Re: [osol-discuss] BugZilla for OpenSplaris projects ?

2006-05-04 Thread Ian Collins
Roland Mainz wrote: >Hi! > > > >Is there somewhere a BugZilla[1] which can be used for OpenSolaris >projects ? If there is no such installation - could genunix.org host >such a beast ? > >[1]=I am asking explicitly for "BugZilla" for several reasons... please >no "which-bugtracking-system-is-t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Asus A7V8X-X LAN Setup

2006-05-04 Thread Eric Enright
On 5/4/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sure you know what I meant. What's been > bothering me is that, most MB makers use the same > embedded NIC, but the Solaris developers seem > extremely persistent not to include the > implementation (detection & installation) of this > driv

[osol-discuss] Re: Asus A7V8X-X LAN Setup

2006-05-04 Thread John Brewer
Also what did the scanpci report? Check the Asus web site http://support.asus.com.tw/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us Contact there support to voice your opinions on using Solaris and would like there Eng. to have evolvement with OpenSolaris! This message posted from opensolaris.org _

[osol-discuss] BugZilla for OpenSplaris projects ?

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Hi! Is there somewhere a BugZilla[1] which can be used for OpenSolaris projects ? If there is no such installation - could genunix.org host such a beast ? [1]=I am asking explicitly for "BugZilla" for several reasons... please no "which-bugtracking-system-is-the-better-one"-flamewar... --

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread Ian Collins
Matty wrote: > >> I don't want to expand upon the issues I face with Solaris 10 (01/06), >> considering the nastiness I received on the yahoo mailing list; lets >> just say that compared to even Windows XP, the experience as a >> workstation 'user' has been less than desirable - any attempt my me

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Matty wrote: I don't want to expand upon the issues I face with Solaris 10 (01/06), considering the nastiness I received on the yahoo mailing list; lets just say that compared to even Windows XP, the experience as a workstation 'user' has been less than desirable - any attempt my me in th

Re: [osol-discuss] Adding C99 features to an existing sharedlibrary...

2006-05-04 Thread Ian Collins
Roland Mainz wrote: >Ian Collins wrote: > > >>>Does anyone know whether it is possible to use C99 features in a shared >>>library which is used by older applications ? >>> >>>For example would it be possible to use C99 features such as |int >>>getrpcbynumber(int arg1, /* ... */) { char buff[arg1

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Grisanzio writes: Regarding ARC cases ... two community members (Cyril Plisko, Robert Milkowski) initiated ARC cases and participated in the review process. Both have resulted in putbacks to OpenSolaris, and there is a third in the works from Rich Teer. To give

[osol-discuss] 1 new request-sponsor putback: 51 total

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Thanks to Henry Grebler for this fix below and to Dan Groves for sponsoring the work through to putback: Putback 51 ID: 6414610 Desc: logadm should wait to run gzip Submitted by Henry Grebler on 4/17/06 Sun Sponsor: Dan Groves Putback to Nevada 40 5/1/06 Since we launched, 377 bugs have been re

Re: CDDL & build environment (Was Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell])

2006-05-04 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then doesn't that just make the CDDL the very GPL like ? It would still allow people to use CDDLd sources together with any other type of code. > My understanding of the CDDL is that is as deliberately a file based > license and as such the clause yo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread lianep
Jim Grisanzio writes: > Regarding ARC cases ... two community members (Cyril Plisko, Robert > Milkowski) initiated ARC cases and participated in the review process. > Both have resulted in putbacks to OpenSolaris, and there is a third in > the works from Rich Teer. To give appropriate credit

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Dave Miner wrote: Matty wrote: I don't want to expand upon the issues I face with Solaris 10 (01/06), considering the nastiness I received on the yahoo mailing list; lets just say that compared to even Windows XP, the experience as a workstation 'user' has been less than desirable - any attempt

[osol-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Jasse Jansson
On May 4, 2006, at 9:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also no safe way to remove the "[XXX]" stuff. I've asked around on IRC and the common warning is that this will break "Subject:"- lines in non-ASCII encodings. Please simply leave the tags alone - IMO all the discussion turns

Re: Sunray virtual console / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Virtual Console

2006-05-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Roland Mainz wrote: Well, the idea would be to have multiple Xservers per smart card. There is non-smartcard session mobility which may be useful here - I don't know enough about it to say. But this is still all off in Sun Ray software area, not anything that can or should be done in OpenSola

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >+1... I agree... people who have problems with that should use local > >filters to get rid of the [XXX] stuff if they do not like them. And for > >Mozilla and Thunderbird there is always the method to employ CSS and/or > >XSLT to do such stuff. > > People who like th

Sunray virtual console / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Virtual Console

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > > What do you mean with "coherent console support" ? Will SPARC (and maybe > > even the SunRays) support multiple Xservers + multiple consoles ? > > This project is completely separate from Sun Ray, since a change like that > would have to be in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Fujitsu's position to OpenSolaris?

2006-05-04 Thread Daniel Rock
UNIX admin schrieb: SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic 64-bit Copyright 1983-2005 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Well, at least from the above we know that the kernel boots. The rest appears to be a problem with one of the kernel (fs) modules. W

Re: [website-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Roland Mainz wrote: There is also no safe way to remove the "[XXX]" stuff. I've asked around on IRC and the common warning is that this will break "Subject:"-lines in non-ASCII encodings. Please simply leave the tags alone - IMO all the discussion turns to the point that the tag removal is b

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Virtual Console

2006-05-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Roland Mainzwrote: What do you mean with "coherent console support" ? Will SPARC (and maybe even the SunRays) support multiple Xservers + multiple consoles ? This project is completely separate from Sun Ray, since a change like that would have to be in the Sun Ray Server and/or Firmware, not an

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 5/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been subscribed to many lists without subject tags. Oh, I hate subject tags too. But, the problem is that once the list is created, it's not appropriate to remove the tags. Those types of decisions should have been made when the lis

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Casper . Dik
>+1... I agree... people who have problems with that should use local >filters to get rid of the [XXX] stuff if they do not like them. And for >Mozilla and Thunderbird there is always the method to employ CSS and/or >XSLT to do such stuff. People who like the tags should use local filters to add

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Virtual Console

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Riny Qian wrote: > > The Virtual Console project would provide multiple consoles and > > switch between Xserver and consoles for Solaris. There are two areas > > of work envisioned: > > > > 1. Multiple consoles > > 2. Switch between Xserver and consoles > > > > This projec

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Virtual Console

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Riny Qian wrote: > Chris Ricker wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Riny Qian wrote: > > > > > >>We're just starting the investigation. And any ideas/comments are > >>welcome! A project webpage for this project will be published soon. > > > > > > Great, is this project going to be Sparc, x86, or both?

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Casper . Dik
>There is also no safe way to remove the "[XXX]" stuff. I've asked around >on IRC and the common warning is that this will break "Subject:"-lines >in non-ASCII encodings. >Please simply leave the tags alone - IMO all the discussion turns to the >point that the tag removal is both unneccasary and e

Re: [osol-discuss] Adding C99 features to an existing sharedlibrary...

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Ian Collins wrote: > >Does anyone know whether it is possible to use C99 features in a shared > >library which is used by older applications ? > > > >For example would it be possible to use C99 features such as |int > >getrpcbynumber(int arg1, /* ... */) { char buff[arg1]; /* ... */ }| in a > >libr

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread Dave Miner
Matty wrote: I don't want to expand upon the issues I face with Solaris 10 (01/06), considering the nastiness I received on the yahoo mailing list; lets just say that compared to even Windows XP, the experience as a workstation 'user' has been less than desirable - any attempt my me in the past

Re: Main OS/Net repository - based on "Subversion" or "Mercurial" ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-04 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 5/2/06, Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, both FreeBSD and NetBSD currently use CVS for their projects and while there are "known issues" with CVS, so far evaluations of other tools (ie. SVN) have failed to produce compelling reasons to switch. Almost all FreeBSD developers use th

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 14:57, Roland Mainz wrote: > Please simply leave the tags alone - IMO all the discussion turns to the > point that the tag removal is both unneccasary and even hazardous in > some cases. IMHO, it's tag insertion which is unnecessary. if mailman stops inserting them, they'll

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Glynn Foster wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > > This only works for machine filtering but not when people put all emails > > from opensolaris.org in one folder and then "scan" the subjects with > > their human eyes for interesting postings. > > If you're making that argument, then you would be *much

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
James Dickens wrote: > On 5/2/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/1/06, Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The best thing a list can do is to stick with whatever choice > > > it makes when it is first created, for better or worse. The > > > worst you can do is to de

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Re: Propose removing []prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > On 5/2/06, Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As one of those who dissented from the change, I think it's a great idea > > to offer the subscribing user choice here. > > I had a brief write-up that detailed how to generally do this - but > removed it before I

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:39, Roland Mainz wrote: > > The tagging is enabled by default in the mailman configuation > > intentionally. Think about it: If it is so bad - why did the mailman > > people turn it "on" by default then ? > > if it's so good, why do many lists I'm

Re: [website-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixesin Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Glynn Foster wrote: > Andrei Dorofeev wrote: > >>Over in website-discuss, we've reached consensus that, for the site > >>lists as a whole, the various "[foo-discuss]" tags should not be > >>prepended to subject lines by default. > > > > For people (like me) who save all of their OpenSol

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: iSCSI Target

2006-05-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Rick McNeal wrote: > I would like to propose the creation of a new project page for the iSCSI > Target work. This would enable the community to gain early access to this > project before integration into Solaris Nevada is complete. > > The project currently consists of: > RFC3720 - iSCSI pro

[osol-discuss] Propose removing prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Eric Boutilier
Several days ago, I voted, thusly: Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 19:29, Andrei Dorofeev wrote: What is the reason other people want to remove them? - deals poorly with crossposting -- you get multiple tags in random orders when threads hop lists.

[osol-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Stephen Hahn
* John Plocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-03 12:02]: > Stephen Hahn wrote: > > A revised proposal has already been made: > > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=35607謗 > > This proposal seems to be > > Given that the [tags] are unordered and unpredictable in order, >

[osol-discuss] Re: Fujitsu's position to OpenSolaris?

2006-05-04 Thread UNIX admin
> SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic 64-bit > Copyright 1983-2005 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All > rights reserved. > Use is subject to license terms. Well, at least from the above we know that the kernel boots. The rest appears to be a problem with one of the kernel (fs) modules. This message

[osol-discuss] Re: Asus A7V8X-X LAN Setup

2006-05-04 Thread UNIX admin
> I am sure you know what I meant. What's been > bothering me is that, most MB makers use the same > embedded NIC, but the Solaris developers seem > extremely persistent not to include the > implementation (detection & installation) of this > driver in the "official release" (whatever that > means

[osol-discuss] Re: Interesting blog entry on Solaris 10

2006-05-04 Thread Matty
I don't want to expand upon the issues I face with Solaris 10 (01/06), considering the nastiness I received on the yahoo mailing list; lets just say that compared to even Windows XP, the experience as a workstation 'user' has been less than desirable - any attempt my me in the past to raise thes

[osol-discuss] Fujitsu's position to OpenSolaris?

2006-05-04 Thread Daniel Rock
Hi, can anyone comment what is Fujitsu's position to OpenSolaris? They also build SPARC machines but currently cannot run Solaris Nevada. I was curious because I saw populated directories in .../platform/sun4us .../platform/FJSV,GPUSK .../platform/FJSV,GPUZC-L etc. so I tried booting snv_37 on a

[osol-discuss] Re: [tools-linking] ld.so refuses to properly handle paths with colon

2006-05-04 Thread Chris Quenelle
My initial thoughts are: 1. add an escape character of some kind to insert a literal ':' 2. please make all pathnames use a consistent syntax 3. don't implement any special work arounds unless you know there are users of the feature 4. dlopen("foo:bar", RTLD_LAZY | RTLD_FULLPATH) This is r

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #10

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, A little later than usual, here's OpenSolaris Weekly News #9. As always feedback, or content [from the missing represented communities] welcome. Sorry for the need to quote - I just can't seem to get Thunderbird to do anything sensible since moving over from Evolution this week. If anyone kno

Re: Main OS/Net repository - based on "Subversion" or "Mercurial" ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-04 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Holger Berger wrote: Hello? I was talking about Mercurial support in other applications such as source browsers, search engines, backup tools, ticket generators, patch signers, splicers, bot and daemon support (for generating RSS feeds, commit emails, firewall and proxy sup

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: iSCSI Target

2006-05-04 Thread Adam Leventhal
This will be great. Thanks Rick. +1 Adam On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 07:45:52AM -0700, Rick McNeal wrote: > I would like to propose the creation of a new project page for the iSCSI > Target work. This would enable the community to gain early access to this > project before integration into Solaris

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #10

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, A little later than usual, here's OpenSolaris Weekly News #9. As always feedback, or content [from the missing represented communities] welcome. Sorry for the need to quote - I just can't seem to get Thunderbird to do anything sensible since moving over from Evolution this week. If anyone

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #10

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, A little later than usual, here's OpenSolaris Weekly News #9. As always feedback, or content [from the missing represented communities] welcome. Sorry for the need to quote - I just can't seem to get Thunderbird to do anything sensible since moving over from Evolution this week. If anyone kno

Re: [website-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Andrei Dorofeev wrote: Over in website-discuss, we've reached consensus that, for the site lists as a whole, the various "[foo-discuss]" tags should not be prepended to subject lines by default. For people (like me) who save all of their OpenSolaris mail in one file, having [] ta

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Roland Mainz wrote: This only works for machine filtering but not when people put all emails from opensolaris.org in one folder and then "scan" the subjects with their human eyes for interesting postings. If you're making that argument, then you would be *much* better removing the tags fr

[osol-discuss] Re: [website-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, John Plocher wrote: It sounds like there have been several strong -1's voiced about this proposal, which should (according to the proposed governance rules) derail this change. If there still is a strong desire for such behavior, then I propose extending the per-user mailman preferences

Re: Main OS/Net repository - based on "Subversion" or "Mercurial" ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-04 Thread Bonnie Corwin
Joerg Schilling wrote On 05/04/06 03:39,: > Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>Does this mean that Sun will stop using TeamWare? >> >> It means that, for the development release, the ON consolidation will >> stop using TeamWare. The other consolidations of Solaris and other >> pro

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #10

2006-05-04 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, A little later than usual, here's OpenSolaris Weekly News #9. As always feedback, or content [from the missing represented communities] welcome. Sorry for the need to quote - I just can't seem to get Thunderbird to do anything sensible since moving over from Evolution this week. If anyone kno

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: iSCSI Target

2006-05-04 Thread Richard Lowe
Rick McNeal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to propose the creation of a new project page for the > iSCSI Target work. This would enable the community to gain early > access to this project before integration into Solaris Nevada is > complete. > > The project currently consists of: RFC3

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: iSCSI Target

2006-05-04 Thread Cyril Plisko
On 5/4/06, Rick McNeal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to propose the creation of a new project page for the iSCSI Target work. This would enable the community to gain early access to this project before integration into Solaris Nevada is complete. The project currently consists of:

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal: iSCSI Target

2006-05-04 Thread Rick McNeal
I would like to propose the creation of a new project page for the iSCSI Target work. This would enable the community to gain early access to this project before integration into Solaris Nevada is complete. The project currently consists of: RFC3720 - iSCSI protocol SAM-3 -- SCSI archite

[osol-discuss] support for any pci-e scsi on x2100?

2006-05-04 Thread Ben Miller
I'm trying to find a pci express scsi card (non SAS) that will work with Solaris on an x2100. I'm looking for something without RAID support as I'll be using zfs with the disks on it and also attaching tape drives. Sun's web page, http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x2100/optioncards.jsp, lists t

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: JAVA iSCSI Target implementation ? / was:Re:Re:

2006-05-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The version you give in the URL http://www.alistaircrooks.co.uk/src/netbsd-iscsi-20060416.tar.gz works for me on Solaris 9 (UltraSPARC/Sun Blade 100) with the following caveats: * had to replace -pthread with -D_REENTRANT in the Makefile * had to replace -lpthread with -lthread -lpthread in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 Update II

2006-05-04 Thread James Dickens
On 5/4/06, Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know the exact answer for the following question is "when its done" - but maybe someone could be so nice and give me an estimate time frame when Solaris 10 Update II will be released? Will that happen in months, weeks or days? -- Sun annouced

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 12:20 +0200, Felix Schulte wrote: > Yeah, put my vote into the "no way" list, too. The softies who > complain should learn to write their own filter scripts to cut out the > tags and shouldn't harass the majority here with such proposals. Quite right too... why make the defa

Re: [osol-discuss] Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Felix Schulte
On 5/2/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/1/06, Darren Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The best thing a list can do is to stick with whatever choice > it makes when it is first created, for better or worse. The > worst you can do is to decide to change the behaviour at > som

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Propose removing [] prefixes in Subject

2006-05-04 Thread Felix Schulte
On 5/2/06, Bill Rushmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Over in website-discuss, we've reached consensus > that, for the site > lists as a whole, the various "[foo-discuss]" tags > should not be > prepended to subject lines by default. > Since opensolaris-discuss is the highest traffic > a

[osol-discuss] Solaris 10 Update II

2006-05-04 Thread Felix Schulte
I know the exact answer for the following question is "when its done" - but maybe someone could be so nice and give me an estimate time frame when Solaris 10 Update II will be released? Will that happen in months, weeks or days? -- _Felix Schulte _|_|_ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell]

2006-05-04 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ignacio Marambio Catán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dont understant your point, CDDL is mainly a file based license, that > means you can use a CDDL licenced file inside your closed source project > as long as you make every chance you made to that file available to the > community, why would i,

Re: Main OS/Net repository - based on "Subversion" or "Mercurial" ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Distributed source codemanagement selection, draft

2006-05-04 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does this mean that Sun will stop using TeamWare? > > It means that, for the development release, the ON consolidation will > stop using TeamWare. The other consolidations of Solaris and other > products are empowered to make independent tools cho