[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
IMO, compromising on quality, scalability, or maintainability, even to quickly get desktop hardware support equivalent to that of some other OS, is a mistake. And it shouldn't be necessary; if there were some way to find out which drivers that Linux has and Solaris doesn't are the ones people want

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [dtrace-discuss] Three screencasts of OpenSolaris Technologies

2007-03-05 Thread Ian Collins
Peter B. Kessler wrote: > > Does anyone have a Shockwave Flash player for Solaris (x86) I > could borrow? > Macromedia? http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_solaris_x86.tar.gz Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss maili

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
I am very glad to hear such a deep thought. Now return to the original question: with so many hardware not supported by Solaris, what is the solution ? Taking into consideration that specifications are not always available. This solution is not perfect. I will not hesitate if most of the hardwar

[osol-discuss] Re: [dtrace-discuss] Three screencasts of OpenSolaris Technologies

2007-03-05 Thread Peter B. Kessler
Eric Boutilier wrote: Multimedia screencasts featuring some rather familiar names: Brendan Gregg, Tom Erickson, Ginnie Wray, Bill Rushmore... DTrace for JavaScript Debugging http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00953/ Chime Visualization Tool for DTrace http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.n

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Freeman . Liu
Artem Kachitchkine wrote: IMHO, adding new frameworks to the OS in order to work around legal issues is a fundamentally flawed motivation and can lead to duplication, added maintenance burden, confusion among developers and other problems. While there are purely technical advantages of a ge

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Freeman . Liu
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI? Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted in a bunch of comp

[osol-discuss] Lost in NV_56-land..... printing? Sendmail trying to contact Yahoo? HELP!

2007-03-05 Thread Randy DuCharme
Ok, I admit it. I'm even more stupid than I'd first computed.. I've been a Solaris user since Sun made version 7 affordable. I've since retired the SPARCs and am running a 4-core Opteron system have made it through the SCSI debacle only to discover that not only can I not make the sy

[osol-discuss] Three screencasts of OpenSolaris Technologies

2007-03-05 Thread Eric Boutilier
Multimedia screencasts featuring some rather familiar names: Brendan Gregg, Tom Erickson, Ginnie Wray, Bill Rushmore... DTrace for JavaScript Debugging http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00953/ Chime Visualization Tool for DTrace http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00941/ Dual

[osol-discuss] Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 contrib. builds on Solaris10, Solaris8/9 are available

2007-03-05 Thread Dave Lin
Please do NOT reply to this address. If you have any problems, feel free to send email to desktop dash discuss at opensolaris dot org Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 contrib. builds on Solaris10, Solaris8/9 are now available on www.mozilla.com It's now much easier to get the latest contributed build on So

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
IMHO, adding new frameworks to the OS in order to work around legal issues is a fundamentally flawed motivation and can lead to duplication, added maintenance burden, confusion among developers and other problems. While there are purely technical advantages of a generic usermode driver framew

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Freeman . Liu
UNIX admin wrote: Hi, everyone, I would like to start a project to enable running a driver in usr mode as an application. Are you sure? What about performance, i.e. user-level vs. kernel-level? I have a prototype for audio and no difference for the audio quality. As the cpu utilizat

Re: dtksh status / was: Re: [osol-discuss] About CDE bugs, errors

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Roland Mainz wrote: As I said... if dtksh cannot be fixed using an upgrade it should be removed ASAP. dtksh is actually one of the parts of CDE identified during the currently ongoing CDE EOF process as forming part of the public/stable API/ABI of CDE, since we know third party scripts have bee

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Freeman . Liu
Gaopeng Chen - Sun China wrote: Sounds good. Any concrete ideas? Is it for all devices or just part of them? Seems it's difficult to directly make a set of generic interfaces available for all devices. How about implementing the sub-interfaces for each domain, and then gather and think about the

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mar 5, 2007, at 23:17, Shawn Walker wrote: I cannot possibly agree more with this statement. This only further supports Stephen Lau's post about why the OGB shouldn't be intimately involved in the day-to-day processes of the community (please read the full blog post here: http://whacked.net/

[osol-discuss] Eye Candy for Solaris's Desktop - Compiz on Solaris x86

2007-03-05 Thread De Togni Giacomo
I little guide to install compiz on Solaris x86 written by Erwann Chénedé. Please,this is only a link.If you have any issue,ask to Erwann in the original thread in desktop >> discuss forum. Thank you. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=25590&tstart=0 Giacomo _

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Perhaps if various open-source OS communities could agree on a least common denominator license (ideally, read BSD) for UDI drivers that weren't encumbered by hardware spec NDAs, that might revive the idea. It would put everyone on level ground, where no one group should feel like everyone else wa

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/03/07, Keith M Wesolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: have very many contributors. In the long run, this suggests that per-Community representation may someday be needed a la the United States Senate. In the short run, it suggests that some communities are poorly organised and led, and tho

[osol-discuss] Re: [sfwnv-discuss] Re: [sfwnv] netsnmp in /usr/sfw (fwd)

2007-03-05 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:57:54PM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: > Obviously I/we need to figure out a way to avoid mis-attributions if I'm > going to be matching and redirecting wayward posts to their proper list. I > did it one other time recently and the same thing happened then too. Sorry, Eri

[osol-discuss] Re: [sfwnv] netsnmp in /usr/sfw (fwd)

2007-03-05 Thread Eric Boutilier
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: s/Eric Boutilier/Ivan Wang/ ... Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by `/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`? ... Obviously I/we need to figure out a way to avoid mis-attributions if I'm going to be matching and redire

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Ghee Teo
Simon Phipps wrote: On Mar 5, 2007, at 20:55, Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't included.) Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with

Re: [osol-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Shawn Walker
On 06/03/07, Martin Bochnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why should JamesD not be considered a core contributor? And - if not - at least have a right to vote? p.s. The whole thing really begins to disappoint me. Maybe I'm not the only one. Martin, I agree that the current process for contributor

Re: [osol-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mar 5, 2007, at 21:54, Joerg Schilling wrote: Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Candidates who wish to accept their nomination should write to cab- [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately with a message that includes the phrase "I accept" in a suitable context. I did send an "I accept" mail

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:55:37AM +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: > But there's absolutely no consistency with that. There's no > guidelines or best practices of how to apply the membership. If one > community's interpretation of the process is easier for geting 'Core > Contributor' status compared to

Re: [osol-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Candidates who wish to accept their nomination should write to cab- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately with a message that includes the > phrase "I accept" in a suitable context. I did send an "I accept" mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it seems that is was

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mar 5, 2007, at 20:55, Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't included.) Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the OGB and not with

[osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Re: Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread UNIX admin
> Perhaps our view of the world is too simplistic also; > surely there > are projects which straddle many boundaries and > projects which have > sub projects or communities which have special > interest groups. Too simplistic? When I read all of the comments here, I thought to myself: "boy did yo

Re: [osol-discuss] Xorg on SPARC (was: Last Day for Nominations)

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Octave Orgeron wrote: Not to jump in mid way.. but I think it's a mistake for Sun not to get more framebuffers into the Xorg for SPARC. Unless we can pull out our old UPA and PCI framebuffers and use a modern Nvidia card with OpenGL accel. Otherwise, it's pretty much like slamming the door on a h

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: >> reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any >> community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't >> included.) > > Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the OGB and not > with the process itself. If the Communit

Re: [osol-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
James Dickens wrote: Hi [sorry for top posting] I'm not a core contributor, maybe I don't deserve to be. But I think I should be, I haven't submitted any actual code, probably never will, but I do my part in evangalism and helping newbies and advanced users with their problems accross all c

Re: [osol-discuss] netsnmp in /usr/sfw

2007-03-05 Thread Frank Van Der Linden
Ivan Wang wrote: Hi all, I am not sure which list this questions best belongs to, so I try here first. Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by `/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`? On my snv57, it gives "-R../lib -L/usr/sfw/lib -lnetsnmp -lgen -lpkcs11 -lkstat -lelf -lm

[osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-05 04:15]: > None of these candidates appear to have accepted their nomination. In > addition, neither have: > > Stephen Hahn I decline the nomination, although I am very grateful for the suggestion. It seems to me that I would probably fail in a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hi, Octave Orgeron wrote: Not to jump in mid way.. but I think it's a mistake for Sun not to get more framebuffers into the Xorg for SPARC. they will certainly do so, even rather soon. See http://www.martux.org/READ-ME.ascii and http://www.martux.org/marTux___OSDevCon2007.pdf Martin

Re: [osol-discuss] Scaling the open walls.

2007-03-05 Thread dan sinclair
Laura Ramsey wrote: And so...in this really long thread...is there a link to Dan's step by step process? Sounds like an excellent item... Well, I've posted a first stab at this up on my blog: http://everburning.com/news/contributing-to-opensolaris/ any feedback is appreciated. Thanks, dan

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Alan Coopersmith wrote: For Xorg on sparc, I didn't list you because you have not yet contributed anything to the X Community Sounds disappointing. And I did not provide binaries alone (Xorg for sparc including PGX, PGX24, PGX32, PGX64 and XVR-100 drivers), but also source: The Aperture-

RE: [osol-discuss] Clock synchronization in distributed servers

2007-03-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Thanks. That is correct - I was looking for Sun specific implementation (as > I am new to Solaris) synchronizing with a reference clock and a common queue > of events that can be accessed by all peer servers in the network. For > instance, does it use any specific algorithm such as Lamport's for

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Octave Orgeron
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Systems Engineer http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/sysadmin/ http://unixconsole.blogspot.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* __

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Octave Orgeron
I agree that communities/projects should be organized better. Octave --- Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > >> reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any > >> community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you > weren't > >> in

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi, Speaking as the leader of the Systems Administration community, I'd have to say that the endorsement function is a manual process and doesn't change any community processes. It's a totally manual process where you select from a list of projects to endorse. I haven't updated it in a long time a

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Casper . Dik
>I also think this is a good sign that the relationship between >Communities and Projects is not well understood by all participants. >There are times it hasn't been at all clear to me, at least. > >Perhaps getting an endorsing community needs to be a prerequisite to >setting up a project? Perha

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Martin Bochnig wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: For Xorg on sparc, I didn't list you because you have not yet contributed anything to the X Community - but I was also very unsure who to list when I generated the list of Core Contributors. I'm sure once we get going on integrating your work into

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I also think this is a good sign that the relationship between Communities and Projects is not well understood by all participants. There are times it hasn't been at all clear to me, at least. Perhaps getting an endorsing community needs to be a prerequisite to setting up a project? -- Garre

[osol-discuss] opensolaris contribution

2007-03-05 Thread José Jorge Lorenzo Vila
I want to contribute with the use of opensolaris and Sun Microsystems tecnology, but I am cuban and I can't receive a ship-it package. My internet Connection is to slow and restricted for download. I apreciate if you could do and execption with me. My Personal Profile: Name: Jose Jorge Lorenzo

RE: [osol-discuss] Clock synchronization in distributed servers

2007-03-05 Thread Srikanth
Thanks. That is correct - I was looking for Sun specific implementation (as I am new to Solaris) synchronizing with a reference clock and a common queue of events that can be accessed by all peer servers in the network. For instance, does it use any specific algorithm such as Lamport's for clock sy

[osol-discuss] Chinese Solaris User's Guide

2007-03-05 Thread bluefox78
Simplified Chinese Solaris User's Guide: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2523 Traditional Chinese Solaris User's Guide: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2524___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:25:28AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > > In this case, I think it's still a follow-on of the poor initial setup > > of Communities - instead of a Xen community, we should have a Virtualization > > community with Xen & q

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: [ ... ] In this case, I think it's still a follow-on of the poor initial setup of Communities - instead of a Xen community, we should have a Virtualization community with Xen & qemu projects. And a Zones project. And a BrandZ project. A solaris-vmwar

Re: [osol-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread James Dickens
Hi [sorry for top posting] I'm not a core contributor, maybe I don't deserve to be. But I think I should be, I haven't submitted any actual code, probably never will, but I do my part in evangalism and helping newbies and advanced users with their problems accross all communities both with my bl

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:25:28AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > In this case, I think it's still a follow-on of the poor initial setup > of Communities - instead of a Xen community, we should have a Virtualization > community with Xen & qemu projects. Completely agree. Nothing precludes the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Alan Coopersmith wrote: For Xorg on sparc, I didn't list you because you have not yet contributed anything to the X Community - but I was also very unsure who to list when I generated the list of Core Contributors. I'm sure once we get going on integrating your work into the X Community, you'll

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Bryan Cantrill
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:25:28AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > >>reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any > >>community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't > >>included.) > > > >Exactly - that's the right place to start,

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't included.) Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the OGB and not with the process itself. If the Community leaders are unr

Re: [cab-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:02:32AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > The system for choosing core contributors is notably flawed in that > it only recognizes people working with Communities, not Projects or > distros. (For instance, Roland wasn't initially listed because This is not a flaw in th

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Martin Bochnig wrote: While I am listed as (non-core-)contributor (to the PowerPC community), my main activities ([EMAIL PROTECTED], www.martux.org and http://opensolaris.org/os/project/qemu/leaders/) don't seem to count. So I am by no means a "core contributor" - okay. The system for choosin

[osol-discuss] Re: SUN_SSH and Solaris 8

2007-03-05 Thread De Togni Giacomo
[i]"If you still can not .. then try pkg-get -i openssh see http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php/openssh but all you need to do is have a patched server and pkg-get -i openssh" [/i] Yes,I see..a faster,simpler and at the end,a better solution.Thank you,Dennis. Giacomo

[osol-discuss] Re: Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
According to ""d) The election is being held per the OpenSolaris Constitution at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/governance/ Attention Voters: In order to vote in the OGB elections you must be a current Core Contributor. So please check your status at http://poll.opensolaris.org/

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Brian Nitz
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI? Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted in a bunch of compl

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Nominating ...

2007-03-05 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes: > I had been aware of > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/. [...] > Could you please accept my proposed list of names in terms of "to elect" now? > Please let me know what else I will have to do. According to that web page, it looks like "wait

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SUN_SSH and Solaris 8

2007-03-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Francesca, > I think that the official port of OpenSSH to Solaris started from 9 release. > > Before this release,you can build and/or install with help of these > articles: > > http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/installing_openssh.html > http://sunfreeware.com/openssh8.html > Or sav

[osol-discuss] Re: [sfwnv-discuss] netsnmp in /usr/sfw (fwd)

2007-03-05 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:29:39AM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: > I am not sure which list this questions best belongs to, so I try here > first. Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by > `/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`? No. On Solaris, this is generally neither n

[osol-discuss] Re: Nominating ...

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
I had been aware of http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/. What I (temporarily) did confuse is "to nominate" versus "to elect". Sorry for my error and the resulting confusion. Thanks for correcting me. Could you please accept my proposed list of names in terms of "to el

[osol-discuss] netsnmp in /usr/sfw (fwd)

2007-03-05 Thread Eric Boutilier
Re-directing to sfwnv-discuss (where the SFW consolidation people hang out.) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:51:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ivan Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [discuss] netsnmp in /usr/sfw Hi all, I am not su

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: [install-discuss] About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread Calum Benson
> The best marketing for Sun and Solaris so far came > from not marketing -- but Solaris engineers and their > blogs!!! > > "Java Desktop System". You've got to be kidding me! Well, to be slightly fair, although it's clearly a name that nobody likes, "Java Desktop System" wasn't originally a Sola

[osol-discuss] Re: Nominating ...

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Some helpful reader wrote: > >Hi Martin, > >Those folks have already been nominated. See the status page at: > >http://opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/ > Hi! Arghh, ouch. Mmmh. You mean I didn't want to nominate them, but rather wanted to _elect_ them?? How and where?? S

[osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Simon Phipps wrote: None of these candidates appear to have accepted their nomination. In addition, neither have: Alan Coopersmith I accept. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___

[osol-discuss] Nominating ...

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
... I would like to nominate the following excellent minds for election into the OpenSolaris Governing Board OGB (alphabetic order) Alan Coopersmith Jim Grisanzio Joerg Schilling Juergen Keil Rich Teer Roland Mainz I actually also wanted to vote for Al Hopper, but he has decided not to seek r

[osol-discuss] netsnmp in /usr/sfw

2007-03-05 Thread Ivan Wang
Hi all, I am not sure which list this questions best belongs to, so I try here first. Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by `/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`? On my snv57, it gives "-R../lib -L/usr/sfw/lib -lnetsnmp -lgen -lpkcs11 -lkstat -lelf -lm -ldl -lnsl -lso

[osol-discuss] Re: About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread De Togni Giacomo
"[i]And thanks all for comments for critics, ideas, and suggestions."[/i] Thanks you,Girts,thanks you for all.These open discussions,I think,are the foundations of every living community. If your demand had to fail,you could work with community for another better solution. (Don't forget,we have

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Freeman. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. Eric On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I would like to start a project to enable running a driver in usr mode as an application. By this way we can leverage source code from other OSes by

[osol-discuss] Re: About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread Girts Zeltins
After I get any info from OpenGroup I will inform. I think soon I will write e-mail. And thanks all for comments for critics, ideas, and suggestions. Kind Regards, Girts This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread James Carlson
Girts Zeltins writes: > There is no need any marketing under Solaris. There is no need marketing > under JDS, it must be GNOME. I fail to see how Open Solaris can direct Sun's marketing for Solaris or anything other Sun product. You can probably help change the name for the Open Solaris group, b

Re: [osol-discuss] why is driver xy not distributed by opensolaris

2007-03-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
kab wrote: There are many solaris drivers available under BSD license. Like the Broadcom 4401 bfe NIC driver (http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/). I can not understand why opensolaris doesn't include them by default. Err scratch my last message. What I should have said it it takes

Re: [osol-discuss] why is driver xy not distributed by opensolaris

2007-03-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
kab wrote: There are many solaris drivers available under BSD license. Like the Broadcom 4401 bfe NIC driver (http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/). I can not understand why opensolaris doesn't include them by default. It takes developers with access to the said hardware to PORT the

[osol-discuss] why is driver xy not distributed by opensolaris

2007-03-05 Thread kab
There are many solaris drivers available under BSD license. Like the Broadcom 4401 bfe NIC driver (http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/). I can not understand why opensolaris doesn't include them by default. Kevin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailin

[osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Casper . Dik
>None of these candidates appear to have accepted their nomination. In >addition, neither have: > >Alan Coopersmith >Casper Dik >Stephen Hahn >Roland Mainz >Joerg Schilling I hereby accept the nomination. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list o

Re: [osol-discuss] post

2007-03-05 Thread James Carlson
Mohamad Taha writes: > I'm newbie in solaris and I need to ask couple questions: Which version of Solaris? > 1- I'm having a problem installing gcc on my solaris, also the path is > a problem I'm getting this error: [...] > *** The command 'cc -o conftest -g conftest.c' failed. > > ***

[osol-discuss] Last Day for Nominations

2007-03-05 Thread Simon Phipps
Nominations for the forthcoming election to the OpenSolaris Governing Board close at the end of today, Monday March 5th, Pacific Time. You can see the status of the election at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/ where you will note that a number of candidates

[osol-discuss] Re: SUN_SSH and Solaris 8

2007-03-05 Thread De Togni Giacomo
Francesca, I think that the official port of OpenSSH to Solaris started from 9 release. Before this release,you can build and/or install with help of these articles: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/installing_openssh.html http://sunfreeware.com/openssh8.html Giacomo __

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Girts Zeltins wrote: I will soon sent email to OpenGroup to talk about CDE open sourcing in this year and I want to think what will Sun do if CDE will be fully open sourced. I think then CDE will revive and there will be possible faster to improove it by community. I'

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN_SSH and Solaris 8

2007-03-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Francesca wrote: Hi all, can someone please tell me if it is available a version of Sun_SSH for Solaris 8, or if only Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 include a sun version of ssh? There are some doc where I can find FORMALLY this information? Moreover, which versions of Sun_SSH (for every OS) are now

[osol-discuss] Re: newbie - kstat help please - bytes not updated for my NIC on an x86

2007-03-05 Thread Gregor
ok i've moved the request - netstat doesn't seem to give me a byte count - i am trying to figure out how busy my card is thanks gregor This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] SUN_SSH and Solaris 8

2007-03-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Francesca wrote: Hi all, can someone please tell me if it is available a version of Sun_SSH for Solaris 8, or if only Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 include a sun version of ssh? There are some doc where I can find FORMALLY this information? Here: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/

[osol-discuss] SUN_SSH and Solaris 8

2007-03-05 Thread Francesca
Hi all, can someone please tell me if it is available a version of Sun_SSH for Solaris 8, or if only Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 include a sun version of ssh? There are some doc where I can find FORMALLY this information? Moreover, which versions of Sun_SSH (for every OS) are now available? Thanks,

[osol-discuss] Re: About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello all, At first: There is no need any marketing under Solaris. There is no need marketing under JDS, it must be GNOME. If you choose diferent theme than Sun own then it there is still marketing Start Menu of GNOME (JDS). There is need to make new project CDE and where people can in Discussi

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
s/www.project.udi.org/www.projectudi.org/ This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI? Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted in a bunch of compliant drivers being produced.

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: [install-discuss] About Solaris (mistakes) and future

2007-03-05 Thread UNIX admin
> Yeah, the use of 'JDS' is rather unfortunate, and > something that we're moving > slowly away from. Unfortunate also, that it's in just > about everything we've > touched over the last couple of years, so it's going > to be a slow progressive > move [eg. not that easy to entirely move > os/projec

Re: [osol-discuss] Y2K7 update?

2007-03-05 Thread Ben Rockwood
Lloyd Staley Jr wrote: Hi, While not as precise as Dennis' answer a quick and dirty one: zdump -v $TZ | grep 2007 On my B56 system it shows: alpha% zdump -v $TZ | grep 2007 US/Pacific Mon Mar 5 03:07:34 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 4 19:07:34 2007 PST isdst=0 US/Pacific Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 20

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread UNIX admin
> Hi, everyone, > > I would like to start a project to enable running a > driver in usr mode > as an application. Are you sure? What about performance, i.e. user-level vs. kernel-level? > By this way we can leverage source code from other > OSes by converting them > into Solaris user applicatio