[OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC

2011-02-23 Thread Nathan Evans
IS OI available for SPARC yet? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No timeslider... what gives

2010-12-03 Thread Nathan Evans
On 2 December 2010 22:28, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > Harry: > > You seem to be facing many problems with your current OI install, > which no one else has faced so far. > > Is a reinstall an option for you? > > I don't know if this will help. Last year i did an install of SXDE and installed it on U

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling your own distro

2010-11-26 Thread Nathan Evans
Hello All, I have an idea for building my own distribution of OpenIndiana on sparc but I have NO IDEA how to build a distribution. Can somebody make a tutorial to get me started? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org htt

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-19 Thread Nathan Evans
Somebody should 'plain english' the new EULA for Solaris 11. That way we can compare the licensing advantages of OpenIndiana. On 16 November 2010 06:52, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: > Ummm S11 can upgrade from Opensolaris... maybe OpenIndiana could upgrade > from Solaris 11.. so the vendor lockup g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SunStudio

2010-11-18 Thread Nathan Evans
On 18 November 2010 11:01, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: > > I agree whole heartedly with you, however trying to find a decent > opensource > > JVM that Oracle doesn't or can't control is nearly impossible. I love > Java > > and switching to LLVM is to costly in terms of hours spent learning it.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SunStudio

2010-11-18 Thread Nathan Evans
> > With Solaris, it is preferred to build with Sun Studio, and to use gcc > > only if you can't get something to build with cc/CC. > > Indeed, but here we are talking about OpenSolaris and OpenIndiana! > We *must* abandon the use of cc/CC and instead we *must* make > gcc and LLVM our tools. Even

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-17 Thread Nathan Evans
Best to avoid bad licenses, as soon as OI is available for SPARC I plan on backing up my Sunfire v210 and reinstalling. NO WAY am i going to let Oracle dictate how i am going to use MY software. Whats worse, I'm a developer... as a developer I refuse to support any company that forces me to pay the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-05 Thread Nathan Evans
On 5 November 2010 13:05, Nikola M wrote: > Christopher Chan wrote: > > Ubuntu is currently one big mess and their LTS release policies are > > laughable. Yeah, I have a stable version of Pidgin but it did not do > > Yahoo anymore on Hardy well before Lucid got released. > */Starting ubuntu part.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Comments by Scott McNealy

2010-11-05 Thread Nathan Evans
> The iron man prefers promoting his balls, but he should focus on different > features; for example if you compare a self tuning Solaris kernel with the > linux bare metal work he should swap to the Tampax style: > > "Are you tired of compiling your kernel every month, Solaris makes you > happy".

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-05 Thread Nathan Evans
> I mean the burning each other... sorry comments gets wild :-D > j/k lol > Cheers > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Nathan Evans >wrote: > > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http:/

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-05 Thread Nathan Evans
> Well, yes there are flames, and witches burned alive, but we are learning > to > behave. ;-D hopefully, > Larry Ellison is not a witch at least I don't think so. > Nice thread > Thanks! > Love > Gab I'm married, and i don't know you that well, so I'll just say nice to met you? ___

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-05 Thread Nathan Evans
It is really good to see all this discussion and speculation about OI and Illumos. I have yet to see anybody flame somebody over an opinion or statement. Most of the statements have been thoughtful, well informed, and well supported arguments. Wonderful example of a strong opensource community. _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-05 Thread Nathan Evans
> Case in point - SF15K I'm working on which was bought with UltraSPARC > III CPUs, had some faster ones put in, then some UltraSPARC IVs, then > some faster ones of those, and then some UltraSPARC T2s. All without > downtime, ending up with domains which have different speeds > UltraSPARC IVs in t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
Well you raise a good point. Lets not make the same mistakes that others have made. Learn from history so we don't repeat it, that will make the community stand out, thats what we want. We want people to know that we are here to continue the innovation that solaris and sun represented. So instead

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
are already there, so a > "comfort" > stack over such a strong base is something greatly appreciated, for > whatever > kind of admin. > > Cheers > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Nathan Evans >wrote: > > > I copied the above message to it's own th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
No you are correct, I've read it already. This model worked for Redhat before it was split into 2 separate projects. I figured why not skip a step. On 4 November 2010 10:50, Jonathan Adams wrote: > > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Frequently+Asked+Questions#FrequentlyAskedQuestions-IsOpenIndian

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
I think Guido, our friend Jonathan means that not unlike alot of other distrobutions of UNIX-like operating systems, it might be a good idea to create a Desktop and A server version. This is not a horrible idea, like the fedora/Redhat projects respectively. However the SXDE/Solaris model function

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linker problem

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
quick hack. create a symbolic link see if that works. On 4 November 2010 10:25, Ewald Ertl wrote: > Hi Paul, > > > I'm getting the same error. > > > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Paul Johnston < > paul.a.johns...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > > > I'm moving from OpenSolaris to OpenIndiana but

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
he core apps and usability apps repositories, I would > suggest another cutting edge repository with the latest versions of > all apps (Mozilla/Adobe this means you) and worry less about trying to > remain stable and known. > > But this is not really anything to do with me. > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Longterm Support? And Oracle Java legal to use on OpenIndiana?

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
. *Surely* they're not going to pull an OpenSolaris on > *all* this stuff though. > > > On 11/04/10 08:34, Nathan Evans wrote: > >> Me too... >> we may have to inovate with OpenJDK >> >> On 3 November 2010 19:02, Lou Picciano wrote: >&g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Longterm Support? And Oracle Java legal to use on OpenIndiana?

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
Me too... we may have to inovate with OpenJDK On 3 November 2010 19:02, Lou Picciano wrote: > I"m hoping it's legal, too! We also have big plans for GlassFish on Oi. > > > (Should we be concerned about anything?) > > > Lou Picciano > > - Original Message - > From: "Darko Hojnik" > To: o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
I copied the above message to it's own thread I didn't spell check it or anything . On 4 November 2010 08:07, Nathan Evans wrote: > Who cares who can sue who, > Well, the problem is here how do we market OpenIndiana and all this open > source software effectively, how do we

[OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
Who cares who can sue who, Well, the problem is here how do we market OpenIndiana and all this open source software effectively, how do we grow the community in a positive meaningful way. How to we make OpenIndiana & Illumos viable alternatives and brands that people can trust. The 33 people who l

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Evans
Who cares who can sue who, Well, the problem is here how do we market OpenIndiana and all this open source software effectively, how do we grow the community in a positive meaningful way. How to we make OpenIndiana & Illumos viable alternatives and brands that people can trust. The 33 people who l

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-03 Thread Nathan Evans
true, but we have that too. On 3 November 2010 00:29, BM wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Nathan Evans > wrote: > > We have your portal software. > > Not the best one. Liferay is still way better than their. :) > > -- > Kind regards, BM > > Things,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sunsolve retires today

2010-11-02 Thread Nathan Evans
October 2010 12:46, Nathan Evans wrote: > > Oh sorry, didn't read the entire e-mail > > > > Correction everybody, Friday November 19 is the retirement day for > sunsolve. > > > > and Remember, it pays to read email carefully, even if it from Oracle. > > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-02 Thread Nathan Evans
WOW! Oracle really lost out when they started pushing the Sun/Open Source communities around now didn't they. Effectively pushing the open office brands worth into the toilet. Well done Larry, well done. Next question is, how much more pushing are you willing to do. We have your operating system

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-01 Thread Nathan Evans
You're more then likely right, look at GNU all it took was one mans Kernel and viola Now most UNIX(not including FreeBSD/OpenBSD) in comparison don't have a fighting chance on smaller systems and reside mostly in niche markets. On 1 November 2010 21:18, BM wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

2010-11-01 Thread Nathan Evans
I wouldn't mind hosting binary ISO images. Let me know if this is needed and/or wanted. Keep in mind I am still on residential DSL.(hopefully will be shortly remedied). On 1 November 2010 17:12, James O'Gorman wrote: > On 1 Nov 2010, at 21:10, bernd wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > i would be inter

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-01 Thread Nathan Evans
Agreed, I am in the same position. I recently purchased an EOL SunFire v210 as a supplement to my network for extended services. Most of my Network is dedicated to development. Now since it is a SPARC I have few options available. Knowing weather or not Solaris 11 will be free to the masses is som

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-01 Thread Nathan Evans
nflux of investor capital. again off topic commencing the shutting of face. On 1 November 2010 10:19, Nathan Evans wrote: > you forgot to mention James Gosling. > > > On 1 November 2010 09:29, Edward Martinez wrote: > >> >> On 11/01/10 01:41, Michael wrote: >> &g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

2010-11-01 Thread Nathan Evans
you forgot to mention James Gosling. On 1 November 2010 09:29, Edward Martinez wrote: > > On 11/01/10 01:41, Michael wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 07:07, Edward Martinez >> wrote: >> >>> On 10/31/10 02:54, Paul Johnston wrote: >>> . Each discussion is led by a Solaris engineering or

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hello All

2010-10-30 Thread Nathan Evans
Hello Adrian, Nice to meet you. Welcome to the mailing list. mostly useful information unless it's me speaking in which case you can usually pipe the majority of my comments to /dev/null I myself just recently joined the mailing list. I am 30yo computer Programmer in Northern Ontario I am a Solaris

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sunsolve retires today

2010-10-30 Thread Nathan Evans
is to it's forehead=- On 30 October 2010 07:35, James O'Gorman wrote: > On 30 Oct 2010, at 12:25, Nathan Evans wrote: > > > sad to watch pieces of sun die off one by one. > > Where have you seen that it's retiring today? There's nothing on Sunsolve > at t

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sunsolve retires today

2010-10-30 Thread Nathan Evans
sad to watch pieces of sun die off one by one. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-29 Thread Nathan Evans
times over would be welcome... > On Oct 29, 2010 11:55 AM, "Nathan Evans" > wrote: > > I wonder if it would be worth the trouble to scrape names of the packages > > from each of the distributions repositories. > > Output each to a text file and compare them. That migh

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-29 Thread Nathan Evans
I wonder if it would be worth the trouble to scrape names of the packages from each of the distributions repositories. Output each to a text file and compare them. That might make an interesting study. see which packages are included in all the distributions and and which are only included in each

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Work desktop now running OpenIndiana.

2010-10-29 Thread Nathan Evans
lol i barely use sudo this is how I do it. sudo bash. Done. On 29 October 2010 10:24, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 14:27, Andrew Watkins > wrote: > >> - Default user not a Primary Administrator > > > > I think that was recently changed, don't know exact r

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-29 Thread Nathan Evans
e among major *nix distributions in not including WebKit. There are a > number of packages like this that I have been looking into, and I'd be > happy > to contribute to identifying important software that should be included. > On Oct 29, 2010 8:55 AM, "Nathan Evans" >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-29 Thread Nathan Evans
Yep, Mind you the releases between Debian Stable states, is pretty far between and really not that fair. Now if you compare to Slackware stable releases that might be a better match, as the Slackware crew is a bunch of sticklers when it comes to stability. Which is what makes the distribution so g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-29 Thread Nathan Evans
you should include slackware. On 23 October 2010 05:13, wrote: > Hi > On Sat, 23 Oct 2010, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:06:15 +0100 >> From: Alasdair Lumsden >> Reply-To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana >> >> To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana >> Subject: [OpenIn

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hello All

2010-10-28 Thread Nathan Evans
summary of my skills: Java/JSP, PHP, PERL, C++. If you need/want to put my skills to use send me a quick message and I'll see what if i am competent enough to do the work. look forward to working with you all Thanks Nathan Evans ___ OpenIndiana-di