[osol-discuss] BeleniX 0.4.4 now available

2006-07-10 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Hi Folks, After some gap another BeleniX revision is now available. The following are some of the stuff that goes into this release: * Upgraded to the OpenSolaris source snapshot: 20060626. * The most important feature of this release is the development of an I/O scheduler for the HSFS modul

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: desktop responsiveness: solaris vs linux

2006-07-10 Thread Paul Gress
Patrick wrote: ok, that sounds logical, but i just did a dmesg and i get this pertaining to the CD drive: Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 640982 kern.info] ATAPI device at targ 0, lun 0 lastlun 0x0 Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 846691 kern.info] model MATSHITADVD

[osol-discuss] Re: desktop responsiveness: solaris vs linux

2006-07-10 Thread Patrick
ok, that sounds logical, but i just did a dmesg and i get this pertaining to the CD drive: Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 640982 kern.info] ATAPI device at targ 0, lun 0 lastlun 0x0 Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 846691 kern.info] model MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-845S Jul

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-10 Thread Laszlo (Laca) Peter
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 20:07 -0700, Rich Teer wrote: > Hi all, > > Given that GNOME is Sun's forward direction for windowing environments, I > have been trying to use it more often Well done (: > (the photo previewer in Nautilus > makes this easier to do!). The trouble is, as a long-term CDE use

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: CIFS client

2006-07-10 Thread freeman liu
This is a excited project. I'm fed up with ftp to solaris from windows system to share files. My question is, when can I get a prototype to try it ? Actaully, I have worked on linux filesystem and I would like to make some contribution. But I failed to find the project by "smbfs". I think there'

[osol-discuss] Getting dtterm to play nicely with GNOME 2.14...

2006-07-10 Thread Rich Teer
Hi all, Given that GNOME is Sun's forward direction for windowing environments, I have been trying to use it more often (the photo previewer in Nautilus makes this easier to do!). The trouble is, as a long-term CDE user, there are several major road blocks to my doing this. At the top of the lis

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Russ Blaine
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I could be wrong, but I don't think Solaris is being developed with an aim, or any slightest interest, to reach out to Windows/Linux users. Again, I could be wrong, but everything I have experienced (except BeleniX, but how much support is it geting?) tells me that I am n

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Wireless USB Support

2006-07-10 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Colin. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. Eric On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Colin Zou wrote: This project will deliver a framework (including a security sub-framework), some device drivers and a config tool to support wireless USB on opensolaris. Wireless USB (WUSB),

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cdrecord 2.01.01a11 in the latest snv ?

2006-07-10 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Phi N. Tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cdrecord 2.01.01.a10 will be in snv 44. Since a11 just came out yesterday, > it'll take a couple of builds to get it in since the cdrecord releases come > out > pretty fast sometimes. This is no problem. The main source change was to supress a warning

[osol-discuss] Re: Cdrecord 2.01.01a11 in the latest snv ?

2006-07-10 Thread Phi N. Tran
cdrecord 2.01.01.a10 will be in snv 44. Since a11 just came out yesterday, it'll take a couple of builds to get it in since the cdrecord releases come out pretty fast sometimes. Phi This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss m

[osol-discuss] bge and checksum offload

2006-07-10 Thread james s. edele
We have software that requires the checksum offload feature to be disabled with any Solaris release to work. We modify packets and recompute the checksum using an algorthim that uses the differences to update the checksum. With Solaris 10, we have observed checksum errors in the IP header when us

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dave Miner
Dennis Clarke wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: Rich Teer wrote: - numlock on by default Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that. If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will be happ

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Rich Teer wrote: - numlock on by default >>> >>> Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state >>> of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that. >>> If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will >>> be

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Casper . Dik
>Or would it perhaps make more sense to have the install program(s) do a >better job of processing input? For the most part, there are very few >valid keys for each input. Instead of echo'ing garbage to the screen, >why not print a message, or beep, or do nothing Yes; the install progra

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Stephen Lau
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Rich Teer wrote: - numlock on by default Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that. If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will be happy. Overriding the B

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Carisdad
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Rich Teer wrote: - numlock on by default Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that. If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will be happy. Overriding t

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Rich Teer wrote: - numlock on by default Not a fan of this; many systems allow one to set the default state of the Num lock key, and I think the installer should honour that. If the installer honours the system setting, I think everyone will be happy. Overriding the BIOS setting to force numl

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
> The aim is for developers. Since ATI and nVidia control the majority > of the market, we should get your friend's problem fixed. I was able to walk him through the whole process just fine and it really came down to a misunderstanding. He saw that basic GRUB screen and assumed that graphics sup

Re: [osol-discuss] Introduction into Nexenta Zones

2006-07-10 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:48 -0700, Edward Pilatowicz wrote: > hey erast, > this is pretty sweet. > > after looking at the steps you have for creating zones i just wanted > to mention you could eliminate the zonecfg "remove inherit-pkg-dir ..." > steps by using the blank template to create your zon

[osol-discuss] Re: The Eighth Meeting of the Sydney Open Solaris User Group

2006-07-10 Thread McBofh
Alan Hargreaves wrote: Date: Thursday, July 6 Time: 6:30pm Location: Sun Solution (formerly iForce) Centre. Ground floor 33 Berry St, North Sydney See http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/sosug for a link to a map. Speakers First Birthday Party Food & Drink available, b

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> Simply put, a friend of mine tried to install Solaris and gave up because >> he >> was convinced that the graphics card and keyboard were not supported. >> Forget MAC and the fact that there are digits on the QWERTY keyboard >> across >> the top ro

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Stephen Harpster
The aim is for developers.  Since ATI and nVidia control the majority of the market, we should get your friend's problem fixed.  W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Recently I had a friend ask me why his ATI graphics card was not working with Solaris 10 Update 2. I asked him what kind of machi

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: > not any longer ... see message from Jan Setje-Eilers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on that issue. Yep, saw that... -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

[osol-discuss] Re: the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > Recently I had a friend ask me why his ATI graphics > card was not working > with Solaris 10 Update 2. I asked him what kind of > machine it was and it > turned out to be some common dog hardware. Nothing > fancy. But he was > convinced that the graphics card was being ignored > because the

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: Simply put, a friend of mine tried to install Solaris and gave up because he was convinced that the graphics card and keyboard were not supported. Forget MAC and the fact that there are digits on the QWERTY keyboard across the top row. The average user

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Your a rare bird. Rare?! Casper is unique! :-) -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich ___ opensolaris-di

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Alan Hargreaves wrote: > >> I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that should >> be >> *really* simple to do something about. >> >> - graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd > > Great idea. not any longer ... see message from Jan Setje-Eilers <

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since PCs have a default "Numlock on" setting, I see no reason to > enforce this in Solaris; certainly not at the detriment of people who > go out of their way to disable it or who hit numlock as soon as they see > the numlock light come on. As some

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Alan Hargreaves wrote: > I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that should be > *really* simple to do something about. > > - graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd Great idea. > - numlock on by default Not a fan of this; many systems allow on

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> He is right handed and like a lot of right handed people he simply moved >> his >> hand to the numeric keypad and hit the "1" key. But the numlock option on >> the keyboard is not on when you boot the Solaris CDROM and thus he got >> "garbage". Since the backspace key has never worked right h

Re: [osol-discuss] Introduction into Nexenta Zones

2006-07-10 Thread Edward Pilatowicz
hey erast, this is pretty sweet. after looking at the steps you have for creating zones i just wanted to mention you could eliminate the zonecfg "remove inherit-pkg-dir ..." steps by using the blank template to create your zone. ie, in zonecfg do "create -b". Then the zone won't have the inherit

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
>>Yes ... I mean the numlock option is ON and the numeric keypad >>on normal PC style keyboards works as digits not arrorws because >>we already have a separate keypad for arrows on the keyboard. > > We also have separate digits keys; they layout of the standard > four arrows is awkward at best. >

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Jan Setje-Eilers
> He is right handed and like a lot of right handed people he simply moved his > hand to the numeric keypad and hit the "1" key. But the numlock option on > the keyboard is not on when you boot the Solaris CDROM and thus he got > "garbage". Since the backspace key has never worked right he got mo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: format : rpm is obsolete ?

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> Gee, when did this happen ? >> >> Warning: rpm is obsolete for this device and will be >> ignored. >> Warning: number of alternate sectors per cylinder is >> obsolete for this >> device and will be ignored. >> >> I have an old old disk here that I generally specify >> this sort of thing : >> >>

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Casper . Dik
>Yes ... I mean the numlock option is ON and the numeric keypad >on normal PC style keyboards works as digits not arrorws because >we already have a separate keypad for arrows on the keyboard. We also have separate digits keys; they layout of the standard four arrows is awkward at best. >> Ifyou

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread John Martinez
On Jul 10, 2006, at 2:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, absolutely. And it could even do what windows does when you mistype your password; it will tell you when capslock was on. Mac OS X does this as well at the login screen and other places. -john _

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread John Martinez
On Jul 10, 2006, at 5:15 AM, Calum Benson wrote: On 10 Jul 2006, at 10:34, Darren J Moffat wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On MacOS X there is no way to ever change the state of NumLock is is always On. Even on a Sun Type 6. So, MacOS X is broken. What else is new. Personally I disagre

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
> >>I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that >>should be *really* simple to do something about. >> >>- graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd >>- numlock on by default >> >>What do others think? > > > If you mean "we'd like to switch numlock on by default"; > I thi

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Calum Benson
On 10 Jul 2006, at 10:34, Darren J Moffat wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere. I use them all the time. I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like a Sun type 6/7 even

[osol-discuss] Re: format : rpm is obsolete ?

2006-07-10 Thread UNIX admin
> > Gee, when did this happen ? > > Warning: rpm is obsolete for this device and will be > ignored. > Warning: number of alternate sectors per cylinder is > obsolete for this > device and will be ignored. > > I have an old old disk here that I generally specify > this sort of thing : > > newfs

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely changing it strikes me as a "wanton change"; making it configurable is fine with me; changing the default is not. Especially since PCs have a firmware setting which can be controlled; Solaris should not override that firmware setting. I'm

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Casper . Dik
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Surely changing it strikes me as a "wanton change"; making it configurable >> is fine with me; changing the default is not. Especially since PCs have >> a firmware setting which can be controlled; Solaris should not override >> that firmware setting. > >I'm not assert

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely changing it strikes me as a "wanton change"; making it configurable is fine with me; changing the default is not. Especially since PCs have a firmware setting which can be controlled; Solaris should not override that firmware setting. I'm not asserting we should

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Casper . Dik
>> So, MacOS X is broken. What else is new. > >Personally I disagree and I think they got it correct. On an Apple >keyboard there is no NumLock button. If a keyboard has a numlock button and Mac OSX doesn't support it; MacOS X is broken. I wonder how you can even argue against that. I'm not

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere. I use them all the time. I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like a Sun type 6/7 even needs the different states. On MacOS X there is

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Casper . Dik
>On the other hand I never use the pageup/pagedown on the numeric >keypad because all those keys exist elsewhere. I use them all the time. >I don't even really understand why a full size keyboard like >a Sun type 6/7 even needs the different states. > >On MacOS X there is no way to ever change

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that should be *really* simple to do something about. - graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd - numlock on by default What do others think? If you mean "we'd like to switch numlock on by default";

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Casper . Dik
>I think Dennis has a good point. We are looking at two issues that >should be *really* simple to do something about. > >- graphic background for grub on install cd/dvd >- numlock on by default > >What do others think? If you mean "we'd like to switch numlock on by default"; I think I'm ging to

Re: [osol-discuss] the grubby looking install process

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: Can we take the current nice blue login screen graphic and snap it into the GRUB splash screen No - it uses too many colors and has things in the wrong places, which is why a special version was created for grub, which is used for the grub installed on disk after the instal