Re: [osol-discuss] Re: build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Hargreaves - Product Technical Support (APAC)
Sunil wrote: why are closed bins available as debug mode only? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org It's something that I'm spending some time on. It's getting there, albei

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Sherry Moore
Hi Sunil, By default we always build both i386 and amd64. If you would like to build i386 only, you can modify the following files this way: --- usr/src/uts/i86pc/Makefile.i86pc --- Index: usr/src/uts/i86pc/Makefile.i86pc 28c28 < # ident "@(#)Makefile.i86pc 1.124 05/06/08 S

[osol-discuss] I hosed my install

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
So, I cap-eye-installed the kernel as kernel.mine and did reboot -- 'kernel.mine/unix'. Panic with these errors: reading beyond end of ramdisk start=0x2000 size=0x2000 failed to read superblock panic : can't mount boot Now only thing I can boot is failsafe. Any

Re: [osol-discuss] build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Sherry Moore
Hi Sunil, If you would like to build amd64 with Studio 10 patch, and assuming that you have installed Studio 10 patch, this is what you need to do either in the environment setting, or in your environment file if you are using the "nightly" script: # export __GNUC64='#' # export SPRO_VROOT=path-t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/6/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why are closed bins available as debug mode only? >From the release notes: "3. Non-DEBUG kernel builds have not been tested." and posted by Mike Kupfer in this thread: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=2350рдо "I don't have the inf

[osol-discuss] Re: build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
why are closed bins available as debug mode only? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
$ uname -p i386 MACH is set to i386 as well. Why would I be doing an amd64 build? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/6/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is the default build trying to use gcc? I am following the directions > given in the dev. reference document. The only variable that affects the gcc > usage is __GNUC which I have set promptly to '#' but no go. If I set CC=cc > then it spews some

[osol-discuss] build always uses the gcc

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
Why is the default build trying to use gcc? I am following the directions given in the dev. reference document. The only variable that affects the gcc usage is __GNUC which I have set promptly to '#' but no go. If I set CC=cc then it spews some cc warnings: - cd usr/src/uts

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Michael K Dolan Jr
Ok, ok, poor form.. Someone else answer the original question then - I retract mine.. Al Hopper wrote: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: I've read a pretty fair comparison of Linux 2.6 vs Solaris 10. I think I originally got it off LinuxToday.com but just did a searc

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: > I've read a pretty fair comparison of Linux 2.6 vs Solaris 10. I think I > originally got it off LinuxToday.com but just did a search and found a > link to it on IBM's site... It actually looks at everything from > technical differences, legal/licens

[osol-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [solarisx86] talk]

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
From a coding standpoint, this might almost qualify for oss-bite-size, but since it changes the protocol and could involve bringing in new code from BSD, it would also seem a good simple case for getting an introduction to Sun's ARC and legal review processes. -alan- Original Me

[osol-discuss] Re: Code Management System for OpenSolaris

2005-07-06 Thread Nikolay Molchanov
I don't know if JDS sources have ever been under TW, or if JDS developers used to use TW, but now decided to use CVS (which sounds strange to me :-). Anyway, this is not a problem. We have created a TeamWare client for CVS. This tool allows to use CVS repository as a "parent" workspace, so each de

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/6/05, Chris Ricker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: > > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/linux/pdfs/LinuxVersusSolarisAnalysis24Feb2005.pdf > > You might note who paid for that analysis. Like most such studies, it > ends up supporting its sugar daddy -- no

Re: [osol-discuss] vt's

2005-07-06 Thread Chris Ricker
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Shawn Walker wrote: > On 7/6/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I miss the most (from Gentoo system) is the ability to have access to > > multiple vt's from console without having to login onto X. I know I can use > > screen but its not quite as convenient as the v

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Chris Ricker
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/linux/pdfs/LinuxVersusSolarisAnalysis24Feb2005.pdf You might note who paid for that analysis. Like most such studies, it ends up supporting its sugar daddy -- no real surprise there. The technical inaccuracies in it (abo

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: > accurate. I tend to favor Linux too anyway (GPL is open source with > freedom, CDDL is fake open source) and so does most of this industry Care to explain your-anti CDDL FUD? CDDL is just as open source as GPL, and gives developers MORE freedom tha

Re: [osol-discuss] vt's

2005-07-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/6/05, Sunil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I miss the most (from Gentoo system) is the ability to have access to > multiple vt's from console without having to login onto X. I know I can use > screen but its not quite as convenient as the vt's since I can't really > switch from X to cons

[osol-discuss] vt's

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
What I miss the most (from Gentoo system) is the ability to have access to multiple vt's from console without having to login onto X. I know I can use screen but its not quite as convenient as the vt's since I can't really switch from X to console. Are there any possibilities there? This message

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/6/05, Michael K Dolan Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've read a pretty fair comparison of Linux 2.6 vs Solaris 10. I think I > originally got it off LinuxToday.com but just did a search and found a > link to it on IBM's site... It actually looks at everything from > technical differences, le

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Michael K Dolan Jr
I've read a pretty fair comparison of Linux 2.6 vs Solaris 10. I think I originally got it off LinuxToday.com but just did a search and found a link to it on IBM's site... It actually looks at everything from technical differences, legal/licensing, and ecosystems support. In the end it comes ou

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Insecure by default

2005-07-06 Thread Richard Elling
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Paul Walsh wrote: > > > I remember being told by the tutor on a Solaris SysAdmin course to > > always choose "Entire distribution + OEM support" Nowadays I'm not so > > I think that's very poor advice. In general, this is good advice... > > sure. A system being set up as

[osol-discuss] Re: RE: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
Oracle is a company in category #2 and it has moved from solaris to linux. all dev. machines are RHEL. the base platform where the first release happens is linux. solaris is a product line, like MVS/VMS/HPUX/AIX. care to explain that? This message posted from opensolaris.org _

[osol-discuss] Re: Security Community for OpenSolaris

2005-07-06 Thread Richard Elling
+1 -- richard This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] [Sun Express, Build 16]: Could someone generate checksums for available CDs

2005-07-06 Thread Wojciech A. Koszek
Hello, I've notices well known problem [1,2] after installing software sets from 1st CD (as it is written in subject, Sun Express, Build 16). To make sure that my images were downloaded properly, could someone put SHA1/MD5 hashes of those files? My checksums are: SHA1(sol-nv-b16-x86-v1-iso.zip)

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, > A few months before I was in fear that it would be hard to have the same GUI > as Sun Solaris, not that the sources are available I am encouraged. So this is quite interesting, because no one's commented how the branding will look for JDS under the opensolaris.org umbrella - would people e

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Glynn Foster
Heya, > > I'd like to lead a desktop community focused on JDS. There's absolutely > > no reason that others can't jump in with proposals to lead KDE, XFCE, or > > other variants - in fact, I'd totally encourage anyone to do so! > > I did see recently that the JDS sources are available. > What

Re: [osol-discuss] Code Management System for OpenSolaris

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Nikolay Molchanov wrote: I'd like to ask if there is a recommended Code Management System for OpenSolaris. Solaris is shipped with "sccs" (/usr/ccs/bin/sccs), and inside Sun all Solaris sources are under SCCS. Many Solaris sources, but no longer all, since TeamWare was declared "dead" a few

Re: [osol-discuss] Code Management System for OpenSolaris

2005-07-06 Thread Cyril Plisko
Nikolay Molchanov wrote: I'd like to ask if there is a recommended Code Management System for OpenSolaris. Solaris is shipped with "sccs" (/usr/ccs/bin/sccs), and inside Sun all Solaris sources are under SCCS. We use Sun's CodeManager (also known as TeamWare) as primary Code Management System f

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Yes, technical issues. What else should we be interested? Having gone through most of the variants of Linux, it seems me that the Fedora/RHEL combo is an excellent development model that can be followed by OpenSolaris/Solaris. Discussions on the technical merits of OpenSolaris/Solaris vis-a

[osol-discuss] Code Management System for OpenSolaris

2005-07-06 Thread Nikolay Molchanov
I'd like to ask if there is a recommended Code Management System for OpenSolaris. Solaris is shipped with "sccs" (/usr/ccs/bin/sccs), and inside Sun all Solaris sources are under SCCS. We use Sun's CodeManager (also known as TeamWare) as primary Code Management System for Solaris development, and

RE: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Albertson, Brett
I have noticed that there are two kinds of companies in this regard. 1. Companies that analyze how cheaply they can procure the hardware and software on which they run their IT infrastructure. 2. Companies that depend on having some relationship with a vendor who can both provide support and s

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I am wondering if anyone would be interested in discussing Solaris_86 (10 and later) vis-a-vis Linux? Do we have to? There are so many different email lists and/or newsgroups that are already discussing that. Unless we are talking e.g technical issu

[osol-discuss] Solaris vs. Linux

2005-07-06 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I am wondering if anyone would be interested in discussing Solaris_86 (10 and later) vis-a-vis Linux? I have been using Red Hat Linux since 4.2 and am very pleased, as far as desktops are concerned, with Fedora Core 4. However, because of several critical issues (e.g., inability to include pro

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Casper . Dik
>Does this mean that OpenSolaris will not be ble to deal with this >ACPI implementation (or with this board)? Unless you don't use ACPI enumeration or if you fix the AML. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I'd like to lead a desktop community focused on JDS. There's absolutely > >>no reason that others can't jump in with proposals to lead KDE, XFCE, or > >>other variants - in fact, I'

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Casper . Dik
>Jul 2 11:10:09 s11 genunix: [ID 243001 kern.warning] WARNING: The binding >file entry "iprb 214" c onflicts with a previous entry on line 201 of /etc/name_to_major There's an issue here with corruption in the /etc/*_* files; /etc/name_to_major has duplicate entries and these are also not as th

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Solaris 10 is not OpenSolaris (yet) and starting immediately with 2 > > different > > desktops is a bit hard for the SchilliX maintainers. > > The SchilliX maintainers don't have to be part of every single > OpenSolaris community or include all of

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to lead a desktop community focused on JDS. There's absolutely no reason that others can't jump in with proposals to lead KDE, XFCE, or other variants - in fact, I'd totally encourage anyone to do so! I did see recently t

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: Stefan Teleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: how about a KDE community as well ? :-) lead-in: i am in the process of packaging and uploading KDE 3.4.1 for Solaris 10, both of x86 and SPARC, at KDE. finally. :-) i will post here when it's ready and sync'ed (very shortly).

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Dana H. Myers
Joerg Schilling wrote: "Dana H. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have a look here: http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/usr/src/uts/i86pc/io/acpica/osl.c#570 What I'm contemplating is adding yet another acpi-user-options bit to disable access control for those willing to experiment with i

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Dana H. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have a look here: > > http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/usr/src/uts/i86pc/io/acpica/osl.c#570 > > What I'm contemplating is adding yet another acpi-user-options bit to > disable access control for those willing to experiment with it. So you think

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Dana H. Myers
Joerg Schilling wrote: "Dana H. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jul 4 21:41:45 s11 acpica: [ID 972481 kern.warning] WARNING: AcpiOsWritePort: cf8 32 not permitted Jul 4 21:41:45 s11 acpica: [ID 815887 kern.notice] ACPI-0519: *** Error: Jul 4 21:41:45 s11 acpica: [ID 441208 kern.notice]

[osol-discuss] Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Dana H. Myers
> On my machine anyway, a single power button press > induces shutdown. > > A triple press induces panic+crashdump. That's only if you've installed the experimental acpidrv (part of frkit) Dana This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-d

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Dana H. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > If I plug in a PS/2 mouse (even after the system is booted successfully) > > the keyboard becomes non-functional until the system is rebooted. > > That's odd. I'll have to forward this to the keyboard/mouse team; > it doesn

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stefan Teleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how about a KDE community as well ? :-) > > lead-in: i am in the process of packaging and uploading KDE 3.4.1 for > Solaris 10, both of x86 and SPARC, at KDE. finally. :-) i will post > here when it's ready and sync'ed (very shortly). Solaris 10 is not

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Sunil
this helps my system a lot. no more hanging at 'rebooting...". And power off works as alan described. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [New Community Proposal] - starting an OpenSolaris JDS Desktop Community

2005-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > I'd like to start the ball rolling in getting an OpenSolaris Desktop > Community launched. Let's face it, there's an awful lot of FUD being > spread around OpenSolaris not being ready for the desktop - it's time to > prove them wrong ;) >

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Feature request

2005-07-06 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote: Jul 2 11:10:09 s11 genunix: [ID 243001 kern.warning] WARNING: The binding file entry "iprb 214" conflicts with a previous entry on line 201 of /etc/name_to_major Jul 2 11:10:09 s11 genunix: [ID 723599 kern.warning] WARNING: Driver alias "pci8086,

[osol-discuss] Re: smpatch, response code was 500

2005-07-06 Thread Victor Feng
It works now. Thanks. Victor This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] floppy driver problems, [was: b17 copying behaviour?]

2005-07-06 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (There are really only two AML interpreters and compilers: the one found in Windows and the one from Intel (ACPICA) which is used in Solaris, Linux and others. Does Linux actually uses Intel's one or is that written from scratch? If the question is

Re: [osol-discuss] floppy driver problems, [was: b17 copying behaviour?]

2005-07-06 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, James Lick wrote: Dragan Cvetkovic wrote: dd: /dev/rdiskette: open: No such file or directory So, as far as Solaris is concerned, there is no floppy drive at all. It has worked fine before switching to new ACPI architecture. I see you've already fixed your problem, but

Re: [osol-discuss] smpatch, response code was 500

2005-07-06 Thread matty91
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Victor Feng wrote: The smpatch analyze, smpatch download worked last week. Today, they always give error message "response code was 500", and the log message says "can not create cache downloader". There were some issues with the infrastructure that runs updateserver.su