On 7/8/05, Danek Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+1000 - a post put far more elegantly than I could given your internal
knowledge and experience
Thanks for the mini-insight into SUN's outlook on even "small" changes!
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On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Tao Chen wrote:
> I vote for changing the default shell to a better one.
Ah, but then the question is, which one. You might choose ksh over bash
for various reasons, others might prefer tcsh, and some of us know that zsh
is the One True Shell. If nothin
On 7/7/05, Tao Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/7/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I remember there was a "library dependency" argument against changing the
> default shell for root.
> However at least in Solaris 10:
>
> # ldd /bin/sh
> libgen.so.1 => /lib/libgen.so.
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I always edit /etc/passwd manually to change root's shell to ksh and change
home to /root.
And add followings to /etc/profile:
VISUAL=vi
PS1=`uname -n`:'${PWD##*/}# '
export VISUAL PS1
This will enable vi commandline edit mode and also a nice prompt :-)
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> I remember there was a "library dependency"
> argument against changing the default shell for
> root.
/bin/bash and /bin/sh depend on exact same # libraries on solaris 10. And
/bin/sh is a link to /sbin/sh. root's (static before 10) shell and normal
bourne shell are no longer different. so root
Heya,
> Hope that makes some sense, even if you don't agree that it's the right way
> to go. Glynn, or maybe Alan, might be able to offer further words on why
> they're done that way -- maybe "The ARC made us do it". ;-)
'The ARC made us do it' ;)
Seriously though, I think the current packagin
On 7/7/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I
don't think anybody is getting your point and I think they never will,
and it is the same mentality that has cost sun bigtime in last 3 years
Considering some of the illogical arguments against changing the
default shell that we see in this dicussion, I
On 7/7/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> can you please list one such incompatibility?
Shell wise? Not specifically. But I can list a few of *many* issues
that I've had over the years when upgrading to newer Linux
distributions:
* glibc ABI changes breaking my binaries (I won't even talk abo
> The operating system on your thousands of Linux boxes
> have never had
> to worry about satisfying the needs of millions of
> customers while
> retaining backwards compatibility. It is a certainty
> that if SUN
> decided to change the default shell that at least
> some of their
> customers (if no
W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
I am wondering if anyone would be interested in discussing Solaris_86
(10 and later) vis-a-vis Linux?
I have been using Red Hat Linux since 4.2 and am very pleased, as far
as desktops are concerned, with Fedora Core 4. However, because of
several critical issues (e.g., ina
just to document the problem here: when I rebooted the kernel with 'reboot --
'kernel.mine/unix'' the file /platform/i86pc/boot_archive was updated to be
20bytes. All I did to recover from this failure was to boot in failsafe mode,
mount my root partition and remove /a/platform/i86pc/boot_archiv
Rich Teer wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Sunil wrote:
/bin/bash is compatible. our shell scripts (with #!/bin/sh at top)
Not completely so (or at least, that was the case historically).
The points of incompatibility are very small, and I've never run into one.
One thing that can be said in fav
Hey,
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:31:55PM +0100, Peter C. Tribble wrote:
> >
> >> Why on earth does gnome/jds come in 200 odd separate packages? Does the
> >> split of files make any sense?
> >
> >It does, but it's reasonably arcane, and like
I think this discussion perfectly describes current situation :-)
a) There is a large group of developers who use TW everyday, and don't want to
use CVS or SVN because ... (see mails above for details).
b) There is another group of developers who use CVS and don't want to use TW
or SVN because ..
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Sunil wrote:
> /bin/bash is compatible. our shell scripts (with #!/bin/sh at top)
Not completely so (or at least, that was the case historically).
> it fixed sooner than you would make /bin/sh POSIX compliant. People
> have put in lot of effort there.
That's great to hear.
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
> > POSIX compliance is a key feature of Solaris, I
> > wouldn't expect SUN to
> > change this.
>
> Can you please quote the part of POSIX that
> forbids having working cursor keys in a shell?
> Hint: You won't find it. There isn't any.
Is there a section tha
> Even if the Solaris bourne shell isn't POSIX
> compliant (which I have
> perhaps wrongly assumed it was), you still have the
> issue of backwards
> compatability, and that is a paramount feature in
> enterprise level
> systems.
/bin/bash is compatible. our shell scripts (with #!/bin/sh at top) fr
> I don't think anybody is getting your point and I
> think they never will,
I start to get a similar feeling.
> I have never understood why is sun still stuck with
> bourne shell as the default shell when bash has been
> a stable and compatible shell for years and is so
> popular with developer
On 7/7/05, Gerhard S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you please quote the part of POSIX that
> forbids having working cursor keys in a shell?
> Hint: You won't find it. There isn't any.
I never said that it did. But, it does require certain actions all the
way down to how the cursor behaves when
On 7/7/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think anybody is getting your point and I think they never will, and
> it is the same mentality that has cost sun bigtime in last 3 years (if only
> sun had the vision of open sourcing solaris even during or close to dotcom
> bust, it would h
> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilitie
> s/sh.html
this doc says 'set -o vi' should set vi command line editing mode. As far as I
remember, 'set -o vi' only works in ksh. So, how is /bin/sh compiliant to this
standard?
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> On 7/7/05, Gerhard S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out
> of
> > the box without adding magic commands.
>
> POSIX compliance is a key feature of Solaris, I
> wouldn't expect SUN to
> change this.
Can you please quote the part of POSIX that
forbi
I don't think anybody is getting your point and I think they never will, and it
is the same mentality that has cost sun bigtime in last 3 years (if only sun
had the vision of open sourcing solaris even during or close to dotcom bust, it
would have been opensolaris all over not linux). Doing cool
On 7/7/05, Gerhard S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out of
> the box without adding magic commands.
POSIX compliance is a key feature of Solaris, I wouldn't expect SUN to
change this.
> In what way is making broken cursor keys work
> not backward comp
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
> > > typing bash or ksh set -o emacs after every su. Not
> > very friendly.
> > So put it into root's .profile. Not exactly hard
> > work.
>
> But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out of
> the box without adding magic commands.
Solaris is not Linu
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> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
>
> > if I change the root default shell to bash. So now
> I end up
> > typing bash or ksh set -o emacs after every su. Not
> very friendly.
> So put it into root's .profile. Not exactly hard
> work.
But shouldn't be needed. In Linux it works all out of
t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just noticed today. For example, googling for "environ_base" takes you
straight to ...
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/raw/usr/src/lib/libc/port/gen/getenv.c
... of course. But still, how cool is that?!
It was indexed almost the first day, I think.
Who needs csc
On 7/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there really a good reason, though, to make GNOME more than five
> packages? As long as we don't do RPM style patches, who would install
> only M out of N GNOME packages (not to pick on GNOME, we all offend here).
>From an end user stan
So, I cap-eye-installed the kernel as kernel.mine and did reboot --
'kernel.mine/unix'. Panic with these errors:
reading beyond end of ramdisk
start=0x2000 size=0x2000
failed to read superblock
panic : can't mount boot archive
There are two filelist.ramdisk file
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 12:20:21AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there really a good reason, though, to make GNOME more than five
> packages? As long as we don't do RPM style patches, who would install
> only M out of N GNOME packages (not to pick on GNOME, we all offend here).
>
> What m
>On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:31:55PM +0100, Peter C. Tribble wrote:
>
>> Why on earth does gnome/jds come in 200 odd separate packages? Does the
>> split of files make any sense?
>
>It does, but it's reasonably arcane, and like Casper said, it suffers
>greatly from the lack of good tools to manage
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:31:55PM +0100, Peter C. Tribble wrote:
> Why on earth does gnome/jds come in 200 odd separate packages? Does the
> split of files make any sense?
It does, but it's reasonably arcane, and like Casper said, it suffers
greatly from the lack of good tools to manage it.
Eac
On 7/7/05, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Clarify, please? I don't understand this comment.
> the use of libneon (is it finally stable, after 5 years?), apache2 with
> their
> own module - or alternatively ssh+svnserve (which needs full blown
> accounts
> on the machine for every de
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
> That's fine. But why does /bin/sh not just implement
> command line editing? It's not that cursor key support
Because then it wouldn't be the Bourne Shell! Solaris takes
backwards compatibility more seriously than other OSes...
> Also why are the cursor k
> Yes, in Solaris, Sun has stuck with good old Bourne
good?
> Shell for the default root shell. For users, the
> shell is up to the administrator. The bells and
> whistles you are talking about in Linux come from
> them using BASH (Bourne Again Shell) by default.
I know this.
> of Solaris 10
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Gerhard S. wrote:
> if I change the root default shell to bash. So now I end up
> typing bash or ksh set -o emacs after every su. Not very friendly.
So put it into root's .profile. Not exactly hard work.
> Why do this not work out of the box? Now it has all this eye candy
Ba
>
> >One technical difference is that cursor keys and
> command line editing and completion generally wor
> ks out of the box in Linux and it generally doesn't
> in Solaris. I hope OpenSolaris will finally fix
> that usability issue so that it can lose that "80ies
> s feeling"
> >and be more user
>Just noticed today. For example, googling for "environ_base" takes you
>straight to ...
>
> http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/raw/usr/src/lib/libc/port/gen/getenv.c
>
>... of course. But still, how cool is that?!
It was indexed almost the first day, I think.
Who needs cscope now :-)
Casper
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:19, Shawn Walker wrote:
> I thought you were speaking of the fact that anonymous read access to
> SVN using Apache requires write access to the repository whereas
> svnserve + fsfs does not (if I remember correctly). That's what I was
> referring to anyway...
I don't even k
Just noticed today. For example, googling for "environ_base" takes you
straight to ...
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/raw/usr/src/lib/libc/port/gen/getenv.c
... of course. But still, how cool is that?!
Phil
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>Then surely the completely arbitrary way that Solaris is split into
>packages needs to be fixed.
Indeed.
>Why on earth does gnome/jds come in 200 odd separate packages? Does the
>split of files make any sense?
No; especially not considering that there's no tool which allows
you to visualize th
I think we should consider the security "capabilities" of the OS instead of the
"security settings" that that are set by default.
Solaris is very much stronger in its security features.
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Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Paul Walsh wrote:
> I remember being told by the tutor on a Solaris SysAdmin course to
> always choose "Entire distribution + OEM support" Nowadays I'm not so
I think that's very poor advice.
>>>
>>>In gen
Well, with the fixed AML the system now detects its floppy
again; not that I can check that it works, remotely, but this
is nice.
@@ -1350,13 +1350,6 @@
FDCT, 8
}
-OperationRegion (PCIC, SystemIO, 0x0CF8, 0x08)
-Field (P
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm more inclined to add an additional acpi-user-options bit
to permit users to relax the I/O permission checks. Legacy
acpi_intp had no permission check and I don't recall any
bugs filed, though any problem resulting from non-atomic access
to PCI config space is likely
>I'm more inclined to add an additional acpi-user-options bit
>to permit users to relax the I/O permission checks. Legacy
>acpi_intp had no permission check and I don't recall any
>bugs filed, though any problem resulting from non-atomic access
>to PCI config space is likely to be pretty mysterio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The system ACPI BIOS is attempting to access PCI configuration space
directly rather than using the correct PCI Config space operation regions.
This is unsafe - directly accessing config space like this is non-atomic.
The OSL implementation blocks these accesses.
Perh
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> PS: What is the status of iasl? Getting a standard Solaris iasl binary
>> out would be very helpful.
>
>Dan Mick put one at
>
> ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/dmick/iasl
>
>some time ago.
Excellent; with "iasl -g" you can extract the AML code from the
system
this is the setup I have as seen from grub.conf:
hd0,0 -> XP
hd0,1 -> OS
hd1,0 -> Linux
grub is installed from linux onto hd0. Now I can boot both linux and xp thru
grub, but OS gives the "panic: can't mount boot archives". I can mount the
partition in failsafe mode and access all data in it. B
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> PS: What is the status of iasl? Getting a standard Solaris iasl binary
> out would be very helpful.
Dan Mick put one at
ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/dmick/iasl
some time ago.
Rainer
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>The system ACPI BIOS is attempting to access PCI configuration space
>directly rather than using the correct PCI Config space operation regions.
>This is unsafe - directly accessing config space like this is non-atomic.
>The OSL implementation blocks these accesses.
Perhaps, Dana, you can give
> I would think a simple solution to that would be that
> when vt's are
> enabled, to add the ability to have the system
is the vt code still present?
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On 7/5/05, A G T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It certainly is nowadays.
> Old assembler language guys cringe at wasted bytes though ; >
Perhaps, but even as someone that used to write assembly language,
I'll take portable, easier to maintain code over something that's
extremely efficient but diffi
Joerg Schilling wrote:
If I plug in a PS/2 mouse (even after the system is booted successfully)
the keyboard becomes non-functional until the system is rebooted.
That's odd. I'll have to forward this to the keyboard/mouse team;
it doesn't sound directly related to ACPI. Though...
OK, here
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Rich Teer wrote:
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AG Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris on SPARC sans piggies
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, AG Toon wrote:
So wha
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [UTF-8] Jürgen Keil wrote:
Issue 2: CPU type is not derived correctly -- hard code/`uname -p`
-bash-3.00$ grep -n "^cpu" configure
29:cpu=`uname -m`
Under Solaris, `uname -m` returns the hardware
architecture:
$ uname -m
sun4u
I'd say that's not a problem, because two li
On 7/7/05, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Dennis,
>
> Monday, June 13, 2005, 12:56:26 AM, you wrote:
>
>
> I'm just trying it - I actuall managed to boot kernel this way, can't
> go any further 'coz ethernet driver is missing. Now I'm trying to
> change miniroot :)
>
> Anyw
> Issue 2: CPU type is not derived correctly -- hard code/`uname -p`
>
> -bash-3.00$ grep -n "^cpu" configure
> 29:cpu=`uname -m`
>
> Under Solaris, `uname -m` returns the hardware
> architecture:
>
> $ uname -m
> sun4u
I'd say that's not a problem, because two lines further down the configure
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [UTF-8] Jürgen Keil wrote:
Apropos qemu, does it work for you on b16 or b17, x86
platform?
Which version are you using? Which hardware architecture are you attempting
to build un
Hello People
I see several people here talking about the creation of communities (good,
good) but, I have a request for the web devs of Opensolaris.
Each community discussion forum should have a Sticky thread (a thread always on
top with no one but the community leader could edit) with the rule
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Calum Benson wrote:
> There's been some debate in the past about whether it's a potential
> security risk or not (since it's quite easy to leave yourself logged
> in as root on a VT and forget about it, for example-- and of course
> it's not then protected by your screensaver/l
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [UTF-8] J?rgen Keil wrote:
Apropos qemu, does it work for you on b16 or b17, x86
platform?
[snip]
when compiled with /opt/csw/gcc3/bin/gcc it starts, but does nothing. No
windows opens, and after some 10-15 minutes of frene
On 7/7/05, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7 Jul 2005, at 16:41, Sunil wrote:
> > why would anybody remove such a useful thing? how do we debug X
> > hangs for example?
>
> There's been some debate in the past about whether it's a potential
> security risk or not (since it's quite eas
On 7 Jul 2005, at 16:41, Sunil wrote:
why would anybody remove such a useful thing? how do we debug X
hangs for example?
There's been some debate in the past about whether it's a potential
security risk or not (since it's quite easy to leave yourself logged
in as root on a VT and forget
Hello Dennis,
Monday, June 13, 2005, 12:56:26 AM, you wrote:
DC> I have created a jumpstart server on both x86 and Sparc servers and
DC> both result in the same errors when I attempt to add a install client
DC> :
DC> # ./add_install_client -t /mnt/jumpstart/Solaris_11/Tools/Boot charon i86pc
DC>
On 7/7/05, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:00:30AM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> > That's not true of svn as far as the write access is concerned. At
> > least if you're using svnserve + fsfs.
> uh, how does the method with which writing to the server and stor
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:00:30AM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> That's not true of svn as far as the write access is concerned. At
> least if you're using svnserve + fsfs.
uh, how does the method with which writing to the server and storage is
done affect the general necessity to allow writing to t
On 7/7/05, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, this has been a long winding post ( as is usual from me ) and I
> am simply pouring out my thoughts here.
+1 as usual
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
You don't seem to understand that a "stable" kernel offers stable interfaces.
Linux-2.6 does not and for this reason cannot be called stable.
Can't we leave this kind of discussion to c.u.s /c.o.l.a crossposts? I
don't think we need another list to d
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Shawn Walker wrote:
On 7/7/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I probably didn't have SDL installed on my machine so it didn't
detect it. Anyway, I downloaded qemu from blastvawe testing (why does it
has CSWgcc3 as one dependency?) and am now booting the l
On 7/7/05, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 09:44, Darren Kenny wrote:
> > CVS and SVN were designed with globally spread out developers in mind -
> > TW wasn't. I think
> > this is what makes them stronger candidates as a code management system
> > for OpenSolaris
Chris Ricker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> > And BTW: it is definitely unfair to compare an instable devleopment kernel
> > from
> > Linux (2.6) with a stable Solaris-10. A fair comparison would compare
> > Linux2.6
> > with Solaris-11 or Solaris-10
On 7/7/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I probably didn't have SDL installed on my machine so it didn't
> detect it. Anyway, I downloaded qemu from blastvawe testing (why does it
> has CSWgcc3 as one dependency?) and am now booting the latest knoppix. It
> is rather slow, bu
Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/7/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Whatever it is .. it looks good. And he is a happy looking fellow isn't
> > > he?
> >
> > Should should have seen him at the time when there
"Albertson, Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, in Solaris, Sun has stuck with good old Bourne Shell for the default
> root shell. For users, the shell is up to the administrator. The bells and
> whistles you are talking about in Linux come from them using BASH (Bourne
> Again Shell) by
why would anybody remove such a useful thing? how do we debug X hangs for
example?
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"Gerhard S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One technical difference is that cursor keys and command line editing and
> completion generally works out of the box in Linux and it generally doesn't
> in Solaris. I hope OpenSolaris will finally fix that usability issue so that
> it can lose that "80
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> And BTW: it is definitely unfair to compare an instable devleopment kernel
> from
> Linux (2.6) with a stable Solaris-10. A fair comparison would compare Linux2.6
> with Solaris-11 or Solaris-10 with Linux-2.4 (which is the latest stable
> Linux).
N
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 18:28, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > The fact that developers all write to the main repository for their
> > branches even when nowehere near completion just doesn't make sense
> > to me. Either way you have to continuously merge the main branch
> >
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> The fact that developers all write to the main repository for their
> branches even when nowehere near completion just doesn't make sense
> to me. Either way you have to continuously merge the main branch
> with your own branch, so there's no gain to be had there.
This
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [UTF-8] Jürgen Keil wrote:
(bash) configure should detect SDL, like this:
% bash configure --target-list=i386-softmmu --prefix=/tmp/qemu
Install prefix/tmp/qemu
BIOS directory/tmp/qemu/share/qemu
binary directory /tmp/qemu/bin
Manual directory /tmp/qemu/share/man
E
(bash) configure should detect SDL, like this:
% bash configure --target-list=i386-softmmu --prefix=/tmp/qemu
Install prefix/tmp/qemu
BIOS directory/tmp/qemu/share/qemu
binary directory /tmp/qemu/bin
Manual directory /tmp/qemu/share/man
ELF interp prefix /usr/gnemul/qemu-%M
Source path
Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/linux/pdfs/LinuxVersusSolarisAnalysis24Feb2005.pdf
>
> I think after making your rather flaming and wholly inaccurate comment
> about the CDDL that hardly anyone can trust your assessment of "fair"
> in regards to any compariso
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote:
martin on #blastwave on irc.freenode.net has patched a version of qemu so
that it builds in /usr/sfw/bin/gcc i have built it my self.. works fine..
linux kernel 2.6.x use a 1000hz clock that expose defects in the qemu code
on slower boxes, but haven't e
On 7/7/05, Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> martin ... has patched a version of> qemu so that it builds in /usr/sfw/bin/gcc i have built it my self..Aren't you running qemu on Solaris SPARC? On S10 SPARC there's no suchissue with a crashing qemu due to /usr/sfw/bin/gcc.
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since I have a triple boot setup (XP,gentoo 2.6.9, opensolaris), I was very
tempted to do performance comparisons. OS lagged behind gentoo by 7% in my
encoding tests, but then my gentoo is super optimized and very light on
services. I just wanted to build a non-debug OS to see how far OS can bea
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [UTF-8] Jürgen Keil wrote:
Apropos qemu, does it work for you on b16 or b17, x86
platform?
[snip]
when compiled with /opt/csw/gcc3/bin/gcc it starts, but does nothing. No
windows opens, and after some 10-15 minutes of frenetic CPU usage (e.g.
when booting Knoppix 3.9)
> martin ... has patched a version of
> qemu so that it builds in /usr/sfw/bin/gcc i have built it my self..
Aren't you running qemu on Solaris SPARC? On S10 SPARC there's no such
issue with a crashing qemu due to /usr/sfw/bin/gcc.
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> martin on #blastwave on irc.freenode.net has patched a version of qemu so
> that it builds in /usr/sfw/bin/gcc i have built it my self.. works fine..
> linux kernel 2.6.x use a 1000hz clock that expose defects in the qemu code
> on slower boxes, but haven't experienced any crashes
FYI : the p
oops meant this to go to everyone -- Forwarded message --From: James Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Jul 7, 2005 9:35 AMSubject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Qemu (was Re: Solaris vs. Linux)To: Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 7/7/05, Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Apropos
>
> Apropos qemu, does it work for you on b16 or b17, x86
> platform? I have downloaded it, applied the patch as per
>
> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/thebentzone?entry=run_windows_or_linux_or
>
> (had to fix isgreater() macro in gnu-c99-math.h), but
> have problems with it. If I compile it w
>Yes, in Solaris, Sun has stuck with good old Bourne Shell for the def=
>ault root shell. For users, the shell is up to the administrator. T=
>he bells and whistles you are talking about in Linux come from them u=
>sing BASH (Bourne Again Shell) by default. As of Solaris 10 (or mayb=
>e 9) BASH
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote:
[good stuff snipped]
Personally I predict a "super-system" that is a bottom layer host for
just about anything on top. Within 5 years. We currently see VMWare
and Qemu and perhaps others that allow us to 'simulate' an x86 system
on top of some other sy
>One technical difference is that cursor keys and command line editing and
>completion generally wor
ks out of the box in Linux and it generally doesn't in Solaris. I hope
OpenSolaris will finally fix
that usability issue so that it can lose that "80ies feeling"
>and be more user friendly.
>
>C
On 7/7/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Whatever it is .. it looks good. And he is a happy looking fellow isn't
> > he?
>
> Should should have seen him at the time when there still was a dead penguin
> behind him :-)
>
sigh .. wh
On 7/7/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As this discussion gets going, I'd just like to chime in with this: many
> of us here believe that both communities, both technologies, and both
> licenses have great value and will thrive side by side well into the
> future. Technical conversat
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