficient craft take the sources from OpenSolaris.org and build a distro which *may* be certified as UNIX ? Yes or No ? Sources only? I don't think so, at least not until Project Emancipation is complet

[osol-discuss] Pardus: Using high level languages for packaging and install

2007-06-25 Thread ahmet a a
Hello, i haven't read much about the plans of the new packaging and install system of Solaris so this post may be a little baseless. But i was wondering what language will be used during the implementation. There is a Linux distribution called Pardus, they wrote their install, init and packagin

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> As much as we may want to call OpenSolaris UNIX, we cannot. UNIX is a > trademark owned by The Open Group. Sounds like a deep deep jungle full of many many landsharks. :-( > The UNIX brand is designed to be applied to specific versions of > specific products from specific vendors. This

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Kristin Amundsen
As much as we may want to call OpenSolaris UNIX, we cannot. UNIX is a trademark owned by The Open Group. The UNIX brand is designed to be applied to specific versions of specific products from specific vendors. This is the problem. You cannot brand "OpenSolaris" any more than you could "Linu

[osol-discuss] Re: valgrind for solaris?

2007-06-25 Thread Jürgen Keil
Ian Collins wrote > William James wrote: > > On 6/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> >Are there plans to integrate valgrind in solaris? Linux has a large > >> >lead in code quality because they have tools like valgrind. I think > >> >Solaris needs such a tool, too > >> >

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> This is the most important argument: OpenSolaris is UNIX 03 approved > > It's not, and cannot be (as I explained earlier). > > Solaris 10 3/05 is UNIX 03 certified. No Solaris Nevada build has yet > been certified (since it's not worth paying the Open Group for every

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Nevada and sparcv8

2007-06-25 Thread Bart Smaalders
Steven Stallion wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > Actually, no. ZFS works best with 64bit CPUs (and I can testify to that with issues I've had on i386 PCs), so getting it to run on SPARCv8 systems is goint to mean a compromise in performance for ZFS vs what you'll see with UltraSPARC and

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: This is the most important argument: OpenSolaris is UNIX 03 approved It's not, and cannot be (as I explained earlier). Solaris 10 3/05 is UNIX 03 certified. No Solaris Nevada build has yet been certified (since it's not worth paying the Open Group for every build), and

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > What OpenSolaris needs is something like this: >> > >> > OpenSolaris: the premier open source server platform >> > >> > or... >> > >> > "The OpenSolaris project is the only SVR4 based open source >> > platform that scales evenly from 1 CPU to 12

Re: [osol-discuss] What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What OpenSolaris needs is something like this: > > > > OpenSolaris: the premier open source server platform > > > > or... > > > > "The OpenSolaris project is the only SVR4 based open source > > platform that scales evenly from 1 CPU to 128 CPUs." > >

[osol-discuss] Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-25 Thread Steven Sim
Folks; Today Sun BIG ADMIN website posted an article by Lynne Thompson entitled "What's New in Patching " See http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/sundocs/articles/patch-wn.jsp Could somebody here elaborate more on the following statement ".Now, deferred-activation patching uses the loopb

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project now open: RBridges (IETF TRILL) on Solaris

2007-06-25 Thread James Carlson
Stephen Lau writes: > Admin->Privacy Options->Subscription Rules > Set subscribe_policy to "Confirm" > Admin->Privacy Options->Sender Filters > Set default_member_moderation to "Yes" > > The above should set users to allow to confirm their own subscription > (without requiring admin a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project now open: RBridges (IETF TRILL) on Solaris

2007-06-25 Thread Stephen Lau
James Carlson wrote: Stephen Lau writes: You can subscribe someone as "moderated" so that they receive all postings, but can't post themselves. Effectively it's read-only. Right ... that's what I meant about "simple." What I'd really like is to have the ability for users to specify themselve

Re: Credits to Joerg Schilling __/__ Re: [osol-discuss] Genunix.org download stats

2007-06-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Moinak Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) It slows down to ~ 1/2 the speed it gives a shoert time after the mount. > > This seems to point to a coneptional problem. > > > >Is this observed on a real CDROM device or using a loopback mounted > ISO image on >harddisk ? Also nee

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project now open: RBridges (IETF TRILL) on Solaris

2007-06-25 Thread James Carlson
Stephen Lau writes: > You can subscribe someone as "moderated" so that they receive all > postings, but can't post themselves. Effectively it's read-only. Right ... that's what I meant about "simple." What I'd really like is to have the ability for users to specify themselves as read-only (defa

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-25 Thread Leon Sha
Hi Casper, See comments below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道: Clicking on more players does give me a listing of all of the available players including Solaris x86 (and the ability to download it) did you test that ? Yes, at least up to the point where it said: "Download player

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project now open: RBridges (IETF TRILL) on Solaris

2007-06-25 Thread Stephen Lau
James Carlson wrote: Simon Phipps writes: On Jun 22, 2007, at 13:06, James Carlson wrote: First of all, the archives are open. Anyone can read them. And anyone can file a subscription request to be added to the list, and as long as the request is reasonable (and not "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"), I'll

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Codec pack gone?

2007-06-25 Thread Manish Chakravarty
Will I be able to play DVD's etc with it? What if i decide to make a fresh installation of say SXCE or SXDE? Will i not be able to watch DVD's .. listen to mp3's on my OpenSolaris box now? Ché Kristo wrote: > You could always go the "licensed" path: > http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-200

Re: [osol-discuss] Ramesh

2007-06-25 Thread Brian Gupta
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-25 Thread Casper . Dik
>> Clicking on more players does give me a listing of all of the available >> players including Solaris x86 (and the ability to download it) > >did you test that ? Yes, at least up to the point where it said: "Download player for Solaris X86 now". >if you do, you will find that the Sol

[osol-discuss] Logfile to solve TX problem

2007-06-25 Thread mmkk
Hello, I have a problem about TX network configuration shown below thread. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?forumID=13&threadID=33255 I would like to check some logs to find out how to solve my problem, so I checked files under /var/log. But I couldnt find any logs that showed me some

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
> > >> I remember that too but that was when it still was the Macromedia site. >> Now there is >>a 'More Players' option on the right side of the webpage. >>http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/ >>But that brings you back to the link to download the sparc version 7 >> flashplayer. >>

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-25 Thread Casper . Dik
> I remember that too but that was when it still was the Macromedia site. Now > there is >a 'More Players' option on the right side of the webpage. >http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/ >But that brings you back to the link to download the sparc version 7 >flashplayer. >I sent

[osol-discuss] Re: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Gueven Bay
> carlos antonio neira bustos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > one of the jewels has been stolen ... > > What do you mean has been stolen? > I think I know what he means with "stolen": Fact is that many, many more people are trying Linux than OpenSolaris. The media is writing and talking abo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project now open: RBridges (IETF TRILL) on Solaris

2007-06-25 Thread James Carlson
Simon Phipps writes: > > On Jun 22, 2007, at 13:06, James Carlson wrote: > > First of all, the archives are open. Anyone can read them. And > > anyone can file a subscription request to be added to the list, and as > > long as the request is reasonable (and not "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"), > > I'll app

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
carlos antonio neira bustos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > one of the jewels has been stolen ... What do you mean has been stolen? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http:

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread 陶捷 Euler Tao
userland filesystem? what does it mean? sounds strange... 2007/6/25, carlos antonio neira bustos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: one of the jewels has been stolen ... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-di

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project now open: RBridges (IETF TRILL) on Solaris

2007-06-25 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jun 22, 2007, at 13:06, James Carlson wrote: First of all, the archives are open. Anyone can read them. And anyone can file a subscription request to be added to the list, and as long as the request is reasonable (and not "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"), I'll approve it. The list itself isn't hidden.

[osol-discuss] testing different applications on opensolaris

2007-06-25 Thread Udayan
Hi All, we need the administrative guide and feature list for open solaris (Nevada) snv_65 version. We also intend to install different tools available on opensolaris site (iSCSI initiator, etc) and test them. In case any you can provide any pointers to test plan that exists for testing variou

[osol-discuss] Ramesh

2007-06-25 Thread Rameshkumar_Muthusamy
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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Ghee Teo
carlos antonio neira bustos wrote: one of the jewels has been stolen ... More like one of the jewels have been cloned and that makes the original even more precious :) -Ghee This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss ma

[osol-discuss] Re: Codec pack gone?

2007-06-25 Thread Ché Kristo
You could always go the "licensed" path: http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2007-01.html This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Casper . Dik
>> Will ZFS be more stable on its native OS or in userland on Linux? It >> could be stable on both but I suspect a risk averse decision maker would >> use ZFS on a Solaris and one of the more well-supported filesystems for >> Linux... > >Right now...I think I would not have much of a choice if you

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sil 3124 SATA woes

2007-06-25 Thread Giles Turner
Hello Gary, Sorry to hear about your problems. On 6/22/07, Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Help! Where the heck to I look to track down what's happening. Some other issues... If I make either of the boards PCI masters in the BIOS, I can't boot. If I load both the boards BIOS ROMS,

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-25 Thread Giles Turner
Will ZFS be more stable on its native OS or in userland on Linux? It could be stable on both but I suspect a risk averse decision maker would use ZFS on a Solaris and one of the more well-supported filesystems for Linux... Right now...I think I would not have much of a choice if you are talking

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What *is* OpenSolaris about?

2007-06-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hmm, sex, drugs and rock 'n roll :-) One would assume that since there isn't that "what is Opensolaris all about" means that it is what ever you as an individual want it to be - you want to port it to your toaster or roaster - great. You want to run it as a desktop opera