Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-11-09 Thread Gary Gendel
On 11/09/2015 01:55 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Philip Robar wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the thing that both Jerry's administrator friend and David are missing is that ZFS data redundancy isn't just a "sexy" form of reliability. It is also provides

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-11-09 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Philip Robar wrote: > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the thing that both Jerry's > administrator friend and David are missing is that ZFS data redundancy > isn't just a "sexy" form of reliability. It is also provides data > integrity, i.e. with redundancy ZFS

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-11-08 Thread Jim Klimov
7 ноября 2015 г. 21:55:15 CET, Philip Robar пишет: >On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:47 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Jerry Kemp > >> wrote: >> >> > I have a (Solaris admin) friend at another company who apparently >has > >> quite a few friends/colleagues/etc who are ru

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-11-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015, Philip Robar wrote: corrupt, with redundancy it can fix the problem. With a single drive ZFS pool you give up that integrity and there's a good chance that any data corruption will then be passed on to your backup before ZFS flags it resulting in the loss of that data. I exp

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-11-07 Thread Philip Robar
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:47 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Jerry Kemp > wrote: > > > I have a (Solaris admin) friend at another company who apparently has > quite a few friends/colleagues/etc who are running Solaris or some Solaris > > based distro at home for ZF

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-11-06 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > From a high level view, his comment to them is to NOT run a mirror. His > suggestion to them is to just run a straight drive, then every evening or > downtime, bring the other disk(s) online and sync them with the online > master, using rsync

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-29 Thread Rainer Heilke
So, last night, the resilvering was still running on the only (original) drive in the zpool. When I checked in at 5:00 AM, and it was finished. (There were "too many errors" on the disk, and said to run a zpool clear. I'm thinking now that I should have done a dd right away, but foggy with slee

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-29 Thread Rainer Heilke
Jason has been suggesting this, or some other variant of it. With the current problems I'm having, I'll be looking at doing something along these lines once I'm back up and running. Rainer On 28/10/2015 12:02 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: Absolutely Bob, I know that the OP wasn't happy to hear it,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-28 Thread Rainer Heilke
On 28/10/2015 1:47 PM, jason matthews wrote: Let me apologize in advanced for inter-mixing comments. Ditto. I am not trying to be a dick (it happens naturally), but if you cant afford to backup terabytes of data, then you cant afford to have terabytes of data. That is a meaningless stateme

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-28 Thread jason matthews
Let me apologize in advanced for inter-mixing comments. On 10/27/15 7:44 PM, Rainer Heilke wrote: I am not trying to be a dick (it happens naturally), but if you cant afford to backup terabytes of data, then you cant afford to have terabytes of data. That is a meaningless statement, that re

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-28 Thread Jerry Kemp
Absolutely Bob, I know that the OP wasn't happy to hear it, but Jason made a very good (reply) post that shared the comments that I'm sure that we were all thinking. I have a (Solaris admin) friend at another company who apparently has quite a few friends/colleagues/etc who are running Solari

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 27 Oct 2015, jason matthews wrote: People who buy giant ass disks and then complain about how long it takes to resilver a giant ass disk are out of their minds. They remind me of morons that buy houses next airports and then complain about the noise of airplanes. It is difficult to b

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-27 Thread Rainer Heilke
On 27/10/2015 4:48 PM, jason matthews wrote: This is probably not the appropriate time, given your state of mind is not likely accepting this sort of advice at this point in time, to remind you that mirrors and backups serve two different purposes and are not equivalent things. I know this, th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-27 Thread jason matthews
If I had a nickel for every time someone told me, "I don't have a backup." I am just going to go on a generalized rant... and then return to next steps. This is probably not the appropriate time, given your state of mind is not likely accepting this sort of advice at this point in time, to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-27 Thread Rainer Heilke
I don't have a backup. I can't afford the gear to back up terabytes of data, which is why I had the zpool on mirrored disks to begin with. Rainer On 27/10/2015 12:30 PM, jason matthews wrote: You may want to consider restoring from backup. j. On 10/27/15 7:00 AM, Rainer Heilke wrote: Gre

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-27 Thread jason matthews
You may want to consider restoring from backup. j. On 10/27/15 7:00 AM, Rainer Heilke wrote: Greetings. Some of you may remember that I had a couple disk failures recently. One of those disk was the mirror for all of my critical data. The problem is that, no matter what I do, I cannot get

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Broken zpool

2015-10-27 Thread Rainer Heilke
Greetings. Some of you may remember that I had a couple disk failures recently. One of those disk was the mirror for all of my critical data. The problem is that, no matter what I do, I cannot get the data zpool functioning: OpenIndiana (powered by illumos)SunOS 5.11oi_151a9May 20