Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-02 Thread Michelle
It is a possibility, but LTO-8 drives are still £3,000+ for just the drive. The drive would also then be the weakest link, and quite an expensive one. With 10Tb NAS drives coming in at £300 each, that's £1,200 for four drives with 30Tb capacity at RaidZ. An extra as spare, or two extras for RaidZ2

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-02 Thread s...@pandora.be
I have only read this thread very superficially, but LTO tape (linear tape open) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open LTO-8 has native raw capacity of about 12TB so attaching a LTO-8 drive may be an option. The same page says, by the way, that LTO-9 is supposed to have 18TB native

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-02 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Michelle writes: > This remains one question ... can drives and partitions be mixed in a > ZFS pool? Sure, but I wouldn't do it. Just put identically-sized slices (say, 2 TB or maybe 1 TB) on all of your disks, as many as will fit on each physical disk. Next, create mirrored pairs from two slic

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 8:52 PM Michelle wrote: > Good advice. Thanks for taking the time. > > This remains one question ... can drives and partitions be mixed in a > ZFS pool? > > This project is a backup project which is actually a backup of a > backup, if that makes sense. > > The original data

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Michelle
Good advice. Thanks for taking the time. This remains one question ... can drives and partitions be mixed in a ZFS pool? This project is a backup project which is actually a backup of a backup, if that makes sense. The original data is spread across two servers, one running OI (the main data sto

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 2:55 PM Michelle wrote: > I'm trying to achieve a resilient way of bringing together all my older > drives for a backup solution using scraps of whatever I can get my > hands on. > > I have closing on 12TB of data so even the 10 won't be enough to back > everything up, but

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Michelle
You're perfectly correct. After I put the command together, I realised that I'd made a mistake in putting raidz in there. The balance of partitions and using those instead of drives... I hadn't thought of that. I guess I'm just too used to thinking at the drive level for ZFS. On Wed, 2021-12-0

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread James
On 01/12/2021 11:55, Michelle wrote: I have closing on 12TB of data so even the 10 won't be enough to back everything up, but this is as much for the exercise of doing it, as achieving anything solid. It won't be under pressure, but I'd rather push the envelope and see what I can do. So how woul

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Michelle
I'm trying to achieve a resilient way of bringing together all my older drives for a backup solution using scraps of whatever I can get my hands on. I have closing on 12TB of data so even the 10 won't be enough to back everything up, but this is as much for the exercise of doing it, as achieving a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread James
On 01/12/2021 08:31, Michelle wrote: Say I was to put a 2tb, three 4tb and a 6tb together (a 2 and two 4 would make 10 and the other 4 and the 6 would also make 10) Would that be possible with ZFS now? I think it has always been possible, ask is is sensible? Try it, if you have nothing to lo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Michelle
That's a workable solution. As you say, not as elegant as RAID, and if one drive went down on the live set, it would render the share inaccessible... but it would work in principle. Thanks for the suggestion. On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 13:22 +0300, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 11:32 AM Michelle wrote: > This is probably going to be a stupid question, as I know that several > year ago, the answer to this question would be no... but times change. > > Like many people, I have a collection of disparate drives sitting > around doing nothing. > > I was

[OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS 0+1 across disparate drives

2021-12-01 Thread Michelle
This is probably going to be a stupid question, as I know that several year ago, the answer to this question would be no... but times change. Like many people, I have a collection of disparate drives sitting around doing nothing. I was thinking of getting them together in a RAID 1+0 configuration