Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-27 Thread Harry Putnam
David Johnson writes: > Does anyone have any editorial comments on how well ZFS is handled on > Openindiana > vs. Oracle Linux? It looks like these may be my only two choices if I > want to > have an OS that has native ZFS support, and allow me to get updated > security patches. Two points: 1)

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-24 Thread Hans J Albertsson
FreeNAS and FreeBSD both seem to run zfs w/o any extra effort on the installer's or user's part. Is my very limited experience of one install of each, both fairly recent versions. Hans J. Albertsson >From my Nexus 5 Den 21 apr. 2017 23:22 skrev "Andreas Wacknitz" : > > > Am 21.04.17 um 23:16 sch

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 21.04.17 um 23:16 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz: Am 21.04.17 um 22:10 schrieb jason matthews: On 4/21/17 11:36 AM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: I can't tell. It's a specialized distribution and I am currently evaluating it because SmartOS does not work well on my HP ProLiant DL360 G7. But I am

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 21.04.17 um 22:10 schrieb jason matthews: On 4/21/17 11:36 AM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: I can't tell. It's a specialized distribution and I am currently evaluating it because SmartOS does not work well on my HP ProLiant DL360 G7. But I am just recently started playing with it so I cannot

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread jason matthews
On 4/21/17 11:36 AM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: I can't tell. It's a specialized distribution and I am currently evaluating it because SmartOS does not work well on my HP ProLiant DL360 G7. But I am just recently started playing with it so I cannot say much about internal details yet. I would pr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread C. R. Oldham
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Doug Hughes wrote: > Not to Hijack, but: No worries. There is no substitute for the voice of experience. > I struggled with KVM on XFS for months before giving up. XFS is somewhat > fundamentally incompatible with qcow2. In our case we are using raw (required

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Doug Hughes
On 4/21/2017 2:06 PM, C. R. Oldham wrote: > For Ubuntu, it is an effort to get ZFS on the root partition. See > these wiki entries: > > https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu > > I have several machines installed with these instructions on 16.04, > 16.10, and 17.04. They do work, but it's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 21.04.17 um 20:25 schrieb C. R. Oldham: On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: Am 21.04.17 um 20:06 schrieb C. R. Oldham: Note that ZoL does have a couple of limitations that can make it challenging to use it as the backing store for KVM. That's interesting, Proxmox, a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, C. R. Oldham wrote: I haven't used Proxmox, maybe it is smart enough to restrict the caching options to what works best with ZFS? ZFS itself is a cache. It should not be necessary to add more caching on top of it as pertains to local storage. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread C. R. Oldham
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: > > Am 21.04.17 um 20:06 schrieb C. R. Oldham: >> Note that ZoL does have a couple of limitations that can make it >> challenging to use it as the backing store for KVM. > That's interesting, Proxmox, a Debian based distribution, can use Z

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 21.04.17 um 20:06 schrieb C. R. Oldham: For Ubuntu, it is an effort to get ZFS on the root partition. See these wiki entries: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu I have several machines installed with these instructions on 16.04, 16.10, and 17.04. They do work, but it's a pain

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread C. R. Oldham
For Ubuntu, it is an effort to get ZFS on the root partition. See these wiki entries: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu I have several machines installed with these instructions on 16.04, 16.10, and 17.04. They do work, but it's a pain to get it installed. Note that ZoL does have a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Andrew Gabriel
That would be any Illumos-based distro, FreeBSD (and FreeNAS), Ubuntu, and maybe Gentoo. I looked on the Oracle Linux web pages and blog, and there's no mention of ZFS anywhere. The Oracle Linux folks were very anti ZFS because they developed BTRFS and saw ZFS as a competitor, although I think

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Michael Schuster wrote: You can also have a look at FreeBSD Yes, FreeBSD has had ZFS for a long time and they are good about security updates. OpenIndiana has had ZFS from the beginning and the ZFS was written for its (Solaris) code base rather than needing to be ported

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread David Johnson
I might be using the wrong terminology, but by "native" I meant without doing any extra work. Some of the operating systems in your link are rumored to not work out of the box. An Oracle tech support rep. is the one who told me about the native support for ZFS in Oracle Linux. On 04/21/17 11:01,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Michael Schuster
You can also have a look at FreeBSD Cheers Michael On 21 Apr 2017 6:25 pm, "David Johnson" wrote: Does anyone have any editorial comments on how well ZFS is handled on Openindiana vs. Oracle Linux? It looks like these may be my only two choices if I want to have an OS that has native ZFS suppor

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread Andrew Gabriel
On 21/04/2017 18:24, David Johnson wrote: Does anyone have any editorial comments on how well ZFS is handled on Openindiana vs. Oracle Linux? It looks like these may be my only two choices if I want to have an OS that has native ZFS support, and allow me to get updated security patches. I'm

[OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS on Openindiana vs ZFS on oracle linux

2017-04-21 Thread David Johnson
Does anyone have any editorial comments on how well ZFS is handled on Openindiana vs. Oracle Linux? It looks like these may be my only two choices if I want to have an OS that has native ZFS support, and allow me to get updated security patches. Dave __