Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread David J. Orman
On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:08 PM, James Carlson wrote: I'm a bit confused about what you want. Achieving those standards means a high degree of attention to detail. It's not just grabbing the latest and greatest source, typing 'make', and tossing it over a wall. There's a _large_ amount of work t

Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

2006-06-16 Thread Casper . Dik
>I've just (live) upgraded from build 36 to build 41 and I have a couple >of observations: > >The nVidia driver in the source BE still gets mucked up. > >The machine is now a brick. Must be a ZFS change, I see > >cannot mount '/export/home1': directory is not empty No, this is a liveupgrade bug;

Re: [osol-discuss] Why is newfs and ufsdump so much slower in single user mode than in run level 3?

2006-06-16 Thread Casper . Dik
>Steven Sim wrote: >> Hello; >> >> I frequently conduct the following operation; >> >> #ufsdump 0f - | (cd /mnt; ufsrestore xf -) >> >> I have noticed that the above takes place so much slower in single user >> mode than in multi user mode. >> >> A newfs operation on a local block device is

Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

2006-06-16 Thread Ian Collins
Richard Lowe wrote: > Ian Collins wrote: > >> I've just (live) upgraded from build 36 to build 41 and I have a couple >> of observations: >> >> The nVidia driver in the source BE still gets mucked up. >> >> The machine is now a brick. Must be a ZFS change, I see >> >> cannot mount '/export/home1'

[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] ON build 42

2006-06-16 Thread Stephen Lau
Nice job to the Nexenta team... only a couple of comments: - After finishing the download of packages, it prompted me to switch into single user. I said "Yes", but it continued with the upgrade in multi-user anyway. - Upon booting, I see the new 20060615 (b42) kernel (yay!), but the asy drive

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, David J. Orman wrote: > > Yes it does. Have you not heard of Blastwave.org? > > Rich, I have a lot of respect for you, did half of my email get cut off? Only by my overly tired and hurried brain, for which I apologise. :-/ > Blastwave doesn't do it for me, simply because

Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

2006-06-16 Thread James Carlson
Richard Lowe writes: > Live upgrade will create directories for all mount points, even those > under other mount points. ZFS will not mount over a non-empty directory. > > Removing the spurious directories should take care of that. Yep. This is CR 6376420. -- James Carlson, KISS Network

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread James Carlson
David J. Orman writes: > With developers who can make such amazing things as ZFS/Dtrace/etc, > why is it SO hard to pick a package format, setup some guidelines > and routines > , setup a maintenence schedule (updates/new features and > bug/security fixes), and start work. The community could easi

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread Eric Enright
On 6/16/06, Stephen Harpster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are your complaints that the open source software we have is old, or is your complaint about how an administrator goes about keeping software up to date? In build 41 you'll see we've brought Gnome up to 2.14. A lot of the apps have been

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread David J. Orman
> Hmmm... Blastwave isn't the only wget (and therefore pkg-get) > service around. :) Steve Christensen's SunFreeware site > (http://www.sunfreeware.com) has been around for 14 years, and > also supports pkg-get access. Used it too. :) Thanks for mentioning another excellent tool. > Not speakin

Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

2006-06-16 Thread Richard Lowe
Ian Collins wrote: I've just (live) upgraded from build 36 to build 41 and I have a couple of observations: The nVidia driver in the source BE still gets mucked up. The machine is now a brick. Must be a ZFS change, I see cannot mount '/export/home1': directory is not empty followed by an exp

[osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

2006-06-16 Thread Ian Collins
I've just (live) upgraded from build 36 to build 41 and I have a couple of observations: The nVidia driver in the source BE still gets mucked up. The machine is now a brick. Must be a ZFS change, I see cannot mount '/export/home1': directory is not empty followed by an explanation of the fix

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread Bill Walker - Sun Principal Engineer
Hmmm... Blastwave isn't the only wget (and therefore pkg-get) service around. :) Steve Christensen's SunFreeware site (http://www.sunfreeware.com) has been around for 14 years, and also supports pkg-get access. Not speaking in any way for Sun, but I *like* having these folks managing the OSS

[osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres & Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

2006-06-16 Thread Alan DuBoff
This month at the Silicon Valley OpenSolaris user group we have Josh Berkus speaking on the Postgres database and how it relates to Solaris/OpenSolaris. Postgres has been added into Solaris/OpenSolaris, which some folks are not aware of yet. It is now included in both Solaris and OpenSolaris. Yo

[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] ON build 42

2006-06-16 Thread Erast Benson
NexentaOS build42 available in "elatte-unstable" APT repository now. This is first time we are trying to utilize Nexenta Live Upgrades for ON core packages. I took some screenshots of the process here: http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki/ErastBenson/Core_Upgrades Erast On Thu, 2006-

Re: [osol-discuss] Why is newfs and ufsdump so much slower in single user mode than in run level 3?

2006-06-16 Thread Bart Smaalders
Steven Sim wrote: Hello; I frequently conduct the following operation; #ufsdump 0f - | (cd /mnt; ufsrestore xf -) I have noticed that the above takes place so much slower in single user mode than in multi user mode. A newfs operation on a local block device is also much slower in single u

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread David J. Orman
> Yes it does. Have you not heard of Blastwave.org? Rich, I have a lot of respect for you, did half of my email get cut off? "Blastwave fills this void pretty well, but it's not Sun supported." <-- one of the points made. Also, in my original mail: "Now, I run Solaris on my servers. Guess wha

[osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread Bob Palowoda
> Are your complaints that the open source software > we have is old, or is your complaint about how an > administrator goes about keeping software up to > date? > > In build 41 you'll see we've brought Gnome up to > 2.14. A lot of the apps have been > updated as well. Steve Christensen has also

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, David J. Orman wrote: > So, I can click a button/type a command, and have Solaris install mysql > 5.0.22, the latest/least buggy/most secure version of postgresql, latest/most > stable/etc apache, php 5, all the php5 modules I want, etc. OKayyy. > If I can't, then Sola

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread David J. Orman
- Original Message - From: Stephen Harpster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:30 am Subject: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues > Are your complaints that the open source software we have is > old, or is your complaint about how an administrator goes about > k

[osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread Stephen Harpster
Are your complaints that the open source software we have is old, or is your complaint about how an administrator goes about keeping software up to date? In build 41 you'll see we've brought Gnome up to 2.14. A lot of the apps have been updated as well. Steve Christensen has also been working

[osol-discuss] Re: Problems booting Solaris (10 01/06, NV_33) on HP Pavilion dv8000

2006-06-16 Thread sean walmsley
I tried installing snv_41 to produce the requested scanpci output, and lo and behold my HP nc6230 laptop booted up properly right from the DVD! Looking at the bug list, I see that bug 6401605 is marked as fixed, and I'd tend to agree. This is great - I'm back in business with Solaris on my HP la

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: IPsec Tunnel Reform

2006-06-16 Thread Philip Brown
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 09:51:31AM +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: > Philip Brown wrote: > > actually, it isnt all that great in non-tunnel mode either. We couldnt get > > it working between solaris 9 and windows xp servers, fyi. > > > > I'd like to see THAT be 100% interoperable first, personally.

[osol-discuss] revisiting software issues

2006-06-16 Thread David J. Orman
Well, it's been a month or two since the last time I brought this up, but I've seen no progress being made or even further discussion concerning the issues I raised originally. Is it possible we could get a status report, as I'm hopeful Sun *is* working on this. Basically, I've sent in mails fr

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Google Earth

2006-06-16 Thread UNIX admin
> I wonder if the people at Microsoft will port MSIE 7 > to Solaris. Don't > laugh. The penetration of MSIE 7 into the user space > will be huge and > having it on Solaris would be a win. At one time Microsoft would not support the Amiga platform, at that time the #1 home, multimedia and person

[osol-discuss] Re: Google Earth

2006-06-16 Thread UNIX admin
> Hear, hear! > > Or, how about a Java version? Write once, run > anywhere, and all that jazz... NOW THERE is a perfectly good and fast way to make an application run like crap. Java! Only ASP.NET is worse... This message posted from opensolaris.org _

[osol-discuss] Why is newfs and ufsdump so much slower in single user mode than in run level 3?

2006-06-16 Thread Steven Sim
Hello; I frequently conduct the following operation; #ufsdump 0f - | (cd /mnt; ufsrestore xf -) I have noticed that the above takes place so much slower in single user mode than in multi user mode. A newfs operation on a local block device is also much slower in single user mode than in ru

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: smc missing in snv 41?

2006-06-16 Thread Nicolas Linkert
Once it is enabled: STATE STIMEFMRI online 19:44:05 svc:/application/smcwbem:default 19:44:05 1199 smcboot 19:44:05 1200 smcboot 19:44:05 1201 smcboot But I am getting the same error message once it is started as posted

[osol-discuss] [Fwd: Media Coverage: IT Jungle]

2006-06-16 Thread Laura Ramsey
Lovely Article --thanks to Sun PR team! LKR --- Begin Message --- Hi all: Yesterday Chris Ratcliffe and Stephen Harpster met with Timothy Prickett-Morgan of IT Jungle on the record, to discuss the OpenSolaris one-year anniversary. Below please find the neutral to positive story as a resul

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: IPsec Tunnel Reform

2006-06-16 Thread Paul Wernau
Solaris 9 (and higher) and Windows IKE definitely interoperate in Transport Mode and there are many people who use this configuration routinely. There are subtle configuration problems that can get people frustrated, however. These SunSolve articles (which are very long due to Windows screensh

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: IPsec Tunnel Reform

2006-06-16 Thread Darren J Moffat
Philip Brown wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:53:01PM -0700, Dan McDonald wrote: Hello OpenSolaris folks! I would like to open an OpenSolaris project - IPsec Tunnel Reform. Please read on if you'd like to learn more about the project. The IPsec implementation in Solaris interoperates very w

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Solaris on Intel Macs??

2006-06-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jan, Thursday, April 13, 2006, 11:56:29 PM, you wrote: >> JSE> There's an (supposedly dangerously) hacked ata driver floating around JSE> that makes this work OK. Please contact me off-line if you'd like a JSE> copy of it. The bug that covers this is: JSE> 5031379 Toshiba MK6021GAS fall