Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mySQL

2011-03-29 Thread openindiana
Well, it would be extra painful if they were running on an Oracle database ;-) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Apostolos Syropoulos [mailto:asyropou...@yahoo.com] Verzonden: maandag 28 maart 2011 21:18 Aan: lista solaris; openindiana Onderwerp: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mySQL Vulnerable Target

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mySQL

2011-03-29 Thread Colin Ellis
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:14 AM, wrote: > Well, it would be extra painful if they were running on an Oracle database > ;-) > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Apostolos Syropoulos [mailto:asyropou...@yahoo.com] > Verzonden: maandag 28 maart 2011 21:18 > Aan: lista solaris; openindiana > O

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mySQL

2011-03-29 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
Web Server : Apache/2.2.15 (Fedora) <--Wow! Powered-by : PHP/5.2.13 Injection Type: MySQL Blind Here is how to patch your system: Glassfish Java PostgreSQL ;-P And problem solved... On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, wrote: > Well, it would be extra pa

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Jonathan Adams
probably won't help you, but we ZFS send to a local file, transfer the file with rsync (rsync can work with part transferred files, also if you use the rsyncd a riverbed can optimise/remember the connection) and then at the other end zfs receive the file. We have a large number of ZFS streams from

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Networking with Zones an Crossbow

2011-03-29 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
I don't see why not to use a bridge either, promiscuous mode at the level you have on your setup should be meaningless to your data center. You wont be the first one doing this kind of setup, most of network virtualization deployments would be impossible otherwise. BR g On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - > On 2011-Mar-29 02:19:30 +0800, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk > wrote: > >Is it (or will it) be possible to do a partial/resumable zfs > >send/receive? If having 30TB of data and only a gigabit link, such > >transfers takes a while, and if interrupted, will require a > >re-tra

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI boot problem

2011-03-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
 > Apostolos, Hi, > Sorry but it is interesting to me and I need to ask: > Is it only me or I keep seeing your every message as new topic? > Could it be it is you? and do you think it could be avoided for you somehow? > I really do not understand what this is supposed to mean. I am using YAHOO!

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Jonathan Adams
we always do ZFS receives from a local disk, after we had the system with the ZFS drives die in a big way when the link went down. It might work with better fault tolerance nowadays, and our ISP was playing up at the time, but we never want to have to fix that type of error again ... ghostly snaps

[OpenIndiana-discuss] 2011 Google Summer of Code for illumos is open!

2011-03-29 Thread Albert Lee
Hi everyone, The 2011 Google Summer of Code is an exciting opportunity to do something neat for your favorite open source projects[1] and become famous. (You get paid by Google for it, too). Student applications are open from Monday, March 28 to Friday, April 8. If you have a great project idea,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
??? It's trivial to interrupt and resume a ZFS send, full or incremental. It's a stream like any other. Just suspend the sending process. Job control in the shell works, but for production use I'd suggest writing a small program pair to do this over a socket interface. That would provide a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
I just realized you're probably wanting to copy your data to the new pool which is especially trivial. Just open a terminal window, start the send-receive and use job control to start and stop the stream as needed. If you need to shut the system down, you'll have to break up the stream using

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
A friend of mine who is a long time Linux user but with an interest in OpenIndiana and OpenBSD and NetBSD asked me to send the following. Message. A.S. -- Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece   > Gary Gender wrote: > For example, init 0 on Linux vs init 5 > on Solari

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread Mikolaj Walkiewicz
I got the following error while using gmake: "ld: fatal: file /usr/lib/xorg/libdrm.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 ld: fatal: file processing errors. No output written to .libs/radeon_drv.so collect2: ld returned 1 exit status gmake[2]: *** radeon_drv.la] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Eric A. Borisch
For those that have not seen it, this is a good place to start: "A Sysadmin's Unixersal Translator (ROSETTA STONE) OR What do they call that in this world?" http://bhami.com/rosetta.html -- Eric A. Borisch ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Al Slater
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/03/2011 15:00, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: > > > A friend of mine who is a long time Linux user but with > an interest in OpenIndiana and OpenBSD and NetBSD > asked me to send the following. Message. > > A.S. > > -- > Apos

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Jonathan Adams
Just to clarify; Our issue was we did a send and receive in the same pipe, when it died the receive died too, and that caused trouble. the send on it's own was alright, the receive caused problems. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discus

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
Not sure what you're trying to say. "zfs send snapshot | zfs receive filesystem" produced no filesystem when I killed the job prematurely after copying 1+ GB which makes good sense. Far better not to create a munged filesystem. Note I tried this w/ S10 U8. I certainly encountered no problem

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs incremental send?

2011-03-29 Thread Jonathan Adams
sure ... but maybe you're lucky ... whether or not it crashed your system, it definitely _did_ crash ours ... that was on an earlier version of ZFS, but I'm never going to do it again if I can help it ... we had support calls in with Sun to fix it ... they couldn't ... we managed to clone and pro

[OpenIndiana-discuss] updates question

2011-03-29 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Hi all I see there are some updates now, even creating a new BE - any ideas where I can find details about these? Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presentere

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
> > Unfortunately for your logic, that is exactly what I do.  I spend 95% of > my time using solaris, 1% of my time using linux and 4% on other > flavours of stuff.  They all have slight nuances and I have to learn > them.  It's not hard. >   Not everyone is a system administrator and not everyon

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Ethan Clark
You deciding to use a system because you dislike Windows is not a valid reason to begin arbitrarily changing long-standing, core components of that system. You should learn how to use the system you've decided upon using. On Mar 29, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >> >> Unfortu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Thommy M . Malmström
On 29 March 2011 20:02, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >> >> Unfortunately for your logic, that is exactly what I do.  I spend 95% of >> my time using solaris, 1% of my time using linux and 4% on other >> flavours of stuff.  They all have slight nuances and I have to learn >> them.  It's not hard. >>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI boot problem

2011-03-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 28-3-2011 14:02, Apostolos Syropoulos schreef: $ copy -x4 -z7 -q66 original_file new_file to copy a file? Apostolos, I think you perfectly know the solaris reboot command exists as a (simple) "shutdown 6" or if you want to go fast: "shutdown 6 now" what is so hard about this command? ___

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI boot problem

2011-03-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 28-3-2011 14:42, Dick Hoogendijk schreef: Op 28-3-2011 14:02, Apostolos Syropoulos schreef: $ copy -x4 -z7 -q66 original_file new_file to copy a file? Apostolos, I think you perfectly know the solaris reboot command exists as a (simple) "shutdown 6" or if you want to go fast: "shutdown 6

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread Mikolaj Walkiewicz
Apostolos, I configured as you told, but I also added --disable-kms to options. I finally managed to install the drivers which is huge progress and after few tests I found out that I had to do following things to get Xserver load the radeon driver $cp /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.* /us

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI boot problem

2011-03-29 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
> > Apostolos, I think you perfectly know the solaris reboot command exists as > a (simple) "shutdown 6" or if you want to go fast: "shutdown 6 > now" what is so hard about this command? > I'm sorry. Typo. Of course I ment init 6 > Yes of course, but that was not the point I was trying to make

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread Mikolaj Walkiewicz
Yep, unfortunately. Thanks for your time and help I will report that. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: > >Apostolos, > >I configured as > you told, but I also added --disable-kms to options. I finally managed > to > > >install the drivers which is huge progress and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 03/29/11 11:53 AM, Mikolaj Walkiewicz wrote: > (EE) RADEON(0): Chipset: "AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series" (ChipID = 0x6739) > requires KMS If it really requires KMS, then someone will need to spend a few months porting a KMS-capable kernel driver. You really are better off with nvidia graphics for S

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Gabriel de la Cruz
The Solaris OS was carefully designed as a product, Linux is a combination of technollogies carefully developed to interact with eachother but created in independent projects. Both of them a very well made, but the way how all the parts within Solaris relate to eachother is more consistent. Solari

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread ken mays
Hi Mikolaj, Great job on compiling the Xorg ATI Radeon 6.14.1 driver source. The Xorg Radeon developers may help. I'll review tweaking it for solaris/opensolaris for performance/implementation using user-mode setting/KMS. Usually you can place 'options radeon.modesetting=0' in /etc/modprobe*/r

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 03/29/11 01:52 PM, ken mays wrote: > Alan mentioned KMS is forthcoming, No, I didn't. As far as I know, no one is working on KMS of any flavor for illumos or openindiana, so I would never say it's forthcoming without hearing that someone had stepped up to do it. And while I can't speak to una

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fw: Re: ATI radeon hd 6850 gnome issue

2011-03-29 Thread ken mays
Hi Alan, You are correct in that you didn't mention KMS forthcoming for the AMD Radeon GPUs, only KMS support for Intel GPUs for Solaris 11. Nothing officially stated anywhere here. We have Nvidia 260.19.44 drivers and legacy/beta drivers for the Nvidia GPUs that work on OI and that is good e

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:15 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: The Solaris OS was carefully designed as a product, Linux is a combination of technollogies carefully developed to interact with eachother but created in independent projects. Both of them a very well made, but the way how all the p

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 07:51 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:15 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: > > The Solaris OS was carefully designed as a product, Linux is a > > combination of technollogies carefully developed to interact with > > eachother but created in indepe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Robin Axelsson
On 2011-03-30 01:51, Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:15 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: The Solaris OS was carefully designed as a product, Linux is a combination of technollogies carefully developed to interact with eachother but created in independent projects. Both of th

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on USB stick

2011-03-29 Thread Andrew Myers
Hi, I have a dell latitude E6400 laptop on which unfortunately I cannot seem to get OI working, unless I boot it from a USB stick (the Live CD will not boot). I have a feeling this has something to do with the hard drive controller, but I am not really enough of a tech head to figure it out. So

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on USB stick

2011-03-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley
In *theory* it can be done. Go look at the OpenSolaris Caiman package. It has a utility for that, usbgen. I've not gotten it to work, but I gave up fairly quickly as at that point I'd invested almost 3 weeks trying to find a way to clone S10 installs w/ a ZFS root. I'm highly *not* happy, but

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on USB stick

2011-03-29 Thread Lou Picciano
Andrew, Welcome to Oi! Yeah, a couple of us were just struggling with getting our old Dells to boot Oi - in my case, under duress! It can be a pain. Problem is probably in your grub setup. Check what you've got working in your USB stick (you only need about 2GB, btw), then transfer that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 08:00 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 07:51 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:15 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: The Solaris OS was carefully designed as a product, Linux is a combination of technollogies carefully develope

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 07:59 AM, Robin Axelsson wrote: On 2011-03-30 01:51, Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:15 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: The Solaris OS was carefully designed as a product, Linux is a combination of technollogies carefully developed to interact

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 09:03 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 08:00 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 07:51 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:15 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: > >>> The Solaris OS was carefully desig

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 30 March, 2011 10:22 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: Who ever said anything about K/Ubuntu, mon? Imho, Ubuntu is for lamers who're not quite bright enough to use a real operating system Let us hope that Unity won't get any OI support anytime soon, and most Linux users were lame and w

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris (Oh please...)

2011-03-29 Thread Gordon Ross
Oh please, Have some sense, and don't bother with this debate on this list. [ Solaris vs. Linux blah blah blah, gnome vs kde, blah blah blah! ] ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/lis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris

2011-03-29 Thread Christopher Chan
Yes, Kubuntu is a complete disaster. Not the KDE team's fault though I don't think. The Kubuntu devs botched it real bad. On another note, I have heard that users of KDE on OpenSolaris are happy with it? Who ever said anything about K/Ubuntu, mon? Imho, Ubuntu is for lamers who're not quite b

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris (Oh please...)

2011-03-29 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:42 AM, Gordon Ross wrote: Oh please, Have some sense, and don't bother with this debate on this list. [ Solaris vs. Linux blah blah blah, gnome vs kde, blah blah blah! ] I'd just like to see a real operating system become more mainstream. I wish I had the sk

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux vs. Solaris (Oh please...)

2011-03-29 Thread Bernd Helber
Do we really need this kind of discussion? To be honest is sounds like Kindergarten. With kind regards On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:19:52 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:42 AM, Gordon Ross wrote: >> Oh please, >> >> Have some sense, and don't bother with this debate

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New illumos based OpenIndiana test repo

2011-03-29 Thread Mark
On 29/03/2011 4:06 a.m., Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi All, This is an internal test and development repo for a forthcoming release; it's not a release in and of itself, so please don't update your day to day workstations to this. Only install this if you're interested in developing OpenIndiana+Il

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)

2011-03-29 Thread Mark
On 29/03/2011 4:44 a.m., Volker A. Brandt wrote: Jonathan Adams writes: If you're using a server then expect to know some of the commands for running the server. If you're using the desktop there is a nice graphical "Shutdown" routine. If you're in front of the hardware and you want to power dow

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)

2011-03-29 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 30.03.2011 08:53, Mark wrote: > On 29/03/2011 4:44 a.m., Volker A. Brandt wrote: >> Jonathan Adams writes: >>> If you're using a server then expect to know some of the commands for >>> running the server. If you're using the desktop there is a nice >>> graphical "Shutdown" routine. If you're in