Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox 13 & Java

2012-10-17 Thread Jonathan Adams
On 17 October 2012 04:32, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > Firefox 16.0.1 is available at > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/16.0.1/contrib/ ta for that, I downloaded 16, on the day Mozilla said they had stopped it because of a bug and I forgot to check after that. 15 works fine f

[OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
Just an information for all who install new firefox versions (>5) and use them for ILOM service processor web access. New firefoxes will not display correctly the ILOM web iframes, and this problem will not be fixed because it's Oracle's fault, but Oracle will not update all products still in use.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Udo Grabowski (IMK) writes: > > > A possible workaround is to add the following lines to a newly > created file in your home directory named > .mozilla/firefox/***.default/chrome/userContent.css : > > /* workaround for ILOM problem */ > @m

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Jeppe Toustrup
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > This information should be placed somewhere in the OI troubleshooting > web pages tree. Why? This has no relation to OpenIndiana at all. It's a matter of Sun/Oracle servers containing has HTML/JS code in the ILOM interface which doesn'

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 17/10/2012 13:14, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: This information should be placed somewhere in the OI troubleshooting web pages tree. Why? Because many OI users are converted Sun users with Sun servers ? -- Dr.Udo GrabowskiInst.f.M

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Jeppe Toustrup
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > On 17/10/2012 13:14, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) >> wrote: >>> >>> This information should be placed somewhere in the OI troubleshooting >>> web pages tree. >> >> >> Why? > > > Beca

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 17/10/2012 13:27, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: On 17/10/2012 13:14, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: This information should be placed somewhere in the OI troubleshooting web pages t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-17 15:27, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: You are probably better of creating a blog post or page someplace on the web where you describe the problem and the workaround for it, and then let the search engines index that. As the best of two worlds, the workaround can be blogged on OI wiki user's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 18/10/12 00:01, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: Just an information for all who install new firefox versions (>5) and use them for ILOM service processor web access. New firefoxes will not display correctly the ILOM web iframes Completely coincidentally, I came across the following link about ten

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 17/10/2012 14:03, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 18/10/12 00:01, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: Just an information for all who install new firefox versions (>5) and use them for ILOM service processor web access. New firefoxes will not display correctly the ILOM web iframes Completely coincidentally

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 17/10/2012 13:37, Jim Klimov wrote: 2012-10-17 15:27, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: You are probably better of creating a blog post or page someplace on the web where you describe the problem and the workaround for it, and then let the search engines index that. As the best of two worlds, the work

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox 13 & Java

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
Because 13 was the latest version when I did the update from the one in 151a. I didn't discover that it disabled Java until now. There's only one website I need Java for that I know of. I'm not aware of any reason I want 16.0.1 instead of 13. I *certainly* didn't want 16.0. --- On Tue, 10

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
Some nominally edited wiki tree is really where we need sys admin support information. Using google to find such things is pretty maddening at times. After the 3rd page of irrelevant hits, I generally give up and look elsewhere. I suggest a variation of the old Usenet convention in which the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI wiki usage WAS new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-17 16:21, Udo Grabowski (IMK) пишет: Good question as always: who manages such a page tree. Maybe a user editable wiki (registered users only, of course), with a category tree (to prevent information chaos). Outdated information should be cleaned up or marked as such. Comment functionalit

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Scott Marcy
So one more data point that seems to suggest that I'm getting duplicate names from these drives. When I attach at least one of the Samsung SSDs to each expander (front and back), I get this: $ cfgadm -al Ap_Id Type Receptacle Occupant Condition c6

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Scott Marcy wrote: Note that both c6 and c8 have the exact same name for these drives. I *CAN* access the two drives separately, but why on earth am I getting these duplicates? This means I can only reliably access one Samsung SSD per expander. Do you have multipath sup

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-17 Thread Laurent Blume
On 16/10/12 17:41, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote: How you recreated that? ln -s? devfsadm does not create anything. Just a manual ln -s /dev/sound/X /dev/audio. I'd need to try on OI, it's been a while since I've had audio issues. Laurent ___ OpenIndi

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
In chasing the Firefox/Java issue, I happened to look at the symlinks in /usr. I'm rather disturbed by what I find. There are 15715 in my installation of oi_151a. I *might* have created a couple, though it's unlikely as I don't generally do that. I usually put such things in ${HOME}/${ARCH}/

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZVOL (et al) /device node access rights

2012-10-17 Thread Jim Klimov
To follow-up on the described problems (since I am not the only one seeing them), I posted these issues in the illumos bugtracker: * https://www.illumos.org/issues/3283 ZFS RFE: correctly remember device node ownership and ACLs for ZVOLs * https://www.illumos.org/issues/3284 devfs BUG: ACLs

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 17/10/2012 16:50, Reginald Beardsley wrote: In chasing the Firefox/Java issue, I happened to look at the symlinks in /usr. I'm rather disturbed by what I find. There are 15715 in my installation of oi_151a. > ... Yes, it is painful to force people to fix their scripts, but in the end, in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Scott Marcy
Well, I enabled multipath support with 'stmsboot -e -D mpt' and rebooted and now it seems I have two paths to what is no doubt two physical devices: $ mpathadm list LU /dev/rdsk/c7t5002538043584D30d0s2 Total Path Count: 2 <-- Unlikely that this is correct

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI wiki usage WAS new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Roel_D
No mather where you store it, it's +3 from my side already. I was struggling with this for some time and had to use poor-old IE9 on windows 7 just for the ILOMs Kind regards, The out-side Op 17 okt. 2012 om 15:15 heeft Jim Klimov het volgende geschreven: > 2012-10-17 16:21, Udo Grabowski

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Rich
SATA devices are not required to provide a WWN - I would guess that they're providing the same WWN, and as a result, your SAS devices are becoming sad. If you could tell the expander(s) to ignore that and assign one, that'd be neat. If there's a firmware update to fix it, even better. If you want

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Scott Marcy
Ah, I see now. Yes, all the drives report the same LU WWN Device Id in smartctl, and I see the same constant WWN reported online (for example, http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.smartmontools.database/page=7). I'll see what Samsung has to say. Thanks! This at least gives me more to wor

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Oscar del Rio
On 10/17/12 07:01 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: Just an information for all who install new firefox versions (>5) and use them for ILOM service processor web access. New firefoxes will not display correctly the ILOM web iframes, and this problem will not be fixed because it's Oracle's fault, but

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
it'd be interesting to see what WWN smartctl -l would report from these. I've worked with SATA SSDs in similar setups, but never seen them reported with the same WWN roy - Opprinnelig melding - > Ah, I see now. Yes, all the drives report the same LU WWN Device Id in > smartctl, and I se

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
make that smartctl -i … you may have to add -d sat to that roy - Opprinnelig melding - > it'd be interesting to see what WWN smartctl -l would report from > these. I've worked with SATA SSDs in similar setups, but never seen > them reported with the same WWN > > roy > > - Opprinnel

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Wed, 10/17/12, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > From: Udo Grabowski (IMK) > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr > To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" > Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 10:11 AM > On 17/10/2012 16:50, Reginald > Beardsley wrote:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Scott Marcy
Sure. Here's the only one that can be seen in the expander: $ smartctl -d sat,12 -i /dev/rdsk/c7t5002538043584D30d0s0 smartctl 5.42 2011-10-20 r3458 [i386-pc-solaris2.11] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
that's strange indeed - I've never seen two SATA drives with the same WWN. May Samsung have doen something 'smart' here to stop people from using 'cheap' drives for serious stuff? roy - Opprinnelig melding - > Sure. > > Here's the only one that can be seen in the expander: > > $ smart

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Scott Marcy wrote: I called Samsung and they basically told me there was nothing they could do. The guy I spoke with said the 830s weren't intended to be used in servers. (He did seem to understand what I was talking about, which was actually more than I expected from sim

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Only one SSD detected on expander

2012-10-17 Thread Scott Marcy
I am returning the 4 drives I planned to use in the expanders, but will keep the two I'm using as my mirrored boot pool. My intention was to use these are ZIL and L2ARC drives, so I can do without them for now. I've had very good luck with these Samsung drives in non-SAS usages—quite a bit more

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 10/17/12 06:52 PM, Oscar del Rio wrote: Works for me. Firefox 16.0.1 on Solaris 11 x86, connecting to Sun server ILOM SP Firmware Version 3.0.6.15.d Have you updated the ILOM of your servers? No, the problem is that there will be no updates for our products... Therefore the workaround, as t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 10/17/12 06:58 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: --- On Wed, 10/17/12, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: From: Udo Grabowski (IMK) Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 10:11 AM On 17/10

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Wed, 10/17/12, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > When you have a big bunch of users and tell them "Hey, > tomorrow > we upgrade, and then you can't work for a while because > your > scripts and programs will surely break (esp. those of > people > no longer in the institute), so you have to i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Roel_D
Ok guys, Shake hands. If you continue this discussion we will have a nasty not so symbolic link between you two. Kind regards, The out-side Op 17 okt. 2012 om 20:33 heeft Reginald Beardsley het volgende geschreven: > > > --- On Wed, 10/17/12, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > > >> When yo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-17 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski
On 17.10.12 00:15, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: But these drivers will only work (and load automatically) if the device complies to the USB audio class specification, which should be seen in prtconf -v as either usbif,class1.1 or usbif,class1.2 for your device. If not, you need a proprietary driver

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] new Firefoxes and ILOM web access

2012-10-17 Thread Ben Taylor
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > On 10/17/12 06:52 PM, Oscar del Rio wrote: >> >> >> Works for me. >> Firefox 16.0.1 on Solaris 11 x86, connecting to Sun server ILOM SP >> Firmware Version 3.0.6.15.d >> Have you updated the ILOM of your servers? > > > No, the problem i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread James Carlson
Reginald Beardsley wrote: > I'm a geoscientist and have spent most of my career working for "big oil" as > in majors and super majors. Those certainly qualify as "large sites" and are > a lot bigger than any academic institute I know of. So I'm acutely aware of > the issues and what things work

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 10/17/12 04:58 PM, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote: On 17.10.12 00:15, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: But these drivers will only work (and load automatically) if the device complies to the USB audio class specification, which should be seen in prtconf -v as either usbif,class1.1 or usbif,class1.2 for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 10/17/12 08:54 PM, Roel_D wrote: Ok guys, Shake hands. If you continue this discussion we will have a nasty not so symbolic link between you two. :-) -- Dr.Udo GrabowskiInst.f.Meteorology a.Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT www-imk.fzk.de/asf/sat/grabowski/ www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.ph

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Wed, 10/17/12, James Carlson wrote: > From: James Carlson > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr > To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" > Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 2:45 PM > Reginald Beardsley wrote: > > I'm a geoscientist and have spen

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 10/17/12 11:21 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: --- On Wed, 10/17/12, James Carlson wrote: ... Intentionally introduced set of links that aid in compatibility and that are put in place by the designer of the system (and that hopefully disappear at some point in the future when no longer usef

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Reginald Beardsley wrote: We have similar silliness w/ /usr/X11 being a tree of links pointing to /usr. Again, setting the default PATH properly in the system files is much cleaner. Many paths are already burned into software on existing CD/DVDs or used as default sear

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley
--- On Wed, 10/17/12, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > From: Bob Friesenhahn > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr > To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" > Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 4:58 PM > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Reginald > Beardsley wrote: > > > > W

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote: > > So *when* do they disappear? That's the question I'm raising. What are > criteria for acceptable links? Why are user & site level customizations > cluttering a general distribution image? > > I'm concerned about the proliferation

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Namespace management and symlinks in /usr

2012-10-17 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
I took a different approach to do something very similar. I used an env file where all the executable locations were defined and also built a few aliases. I then used uname to detect the os and source the appropriate file. Wrapped that in a single file something so my scripts started with ". ~/b