Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: question about /proc

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 11:41, Alan Coopersmith > wrote: > > On 09/29/17 06:55 AM, Predrag Zečević - Technical Support Analyst wrote: >> Hi all, >> I got today alert (actually blinking TimeSlider icon) that root FS is more >> than 70% in use (that is my setup). >> Went to check what occupies so

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Some opt to open their systems while others don't

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 04:03, Jerry Kemp wrote: > > I don't believe that this page is anything new. > > OS X has been open since the beginning, with the exclusion of their "Aqua" > GUI, or what ever it is currently called. > > Jerry > I don't recall iOS or the Server components on there, not

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Intel hardware

> On Jan 4, 2018, at 14:21, Nemo wrote: > > On 4 January 2018 at 13:45, cpforum wrote: > [..] >> The only really secure solution : replace your CPU ! > > Do you mean to sparc? > > N. While Meltdown may be specific to Intel, I would not assume that SPARC would be immune to Spectre. Perh

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Swap/stack space continuously shrinking

Once a week, save the output of df -h -F tmpfs and top -o size -b -c 10 Look for filesystem growth in the former, and a process that's getting larger in the latter. If it's the kernel, you'd have to use mdb -K from the console or boot with kmdb, and then use ::findleaks The following cover

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox

The command to list loaded kernel modules is "modinfo". > On Dec 9, 2018, at 14:51, Till Wegmüller wrote: > > Hi Aurelian > > Good Question. How can I check the the Modules are loaded? I only know > lsmod from linux but I know that command does not exist in illumos. > > I rebooted multiple tim

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] vnc server for Openindiana?

While I don't have OI installed, or at least not anywhere handy right now, I do see at http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/advanced_search.shtml?token=%2F*vnc&show=p&rpp=50&v=&action=Advanced+Search

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Confluence security incident

> On May 13, 2019, at 01:25, Tony Brian Albers wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-05-11 at 07:59 -0500, Gary Mills wrote: >> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 09:15:34AM +, Alexander Pyhalov via >> openindiana-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Given that actually nobody has cared enough for this infrastructure >>> serve

[OpenIndiana-discuss] what additional packages to install to change server into desktop?

I must not have paid attention - used the text installer, and got a text only load. It'd be nice to have the desktop load, preferably without reinstalling. What packages do I have to install? Hopefully there's a small number that will pull in the rest as dependencies. __

[OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox guest extensions on OpenIndiana guest?

...don't seem to work (yes, did the pkginstall and rebooted). Guest installed from OI-hipster-text-20190511.iso plus desktop packages (thanks, Michal!) via pkg install mate_install; VirtualBox (on a Mac running latest Mojave) is 6.0.8 r130520. Or at any rate, seamless mode is greyed out; haven'

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox guest extensions on OpenIndiana guest?

l Wegmüller wrote: > > Hi > > You need to enable lightdm service. Also seemless mode has some more > requirements like a n xserver needs to be running and Guest extension > including xserver extensions installed. > > Greetings > TIll > On 17.05.19 21:10, Richard L. Hamilton

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox guest extensions on OpenIndiana guest?

17/19 09:45 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> Configured memory balloon size: 0MB >> OS type: Solaris_64 >> Additions run level: 2 >> Additions version6.0.8 r130520 > > Did you install the Oracle shipped guest additions? > > Wou

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Closed-Source Binary Blobs?

See iconv(5) for a very cursory description of them. I think they're made from a (closed, undocumented) text source format using the undocumented (no man page) kbdcomp command. It appears that they may be still relevant for some conversions that iconv can perform, and you can probably deduce wh

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Closed-Source Binary Blobs?

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 21:30, Richard Lowe wrote: > > I filed 11466 remove old closed iconv tables > (https://www.illumos.org/issues/11466) > if someone wanted to take a crack at this. > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Detected problem with IPv6 update

I've had that happen on the rare occasions my cable gives me a different IPv6 prefix (the leases being decently long, that's typically a fairly long power outage, not just a modem reboot). Takes awhile to remember that I have firewall rules on the router (that sadly cannot be written in terms o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mounting the root pool of another system.

Did you try importing it readonly as described (adding -o readonly=on to the zpool import options) ? Solaris 11.2 has an option to import with a temporary name (unlike importing with a new name), which looks more appropriate. Unfortunately, I don't see that OpenIndiana has that feature. https

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mounting the root pool of another system.

t all by /a when it mounted. > On Sep 30, 2019, at 06:54, Marc Lobelle wrote: > > yes, but I got another problem: it tries to mount on the directories of > my rpool. Is there a way to force another mountpoint, either with zpool > import or zfs mount ? > > Marc > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster 2019.10: How do I change the default editor for the root crontab?

The crontab(1) man page says: -e Edits a copy of the current user's crontab file, or creates an empty file to edit if crontab does not exist. When editing is complete, the file is installed as the user's crontab file. The environment vari

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster 2019.10: How do I change the default editor for the root crontab?

> On Dec 16, 2019, at 01:54, Judah Richardson wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:37 AM Tony Brian Albers wrote: > >> On Sun, 2019-12-15 at 22:54 -0600, Judah Richardson wrote: >>> Thanks for the very detailed explanation! I have some follow up >>> questions: >>> Point taken. Sounds

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Meaning of `list list' header columns particularly REFER

You have to think of what might be the popular, unique (or unlikely to match something else), and concise form of the question to get good results with google, which probably uses previous choices of which result to click on for a given search, to help rank future results. A search for zfs re

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Meaning of `list list' header columns particularly REFER

<https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gcfgz/index.html> which gives more detail of what makes up "used". > On Dec 25, 2019, at 10:51, Harry Putnam wrote: > > "Richard L. Hamilton" writes: > >> You have to think of what might be the popular, un

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding package that includes file

This works for me (the locate command doesn't show the package, but it does show where it is). This assumes the file is installed. root@openindiana:~# locate libXm.so.3 # if updatedb has been run /usr/dt/lib/libXm.so.3 /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 root@openindiana:~# pkg contents -o pkg.name,path -a path=

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Shell to use?

On OI (and Solaris 11.4), nscd caches auth_attr, user_attr, prof_attr, and exec_attr (and of course passwd, group, and project); so I'm not sure what could be done to speed up RBAC. However, policy.conf is NOT cached (and has lots of CDDL etc comments in it); per policy.conf(4) it's read by chk

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Is there a *BSD to OI/Solaris cheatsheet?

modinfo, modload (but you should usually use add_drv to install a loadable driver/module, instead), modunload (but you should usually use rem_drv instead). RTFM on all of 'em, because the options and behavior are likely to be different. A google for freebsd solaris admin cheat sheet will f

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A rant

The arrangement of the source tree is quite similar to other System V lineage Unix systems (in the relevant way, starting with SVR3, which had support for multiple filesystems). It's all down to what you're used to. Set up locate, or just use "find" to make and save a list of all the files, and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Porting an application to OpenIndiana.

Bottom line is that except for apps that use native GUI code* or apps that perform system management functions**, _IF_ the original programmer takes due care to use only standards compliant interfaces and widely available dependencies as much as possible, and to use build mechanisms(s) that can

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] safely cleanup pkg cache?

Before you do that, just to cover the obvious, have you gotten rid of old boot environments (and the snapshots shown with beadm list -a) ? > On Feb 21, 2021, at 01:45, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > > > All- > > My space-constrained OI hipster build VM is running low on space.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] safely cleanup pkg cache?

While I'm not sure why extra snapshots seem to be involved, here's what I actually see when going through an update, looking at the results, and cleaning up. # starting with just the running BE, no extra snapshots: root@openindiana:~# pkg update Packages to install: 10 P

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] safely cleanup pkg cache?

> On Feb 21, 2021, at 16:42, Stephan Althaus > wrote: > > Hello! > > The "-s" option does the minimal obvious remove of the corresponding snapshot: Yes, that does help simplify cleanup; thanks. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-dis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "format -e" segmentation fault attempting to label a 5 TB disk in Hipster 2017.10

I'm not an OS developer (although I have read a fair bit of Solaris etc source over the years, and have written a kernel module or two for my own amusement). That said, if you have a core file, pstack core_file (whatever the core file's name is) will give a backtrace, which might (although wit

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?

I'm wondering why mwm is apparently not part of the motif package for OpenIndiana. AFAIK it's included with the OpenMotif source bundle, and it's fairly lightweight as window managers go, while still (to my eyes, anyway) looking a bit prettier than twm. It's a lot like CDE dtwm, minus control pa

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Monitor RAIDZ disk failure

I would think that fmadm faulty would show that (and various other problems, too), or nothing if there was nothing wrong. Or something like zpool list|nawk 'BEGIN {bad=0} NR==1 {header=$0} NR>1 {if ($7!="ONLINE") {bad++;saved[bad]=$0}} END {if (bad>0) {print header;for (x in saved) print sav

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Hipster 2020.10 text installer ISO Wow!!!!

You're reading too much into that stack trace. Threads 2 and 3 both were created by library calls, probably to look up some relevant information or to be notified of device related events. So no, nobody rewrote a utility that doesn't need threads to use them anyway. > On Mar 1, 2021, at 19:45,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identify type of disk

NVMe "disks" are managed (only?) using nvmeadm: nvmeadm namespace -v should list them. (apparently "nvmeadm list" lists controllers, which can have one or more namespaces (sections of its total storage which more or less correspond to disks)) I don't know if any sort of NVM drive that doesn't

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster 2020.10 text installer ISO Wow!!!!

The ENOENTs refer to libraries associated with the optional 3rd party commercial product Veritas Volume Manager. format attempts to check for conflicting uses of a raw device, such as if it is being managed by VxVM, Solaris Disk Suite, ZFS, etc. In this case, it attempts to dynamically load the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] timeout display for input prompt

If it has to be pure csh (without any helpers), you're probably out of luck, because csh is crippled when it comes to scripting. You could probably use a command substitution on a one-liner of your bash from the csh script: #! /bin/csh set myvar=`bash -c 'read -t 10 ;echo "${REPLY}"'` echo "$my

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] timeout display for input prompt

bash command is what takes the place of the command substitution in the csh. The quoting needs care to get right, too. set req=`bash -c 'read -s -t 10 ;echo "${REPLY}"'` > echo $req > > if ( "$req" == "" ) then > > echo "

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

I don't reinstall from an image, but run pkg update almost daily, and have rarely (maybe once, a long time ago) run into anything that didn't boot properly again (such that I had to boot an older BE and get rid of the failed one). That's as VirtualBox guests (usually current VirtualBox, except t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

That must be something with the user interface for configuration, because the "domainname" command allows 256 characters (257 including a terminating null byte, maybe). Even if you go by something else that says 64, it's still a lot bigger than 15. > On Apr 22, 2021, at 17:47, Tim Mooney via op

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ARM chips V9 oi

Back in the OpenSolaris days, there was an experimental port to the NEC NaviEngine 1, an ARM11 (32-bit) SoC for car nav and the like. No idea if anyone has ever attempted to extend that into the 64 bit realm. Open source compilers exist, which could probably be configured to generate ELF object

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which font package for the Cherokee language?

I don't know any magic "pkg" command that would answer that, but there are free (and not free) Cherokee fonts out there, you just have to figure out how to install them. Presumably with the usual X11 stuff (put it in the right directory and then run mkfontscale . and mkfontdir . in that director

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which font package for the Cherokee language?

-font-viewer NotoSansCherokee-Regular.ttf With no font file on the command line, mate-font-viewer seems to display (all, or searched-for) installed fonts. > On May 13, 2021, at 17:03, Jason Martin wrote: > > Thank you. > > On 5/13/21 5:00 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >&

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Question about System Monitor

Because of the way swap is implemented on Solaris and descendants (on SVR4 in general, maybe), the vmstat "swap" column is very misleading; check output of swap -l (lower-case L option) instead, and if the free column is the same as the blocks column, no real swap is actually being used. Likewi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] warning - don't update OI

I ran into that already on my copy of OI, which is just a VirtualBox VM to play with. Downloading http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20210430/OI-hipster-gui-20210430.iso adding that as a CD/DVD image to the VM,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] warning - don't update OI

Please let also the openindiana-discuss list know when the real 2.37 binutils is safe and included; some of us don't subscribe to the oi-dev list. I'd also admit to some curiosity what the problem with 2.37 was, once that's understood. Not to mention whether there's anything that one can do at

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

Seems like the Linux style O_NOATIME flag (usable only by root - or on Solaris derivatives, possibly with a fine-grained permission) might be a useful addition to the OS, so that system programs that read a lot of files can avoid causing massive time updates that either generate excess I/O and o

[OpenIndiana-discuss] "No solution was found to satisfy constraints"

What's up with this? Yesterday's pkg update was fine, and found a few things, so this seems odd. Not like I've done anything recently but run a pkg update every now and again (daily if I get to it and my Internet, cranky in hot weather, is up). root@openindiana:~# pkg update Creating Plan (Run

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "No solution was found to satisfy constraints"

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 04:57, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: > > pfexec pkg install userland-incorporation@0.5.11-2020.0.1.14371 root@openindiana:~# pfexec pkg install userland-incorporation@0.5.11-2020.0.1.14371 Creating Plan (Solver setup): / pkg install: Package 'library/python/python-twisted' mu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "No solution was found to satisfy constraints"

ration. >> Note that this would remove all version lock constraints which is >> something you don't want on a production system. >> 4. Wait until we fixed this problem (might take some days)|. >> | >> >> Regards, >> Andreas| >> | >>

[OpenIndiana-discuss] svc:/system/update-man-index is slow

Most of the time, man indexes don't actually need to be rebuilt. The attached change to /lib/svc/method/update-man-index should (I think) only update the directories (if any) that are not current, so that most of the time, it finishes in a second or so rather than a couple of minutes (less clutt

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] svc:/system/update-man-index is slow

/usr/bin/wc -l | /usr/bin/tr -d ' ')" == "0" ]; then > On Sep 21, 2021, at 06:48, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > Most of the time, man indexes don't actually need to be rebuilt. The attached > change to /lib/svc/method/update-man-index should (I th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] svc:/system/update-man-index is slow

account on illumos.org <http://illumos.org/>, and have no desire to assume any particular role there. > On Sep 21, 2021, at 09:03, Andy Fiddaman wrote: > > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2021, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > ; Most of the time, man indexes don't actually need to be

[OpenIndiana-discuss] package conflict: how to resolve? / this shouldn't happen, right?

The following happened on a VM that gets updated just about daily (might go as long as a few weeks occasionally, but that wasn't the case now), so it's not as if it was way behind! The illumos Project illumos-59b827862f February 2022 root@openindiana:~# pkg update Creating Plan (Check

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the rpool/dump fs?

I can think of very few cases where one would want the CONTENTS of swap or dump to be backed up, but I would likely want the layout backed up, so that (empty) volumes of the same size would be restored, leaving the restored system entirely ready to use. Upside: faster, smaller, safer (informati

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] AV1 Codex on firerfox 102.1

Seems the publisher name has to come last, after all the options; so the 1st of those two commands I changed to pkg set-publisher -g https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/ --search-after=openindiana.org hipster-encumbered with the —search-after=openindiana.org

[OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg install conflicts

This VM is updated almost daily, so it’s not as if it was so out-of-date that problems might be expected; so I imagine something is not consistent in the packages in the repository. root@openindiana:~# pkg update Creating Plan (Checking for conflicting actions): | pkg update: The requested chang

[OpenIndiana-discuss] what do pkg install phases mean?

Given the output - output begins -- root@openindiana:~# pkg update Packages to update: 375 Create boot environment: Yes Create backup boot environment: No DOWNLOADPKGS FILESXFER (MB) SPEED Completed

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] what do pkg install phases mean?

o takes a long time) > > Boot environments are created on updates that update more than one package. > The package can inform IPS if a new boot environment is required. > Installation uninstall etc. do not require a new boot environment. > > Hope this helps > Till > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] what do pkg install phases mean?

rch index for pkg search actions (this also takes a long >>> time) >>> >>> Boot environments are created on updates that update more than one package. >>> The package can inform IPS if a new boot environment is required. >>> Installation uninsta

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] what do pkg install phases mean?

> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:12, Peter Tribble wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 4:19 PM Till Wegmüller wrote: > >> Hi >> >> IPS works on images of the OS. And it does so in an Atomic way. Speed is >> not the main goal. Stability is. >> > > As a historical interlude, speed was very much a key f

[OpenIndiana-discuss] update conflicts, what happened?

root@openindiana:~# pkg update Creating Plan (Checking for conflicting actions): / pkg update: The following packages all deliver driver actions to nvidia: pkg://openindiana.org/driver/graphics/nvidia@525.105.17,5.11-2023.0.0.0:20230331T112122Z pkg://openindiana.org/driver/graphics/nvidia-39

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zoom on openindiana

AFAIK, Zoom is proprietary and only available for Windows, macOS, (some) Linux, and iOS and Android mobile devices. It uses a number of TCP and UDP ports, including TCP ports 80 and 443 (http/https) to get started, but others too. So I think there is probably no open source or Solaris client. Th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?

Given motherboard serial ports (like on a desktop, but very few laptops anymore), can OpenIndiana handle a serial console? What about a serial console on a PCIe card, or worse, on a USB port? Funny note there: at least with Sun/SPARC hardware, you need a null modem cable to connect a terminal,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] updates and reboots

> On Jan 7, 2024, at 22:07, Goetz T. Fischer wrote: > > hi, > > a general question: > > i did a "pkg update" on the 2nd and another one just now. so just a few days > later but again a new be > was created and i had to reboot. of course i understand that for certain > things a reboot is n

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] no force write by root user?

> On Mar 9, 2024, at 19:44, Bill Sommerfeld via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > > On 3/9/24 16:31, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: >> Hello, >> if the root user wants to write back a file not writable as set by >> permissions a force write back (wq! in vi) does not work. Is that >> behavior intended? Ot

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox 123.0.1 has changed UA (User-Agent) value?

> On Mar 21, 2024, at 11:53, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > > On 21/03/2024 16:11, Predrag Zečević via openindiana-discuss wrote: >> For example, previous version UA was: >> >> "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS i86pc; rv:122.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/122.0" >> >> Now is: >> >> "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS pkg popularity contests

On Oct 8, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Rthoreau wrote: > Dear: fellow OpenIndiana users developers; > > After installing a lot of programs not listed in the repositories, such > as msmtp, aspell, hunspell, and trying to get a basic desktop > environment. I was wondering how Illumos, and OpenIndiana are go

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Applications

And please make sure that 32-bit apps get built largefile-aware. There are enough of them that aren't, that it's a nuisance sometimes. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Making OI Packages (part I)

On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > [...] > For C language binaries, gcc & Studio cc are ABI compatible, so providing > both is a waste of time. For C++, they are not compatible, so if you > must provide a C++ library that others will link against, you either provide > both o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Making OI Packages (part I)

> I was talking binary compatibility, while it sounds like you're talking source > compatibility. > > If you can build a library with either Studio cc or gcc, then users of both > can link their programs against it, you don't need to provide different > versions for each compiler as you must do wi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:05 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: > > On 11/01/10 09:32, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >>> this discussion is pointless - imo. >> >> I totally agree. IMHO, we should not care about what happens >> to Oracle. >> > I second that. Oracle did not really care about the Opensol

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

On Nov 1, 2010, at 5:56 PM, James O'Gorman wrote: > On 1 Nov 2010, at 21:54, Nathan Evans wrote: > >> I wouldn't mind hosting binary ISO images. >> Let me know if this is needed and/or wanted. >> Keep in mind I am still on residential DSL.(hopefully will be shortly >> remedied). > > More mirror

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bordeaux running on OpenIndiana

Both are commercial products that add to wine and provide support for it. (There's at least one other such, too) You pay for that, it's not free, like basic wine is, but you may get some more functionality for it too. There are comparisons out there, more or less. Try googling for something like

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

On Nov 3, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Gary wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: > >> You don't neet a MD5 check. The original "torrent" file comes from >> OpenIndiana, and it is "safe". You are a seed, like any other BT client. > > The reason you don't need one is because torrent cli

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Chris Mosetick wrote: > Sorry to drift the topic more :) If anyone has the time and skills to make a > package for Deluge ( http://deluge-torrent.org/ ) and get it into the > repository, I would be forever grateful. Sadly I lack the skills to make > such a thing happe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Allan E. Registos wrote: >> No, OpenIndiana both targets Desktops and Server > > > That is what most GNU/Linux distributions have done since the dawn of time. > But the recent(well not quite recent) spat between Ingo Molnar and Con > Kolivas (Linux kernel develope

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [solarisx86] For those nostalgic fellas

Woohoo! Now I've got to get a copy of that, for my Mac at least :-) On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 01/ 2/11 05:55 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >> http://devio.us/~kpedersen/ > > Nooo! I just killed CDE! It can't be back from the dead! > Run before the zombie

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana branding

On Jan 15, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 14/01/11 21:53, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: >> OpenIndiana is technically SunOS 5.11, and to maintain compatibility >> we'll be keeping this for the foreseeable future. Perhaps in the very >> dista

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

On Jan 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: > Alasdair Lumsden wrote: >> Hi Gabriel, >> >> On 01/17/11 10:07 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: >>> Thanks! >>> A place to start is a place to start, and an stable server release is >>> the most urgent one among all the other options

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS single drive CKSUM errors

My first guess would be that the errors were in metadata, which is redundant even with a single disk. google for zfs "ditto blocks" for an explanation. (if the filesystem has the copies= parameter set to something higher than the default of 1, data blocks will also be duplicated on a single dis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 10:58 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> On 01/25/11 10:50 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: >>> As for the MTA discussion, Postfix is pretty much a drop in replacement >>> for Sendmail, and my vote would be to replace Sendmail e

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Are there any issues re ZFS on 2TB disks (from WD??) with large blocksizes?

The question isn't what's wrong. The question is how good the support is for disks with 4K sectors - which includes the WD EARS drives. I think some (most?) such drives can emulate a drive with 512 byte sectors, but with a performance hit, esp. if the filesystem has 4K or larger blocks that are m

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)

On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > I was just taking a second (well, actually third) look at this and the > more important baby (IMAP) was thrown out with the bath water (MTA > debate). Both Cyrus (as perhaps most scalable/enterprise grade open source IMAP server) and Dovecot (b

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XDMCP not working

On Feb 13, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Gary wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Frank Middleton wrote: >> AFAIK you don't need to enable xfs. > > I haven't used xfs since decommissioning some X-terminals years ago > when we replaced them with the then brand new Sun Ray clients... q.v > http://en.wik

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI boot problem

On Mar 27, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: > > On 26 Mar 2011, at 20:20, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > >> Excuse the top-posting, I'm on my Blackberry... >> >> I've always found the default solaris reboot and shutdown commands a 'pain >> in the ass'. >> >> I doubt there are many systems out

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] CIFS slow reads but fast writes

On Apr 21, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Eric D. Mudama wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21 at 13:53, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: >> Gary wrote: >>> I can't speak to this issue in regards to OpenIndiana but CIFS/samba >>> has historically been much slower than NFS, FTP, and even netatalk, >>> etc. due to its large metadat

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?

On May 23, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 08:51 AM, Gary wrote: >> >> I must have missed that part of the thread but sudo predates Linux by at >> least ten years; http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/history.html >> > > It's the same old Solaris admin versus Linux

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?

On May 24, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Blake Irvin wrote: > As a longtime Solaris user I don't have to be convinced that it's better in > many ways than Linux. But there is a reality that I've been forced to > embrace - developers don't care. > > I'm in the process right now of helping a large develop

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?

compile on/install". I've been able to change these > opinions in some cases, but it's a hellish uphill battle when the Solaris > community has refused (until fairly recently), to compromise in the > userspace. > > All I want is to get as many people as possible usi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle gives openoffuce to apache

On Jun 2, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 15:51 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: >> Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >>> http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2011/06/oracle-gives-openoffice-to-apa.html >>> >>> Of course the article is terrible and myopic since it assume

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle gives openoffuce to apache

On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Michael Kerpan wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Tom Kranz wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> On 3 Jun 2011, at 03:44, Mark Humphreys wrote: >> >>> TDP does make the source code available. It should just be a matter of >>>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

If we're going to all toss names around, how about "phoebus" (one of the appelations of Apollo). From the Wikipedia article on Apollo: > Phoebus (<> /ˈfiːbəs/ fee-bəs; Φοίβος, Phoibos, literally "radiant") There's a number of tech things with that name, but I don't think any of them is an operati

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. Those young startups and newbie engineers would have to season for a few years to get my respect anyway. About the time they stop thinking they're l337 doodz or some such nonsense, they might _appreciate_ that function > fashion, and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle removes 32bit x86 cpu support for solaris 11 will OI do same?

32-bit still makes sense for an appliance. Unless you're seriously _poor_, I don't see that it matters if it won't run on some old dumpster diving relic. And a point against it: UFS root support is also said to be going away. That means ZFS root instead. And ZFS is really happier if you have lo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Gregory Youngblood wrote: >> Do you want to tell me that last year, during which I have done everything >> to promote OpenIndiana in my local Open and Free software community, is >> going to be wasted? No one and I really mean no one will ever take a second >> look

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle removes 32bit x86 cpu support for solaris 11 will OI do same?

In general, OpenWindows means two things to me: libraries: libxview (XView toolkit), libXol (OLIT toolkit), and associated libraries (libolgx and so on). The Open Look apps went away at I think Solaris 9 (although most of them would still run on Solaris 10 if one brought forward all the right bit

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] About the Gnome "slowdowns"

On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 06/22/11 08:43 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: >> "Slowlaris" was a term used only for the TCP/IP stack of Solaris 9. > > "Slowlaris" originally came out of the performance difference between > SunOS 4.x and Solaris 2.0, a decade before Solar

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Gregory Youngblood wrote: > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > >>> The biggest problem I have had with people trying OpenIndiana (and yes, >>> Solaris too) has been hardware compatibility. One colleague

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle removes 32bit x86 cpu support for solaris 11 will OI do same?

On Jun 24, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > > So I guess it would be fair to say that the best OS is the one that > > support both at the same time > > Yes, and that's OSol and OI do. Processes running under 32-bit Solaris can only be 32-bit. Processes running under 64-bit Solaris can

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ntpd not keeping time in sync

AFAIK, at least historically, the hardware battery clock time is expected (without some tweaks, to the extent that a given version allowed those) by Windows to be in local time. Operating systems that keep their internal time in something else (.e.g. Unix and related, where it's supposed to be

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Shorter subjects for mailing lists

On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: >> Yes, it is really an issue. Trying to make sense of mailing list >> subjects on my phone, for instance, is a bit tiresome. > > I guess most phones should allow for a little longer subjects than that these > days. For instance, my phone

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