Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-25 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
https://docs.zen-browser.app/building --Apostolos Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece On Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 12:25:55 PM GMT, Till Wegmueller wrote: Zen Browser looks firefox based? Interesting but I don't see any code other than the Interface. Looks like a love

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-25 Thread Till Wegmueller
Zen Browser looks firefox based? Interesting but I don't see any code other than the Interface. Looks like a lovely concept though. We have two image builders more guides on the new one make some sense. -Till On 24.02.25 20:45, Dr Peter jones wrote: Would like to see more browser video confe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-24 Thread Dr Peter jones
Would like to see more browser video conferencing on new zen browser for workstations Full list of ThinkPad models components which will run oios More construction information on building personal USB live media for security and diagnostic tools. On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 4:30 PM Till Wegmüller w

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Sure would be something (unlikely :-( ) if they could be begged or wheedled into re-opening it a couple years before pulling the plug, whenever that might be, so others could take it over. Updating work others have done on ARM64 and on a z/VM guest would be interesting, to say the least. And I g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith via openindiana-discuss
On 2/5/25 09:24, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: The desktop has never (except one experimental 3D thing that I forget the name of, that didn't last) That would have been Project Looking Glass. been its strong point, but I suspect that's had a very few people working it, who also had userland dut

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith via openindiana-discuss
On 2/5/25 08:53, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) wrote: as Oracle pulls the plug on Solaris (which will happen in 2031). Oracle is currently offering Solaris support until November 2037. -alan- ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 03-02-2025 17:29, Till Wegmüller wrote: ... What are your Painpoints? mozo (main menu editor) is a constant crasher, it crashes on almost every touch, or even on just staring at it. Should definitely be overhauled. -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.of Meteorology & Climate Research IMKASF-SAT https:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 05-02-2025 17:30, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: ... and, talking of speed and meteorological modelling, cuda support would be great. Don't really know if that counts for desktop or backend, we have our linux-gpu-servers in a rack and well cooled. I would love to have those running OI underneath, would

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
so OI is focused only on desktop? No, OI is the server part PLUS desktop. We use single image OI for both our desktops and servers for various purposes. ok, thought, but was suddenly unclear because of the last posting OI supports real ACLs because it builds on stock illumos. sure, and illum

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Stephan Althaus
On 2/5/25 17:15, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: Actually T8’s are still rather powerful for machine with GA 2017;) but of course, PCIe 3.0 and DDR4 are what they are... rgds, toomas Hey! Fujitsu won't sell SPARC beyond 2029, current is SPARC64™ XII 3.2-4.25GHz https://www.fujit

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 5. Feb 2025, at 17:10, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) > wrote: > > > > On 05-02-2025 16:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: >> [..] - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) >>> >>> Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test >>> with, old SPARC systems are way

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 5. Feb 2025, at 17:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > > [..] >>> - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) >> >> Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test with, >> old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate build >> versus 4-5 or

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
[..] - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test with, old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate build versus 4-5 or more hours). In short, we should be looking into the future (get ARM6

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 05-02-2025 16:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: [..] - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test with, old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate build versus 4-5 or more hours). In short, we s

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 5. Feb 2025, at 15:41, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > > Hi Till, > > srm/projects use case, you asked:) > > I run courses on shell scripting for beginners at a university. I did > this with an old sunray environment on oracle solaris, which minimizes > the workload of setting up a course ful

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 03:20:11PM +0100, Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Am 05.02.25 14:57 schrieb Marcel Telka : > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > > so, adding to the wishlist:) > > > - please put back the libraries needed for sunray on OI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
On the OI box with 30 xdmcp called x-sessions, if one user runs over the max-lwps boundary, all x-sessions of all 30 users get killed in that case. That's not right. Are you running xdm as an SMF service? it is, manifest as follows:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss
Am 05.02.25 14:57 schrieb Marcel Telka : > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > so, adding to the wishlist:) > > - please put back the libraries needed for sunray on OI > > We need somebody to sit down and put together the list of files that are > needed for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:41 PM Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > Hi Till, > > srm/projects use case, you asked:) > > I run courses on shell scripting for beginners at a university. I did > this with an old sunray environment on oracle solaris, which minimizes > the workload of setting up a course full of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > so, adding to the wishlist:) > - please put back the libraries needed for sunray on OI We need somebody to sit down and put together the list of files that are needed for sunray. We only have this: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
Hi Till, srm/projects use case, you asked:) I run courses on shell scripting for beginners at a university. I did this with an old sunray environment on oracle solaris, which minimizes the workload of setting up a course full of desktop systems. For a change I setup a box with OI, netbooted som

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Peter Tribble
On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 6:08 PM Ignacio Soriano Hernandez via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Hi Till, > > Looks like beating a dead horse but here we go: > > - GNOME 3 desktop > So I'm interested in precisely what part of GNOME 3 would be beneficial. Is it the overall user interface or any specific

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-04 Thread Paul Graff via openindiana-discuss
Hello there and thank you for your efforts with openindiana. - I would like to mention USB automount support with MATE. Bug #13711 Bug #16418 LImited testing here by Inserting a few various usb devices (usb flash drive mediums) with various filesystems, formatting, etc. A usb containing a bootabl

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-04 Thread Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss
Am 03.02.25 18:42 schrieb "Rolf M. Dietze" : > > Hi, > this thread is actually very welcome to me. > > I had 2 issues that refrained me from using OI as a regular > desktop system, that was the rather old firefox, but as far > as I know, Carsten Grzemba made this problem vanish, thanks > for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
Hi Till, me to, adding to the wish list: cuda support /Rolf Quoting Ignacio Soriano Hernandez via openindiana-discuss : Hi Till, Looks like beating a dead horse but here we go: - Accelerated gfx support for mobile (Laptop) devices (NVIDIA/AMD) - Power management - Updated WiFi drive

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Stephan Althaus
On 2/3/25 18:42, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: We are mostly running xfce, twm  and alike, no gnome or mate, they are too slow and unhandy to our users. Hi! i now use windowmaker within my vnc sessions to my oi box when i need to, i miss xrdp a bit because for the lack of sound with vnc.. Integrated

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Gary Mills
On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 05:29:51PM +0100, Till Wegmüller wrote: > In a first step to address those I would also like to collect Feedback from > the community on those Painpoints and collect other Reasons OpenIndiana does > not work as a main driver even if you want to use it. I can tell you what

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Goetz T. Fischer via openindiana-discuss
and not to forget librewolf, which has been in the repo for some time now :-) and for even more variety there're the independent palemoon builds for solaris and illumos: ftp://ftp.palemoon.org/sunos/ On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 19:41:19 +0100, Till Wegmueller wrote: > For this specifically I would like t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Till Wegmueller
For this specifically I would like to thank Geoff Weiss for keeping it up to date. He has made sure we have the best Firefox experience possible for quite some time. -Till On 03.02.25 18:42, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, this thread is actually very welcome to me. I had 2 issues that refrained m

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Till Wegmueller
The nvidia thing is an interesting mention I wonder how much libglvnd will improve that situation with versions. It helps a lot with different vendors and would replace ogl-select -Till On 03.02.25 18:53, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) wrote: On 03-02-2025 18:42, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, this thr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Till Wegmueller
I Know :) But good to hear it nonetheless. Gfx is being worked on. Some more fixes to the kernel driver/libdrm interaction then it should be ready for testing. -Till On 03.02.25 19:07, Ignacio Soriano Hernandez wrote: Hi Till, Looks like beating a dead horse but here we go: - Accelerated gf

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Till Wegmueller
Hi Rolf, Can you go into details on how SRM/projects is an issue for you? This is the first time I hear it mentioned. Would love to hear how more and how you would like to use it. -Till On 03.02.25 18:42, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, this thread is actually very welcome to me. I had 2 issues

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Ignacio Soriano Hernandez via openindiana-discuss
Hi Till, Looks like beating a dead horse but here we go: - Accelerated gfx support for mobile (Laptop) devices (NVIDIA/AMD) - Power management - Updated WiFi drivers - GNOME 3 desktop Cheers Iggi > Am 03.02.2025 um 17:29 schrieb Till Wegmüller : > > Hello all > > During FOSDEM I had a talk

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Marcel Telka
On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 06:53:22PM +0100, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) wrote: > with older gear as firefox is now a memory hog). For the NVIDIA cards, > there's a palette of old and new drivers that should cover all existing > cards: > > driver/graphics/nvidia-340 340.108-2022.0.0.1 > driver/graphic

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 03-02-2025 18:42, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: Hi, this thread is actually very welcome to me. I had 2 issues that refrained me from using OI as a regular desktop system, that was the rather old firefox, but as far as I know, Carsten Grzemba made this problem vanish, thanks for that, it was a key

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
Hi, this thread is actually very welcome to me. I had 2 issues that refrained me from using OI as a regular desktop system, that was the rather old firefox, but as far as I know, Carsten Grzemba made this problem vanish, thanks for that, it was a key issue. And a lot of driver problems with older

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Till Wegmüller
A quick follow up. Please include Bugtracker references if you have them. And if you don't please have a quick search if one exists, that would help us reduce the bug trackers backlog. https://www.illumos.org/projects/openindiana/issues?set_filter=1 On 03.02.25 17:29, Till Wegmüller wrote: He

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-03 Thread Till Wegmüller
Hello all During FOSDEM I had a talk with a couple people about Desktop Painpoints and how they would like to use OpenIndiana as their daily driver but a couple of things are just not working or toomuch effort. In a first step to address those I would also like to collect Feedback from the c