Funny discussion!! It's like being in the Oracle boardroom around the time they
took over Sun.
"Do we close the code?"
"Who will develop?"
"Who can develop?"
"Who will fund it?"
"How to manage the roadmap?"
What we do forget is that installing an OS can take 1 to 180 minutes. But
maintaining i
Hmm, maybe the situation is not that bad after all...
Consider the recent OI releases, each containing hundreds of updated packages
with respect to the previous one. I didn't track this in detail, but it seems
very likely that many of these updates also addressed security issues. That
would mean
Oh, and by the way - some of the problems with recruiting at universities are:
1) the students tend to be busy with their studies, 2) they are still in the
process of acquiring the skills, 3) they lack experience, and 4) they tend to
want to make a lot right off if you're considering hiring them
If you want security updates, there's no reason why some of you can't
get together and start your own business offering these updates for a
fee. OI is open source. You wouldn't necessarily have to start your
own distribution, although you could do that, too. But the code base
is out there. Yo
On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:26 AM, James Relph wrote:
>> If you want security updates, there's no reason why some of you can't get
>> together and start your own business offering these updates for a fee. OI
>> is open source. You wouldn't necessarily have to start your own
>> distribution, althou
> If you want security updates, there's no reason why some of you can't get
> together and start your own business offering these updates for a fee. OI is
> open source. You wouldn't necessarily have to start your own distribution,
> although you could do that, too. But the code base is out t
On 02/19/2013 12:10 PM, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Fact #1 - The OI Community seems to be filled with a whole lot more people
> asking for features than there are developers to implement them. Some of
> these are reasonable requests, too, but there just simply aren't that many
> people
Fact #1 - The OI Community seems to be filled with a whole lot more people
asking for features than there are developers to implement them. Some of these
are reasonable requests, too, but there just simply aren't that many people
actually working on OI to make them all possible even if the deve
On 2013-02-19 16:38, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
I'm tired of this discussion. In short, if OI were to reverse on its
open-development promise, it will lead to its demise. It's not like
there aren't alternatives available.
I am not trying to discourage or disprove of any solution.
I don't argue for
On 02/19/2013 03:12 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
> On 2013-02-19 14:38, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
>> You don't get access to RedHat's repos without paying. There are some
>> portions of the code that CentOS doesn't ship (such as the policy
>> enforcement libraries). In this respect, RHEL is closer to what Sola
On 2013-02-19 14:38, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
You don't get access to RedHat's repos without paying. There are some
portions of the code that CentOS doesn't ship (such as the policy
enforcement libraries). In this respect, RHEL is closer to what Solaris
was before the Oracle takeover (a closed-source
On 02/19/2013 02:23 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
> I believe RedHat and its spin-offs (Fedora as a bleeding edge
> experiment, and CentOS as a rebadged clone) have set a nice
> example here, especially the latter. All the source is open as
> GPL requires, and AFAIK CentOS is a rebuild of the same code in
On 2013-02-19 13:25, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
It might seem like a fine idea for a business, but for me this is a deal
breaker. I have lots of OI systems, some for personal use, some for
business use, and all of them need security fixes. I don't want to have
to pay for support on machines which gener
1:25 PM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
On 02/19/2013 12:41 PM, "Weiergräber, Oliver H." wrote:
> Moreover, providing security fixes has been a defined goal of OpenIndiana
> right from the beginning.
>
> See the F
On 02/19/2013 12:41 PM, "Weiergräber, Oliver H." wrote:
> Moreover, providing security fixes has been a defined goal of OpenIndiana
> right from the beginning.
>
> See the FAQ:
>
> Q: Will OpenIndiana provide security and bug fixes to their stable releases?
> A: Yes, absolutely. We view this as
: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
Is out
On 19/02/2013 12:41, "Weiergräber, Oliver H." wrote:
Moreover, providing security fixes has been a defined goal of OpenIndiana right
from the beginning.
See the FAQ:
Q: Will OpenIndiana provide security and bug fixes to their stable releases?
A: Yes, absolutely. We view this as one of the key
list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
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> On 28/01/13 02:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
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>>> Is o
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY
interested in a security supported version.
How much are you wi
Jesus Cea wrote:
On 28/01/13 02:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY
interested in a security supported version.
How much are you willing to pay for this service?
Oracle charges $1k/year per socket.
I
--- On Mon, 2/18/13, Jesus Cea wrote:
> From: Jesus Cea
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"
> Date: Monday, February 18, 2013, 11:47 AM
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On 28/01/13 02:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
>>
>> Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY
>> interested in a security supported version.
>
> How much are you willing to pay for this servic
> Which is fine to some extent, but what that has led to are a lot of quite
> specific solutions for situations not everyone is in (SmartOS is obviously
> heavily cloud-oriented) or companies very focussed on selling (not
> necessarily cheap) support. I'd quite like to see OpenIndiana thrive as
> As I understand it the strategy was always to encourage the proliferation of
> solution providers and integrators to fulfill this function.These It was
> thought would form in the market where a stable release,sufficient
> development had taken place to provide significant market penetration a
On 28/01/2013 13:55, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
How much are you willing to pay for this service?
Correct me if I am wrong, but "roadmap" and "paid services" are
different things.
The fact that OI is an open source and community driven project does
not mean a "no roadmap" strategy.
- Dmitry.
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Martin,
Is there any way to provide funds other than paypal?
I'm in the States, if that makes any difference.
Either way, thank you for all your efforts towards SPARC, they are
appreciated.
Jerry
On 01/29/13 01:11 AM, Volker A. Brandt wrote:
> Reginald Beardsley writes:
>> I'd like to sugges
Or still one thing that troubles me: Everybody who ever donates to
this project goes into a dedicated SPONSORS section.
Ken Mays already offered us to help with our wiki and web-page. This
means we will have a nice site quite soon :)
Based on the other slide-show and web-page that I had prepped
)))THANK YOU)
Sorry, last msg. for today before the upload completes, must pack
boxes w/o accidently touching the half-broken dsl cable.
off the screen now ...
%martin
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Frank Lahm wrote:
> 2013/1/29 Martin Bochnig :
>> PayPal-Guthaben: -$378,99 USD
>
> To
2013/1/29 Martin Bochnig :
> PayPal-Guthaben: -$378,99 USD
Took care of $78,99 USD. Hth!
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Volker A. Brandt wrote:
> Reginald Beardsley writes:
>> I'd like to suggest funding Martin. He's committed and needs the
>> money. Even as little as $50US per site would certainly help him a lot.
>
> +1
>
>> Is there someone who can get him online to discuss this?
Reginald Beardsley writes:
> I'd like to suggest funding Martin. He's committed and needs the
> money. Even as little as $50US per site would certainly help him a lot.
+1
> Is there someone who can get him online to discuss this?
That is a problem. Martin, please speak up!
Regards -- Volker
--- On Mon, 1/28/13, James Relph wrote:
> From: James Relph
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"
> Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 4:49 PM
> > Would a Kickstarter project to
> fund an OI support gro
> Would a Kickstarter project to fund an OI support group be possible? The
> problem is you need a certain level of commitments to justify setting up a
> support operation.
>
> I was quite happy to pay Sun for a 3 year Gold level contract on my Ultra 20
> when I bought it. $250/yr to fund s
--- On Mon, 1/28/13, James Relph wrote:
> From: James Relph
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"
> Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 11:31 AM
> > This sort of thing is more
> easily done if th
> This sort of thing is more easily done if the people doing the work receive
> compensation for it rather than doing the work in their spare time from a
> different paying job.
>
> If there was an "OpenIndiana Foundation" which could receive
> contributions/payments, then it would be possible
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
How much are you willing to pay for this service?
Correct me if I am wrong, but "roadmap" and "paid services" are different
things.
The fact that OI is an open source and community driven project does not mean
a "no roadmap" strategy.
I was refer
How much are you willing to pay for this service?
Correct me if I am wrong, but "roadmap" and "paid services" are
different things.
The fact that OI is an open source and community driven project does not
mean a "no roadmap" strategy.
- Dmitry.
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On 01/28/13 02:43 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
>>
>> Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY
>> interested in a security supported version.
>
> How much are you willing to pay for this service?
>
> Oracle charges $1k/year per socket.
Yes,
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY
interested in a security supported version.
How much are you willing to pay for this service?
Oracle charges $1k/year per socket.
Bob
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