Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)

2011-03-28 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 28 March 2011 10:30, Didier Carlier wrote: > shutdown -r is ok, it used to be there in SunOS 4 (bsd based at the time) and > -r is not used currently. > For reboot, I really does not understand why the subject is so hot... > init 6 is juste as short and reboot on Solaris has other options whi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)

2011-03-28 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 28 March 2011 09:32, John McEntee wrote: > Now, who in their right mind would suggest you have to check uname every > time before changing run levels. It kind of makes sense -- if you're on Solaris you need to use "shutdown -i 6 -g 0" to reboot, and on everything else you need to use "reboot"

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)

2011-03-28 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 28 March 2011 08:48, Jonathan Adams wrote: > feel free to create these script and store them in a folder called > "/usr/myreboots" you can then add this to your path: > > reboot: > #!/sbin/sh > init 6 > > shutdown: > #!/sbin/sh > init 5 > > thankyou. Please feel free to use this shell script

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)

2011-03-28 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 28 March 2011 08:24, Jonathan Adams wrote: > 1) "the more progressive amongst us do" I take exception to this > statement ... some of the GNU commands are broken on Solaris, and > secure accounts should have as little in it's path (if you use root or > any secure account) as possible so that y

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Legal Safety

2011-03-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 25 March 2011 13:32, Largo wrote: > Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: > >> You should have as much fear as if you are using linux. > > Someone who is using a commercial Linux distro like RedHat is > protected by the company that sells it, ie RedHat in this example. The vast majority of Linux users I'm

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Developer] Unable to boot OpenIndiana on my dell studio 1450

2011-03-20 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 20 March 2011 17:55, kunal wrote: > On 03/21/2011 03:16 AM, ken mays wrote: >> >> What version of OI are you using? >> > I have tried with OI b147 and b148 . Also , OpenSolaris version* also hang > while booting. > Though Solaris 10 u 6 boots and lands me up in the installer dialogues. I've b

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bug reports

2011-03-20 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 20 March 2011 07:13, Reginald Beardsley wrote: > I agree it's not a major issue given the massive problem posed by the > browsers & plugins.  I was trying to point out that you really can't protect > the user from their own ignorance.  If someone lacks the wits to log out > after executing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] For a basic dev environment

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 16 March 2011 16:27, Harry Putnam wrote: > When I was running opensolaris 101, up to 133 before switching to oi, > there used to be a basic set of pkgs one needed installed to have a basic > developmental environment.  I mean just enough to do basic compile > from source of gnus pkgs and the l

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 16 March 2011 15:43, David wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Kevin J. Woolley wrote: >> In oi_147 you could fix this by doing a 'su -', giving the password >> you used during the installation, and resetting the password when >> prompted (because root&#x

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 16 March 2011 15:26, David wrote: > 1) I can't even launch these applications of a fresh install, since > the GUI is prompting me for a root password, but no root password is > created during the install process.  This appears to be true for many > admin applets.  (Plus, I would have assumed i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proxy for auto-updates?

2011-03-15 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 15 March 2011 15:52, David wrote: > Hello, > > Totally new to Solaris  Thought I'd try Open Indiana live DVD inside a VM. > > Question:  How do I configure the package manger/updater to use an http proxy? The package manager may be something of a moving target -- I don't have a http proxy

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-15 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 15 March 2011 15:41, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: > Sea turtles, newly hatched on a beach, will automatically move toward > the ocean. A joey climbs into its mother's pouch upon being born. > Honeybees communicate by dance the direction of a food source without > formal instruction. And every mam

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

2011-03-15 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On 15 March 2011 14:03, Harry Putnam wrote: > Apostolos Syropoulos writes: >> The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search >> before posting. > > Is this guy serious or just one of those guys that always says > something like this. Depends. If you're just looking to argu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to document SMF facilities for an upstream package

2011-01-27 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 27 January, 2011 16:45, "Gary Mills" said: > I've just completed writing a spec file to build an IPS package for > the ISC DHCP server. I haven't made any changes to the source for > this product, and don't want to. That should all be done upstream. > The man pages describe the pro

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] crontab error

2011-01-26 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Wednesday, 26 January, 2011 13:31, "ann kok" said: > Hi > > I am trying "crontab cron1.txt" and have error as > > root@opensolaris:~/ann# crontab cron1.txt > 0 0 * * 7 /root/ann/deletelog.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 > crontab: error on previous line; number out of bounds. > crontab: errors detected i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] crontab error

2011-01-26 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Wednesday, 26 January, 2011 13:31, "ann kok" said: > Hi > > I am trying "crontab cron1.txt" and have error as > > root@opensolaris:~/ann# crontab cron1.txt > 0 0 * * 7 /root/ann/deletelog.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 > crontab: error on previous line; number out of bounds. > crontab: errors detected i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

2011-01-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Tuesday, 25 January, 2011 13:52, "Alasdair Lumsden" said: > You are right though about needing more software in our repos, and this is > something we do intend to do via the OIAC project, please see: > > http://wiki.openindiana.org/display/~guido/OI+Extra+Consolidation > > If you'd like to

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana on VirtualBox 4.0

2010-12-23 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
Hello folks, Neat bit of trivia -- in VirtualBox 4.0's new VM wizard, if you give "OpenIndiana" as part of the VM name it automatically selects "Solaris | Solaris modern (S10U8+)" as the OS type and subtype. It's nice to get a nod from Oracle. :) Cheers, kjw _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] General question about motherboards

2010-12-21 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Tuesday, 21 December, 2010 02:34, "Edward Martinez" said: > Hi, > > I suggest staying away from AMD Athlon 2 x2 series, because I have > a system using the 240 series, Openindiana, solaris 10,11 ex, > opensolaris,etc do not work due > to a bug in the CPU; the problem is th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] General question about motherboards

2010-12-21 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Tuesday, 21 December, 2010 10:00, "Harry Putnam" said: > A few words from experienced people would be helpful on motherboard > choice. > > I've been running osol on this hardware: > > cpu: AMD Athlon 64, 2200 MHz (11 x 200) 3400+ > motherboard: AOpen AK86-L (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DDR DIMM

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] man pages to solaris cmds

2010-12-18 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
Gah, ignore me -- I didn't see Calum's (much better) response. Cheers, kjw On Saturday, 18 December, 2010 18:06, "Kevin J. Woolley" said: > On Saturday, 18 December, 2010 17:04, "Harry Putnam" > said: > >> What is the MANPATH to the solari

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] man pages to solaris cmds

2010-12-18 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Saturday, 18 December, 2010 17:04, "Harry Putnam" said: > What is the MANPATH to the solaris cmds that there are also gnu > versions of. > > /bin/ls for example > > If I call man /bin/ls > > I get warnings about opening a binary file, and when the man page > opens there is lots of guff in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about devlopment tools

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 2 December, 2010 19:31, "Sriram Narayanan" said: > Both gcc-3.3 as well as gcc-4.x are available. I use these on OI > (actually illumos) for the working on the next Belenix releases. Apart > from a specific linking problem for one of the shared libraries, GCC > works fine on OI. Go

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] No timeslider... what gives

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 2 December, 2010 19:20, "Harry Putnam" said: > On a new install of b147 when the gui is up I attempt to access the > timeslider tool from the System menu. > > I'm asked for root passwd > > Ok done. > > Then the watch shows as if something is taking time start. > Th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Ekiga/OPAL with H264/H263 support

2010-11-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 25 November, 2010 20:12, "Hillel Lubman" said: > On 25/11/10 22:48, Chdslv wrote: >> "Could not operate on /var/pkg/lock >> because of insufficient permissions. Please try the command again using >> pfexec >> or otherwise increase your privileges." >> >> How do you go from here, I d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Tuesday, 16 November, 2010 23:50, "Nikola M" said: > Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: >> Ummm S11 can upgrade from Opensolaris... maybe OpenIndiana could upgrade >> > As it could be read, it seems unsecured to install SolarisExpress at all, > since it kills ALL other boot environments for starting fr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

2010-11-16 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Tuesday, 16 November, 2010 10:39, "Daniel Kjar" said: > They said nothing about snooping but they did use a much nicer > euphemism... > > " or for any commercial production purposes, you must obtain a valid > license permitting such use. We may audit your use of the Programs. " My (naive,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-05 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Friday, 5 November, 2010 20:46, "Allan E. Registos" said: > The reason is peripheral support. For packages, they have backport repos > if you want to install the latest apps w/o breaking the core. If you compile > packages from obscure sources, of course there is dependency hell. > Some ISV w

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 4 November, 2010 17:17, "Daniel Kjar" said: > can expect me to type 'bash'), and ZFS. Out of those three I would say > #1 ZFS, #2 Uptime, #3 predictability. Predictability is a big one for me. It's particularly important when you deal with multiple Unix versions all day. > So to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 4 November, 2010 16:02, "Frank Middleton" said: > Well, it could be hardware too. But for whatever reason - memory leaks, You'd be surprised at the hardware I run it on -- old and grungy are the orders of the day for a great many of my systems. My primary point is that the succe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

2010-11-04 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 4 November, 2010 14:38, "Frank Middleton" said: > at least now with ZFS - no more fsck). RHel, Fedora, Ubuntu, and > MSx are much more likely to fail - a few weeks of uptime is > enough to merit a celebration. I can't vouch for BSD but I doubt Speak for yourself -- the only tim

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Package lists

2010-10-22 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
Hello folks, I've done CentOS 5.5, save for: - most libraries (their versions are dependent on the versions of the installed apps in many cases) - language modules, etc. - variants (no-x11, etc.) - things that I recognise to be tied to Linux (and would never be built/useful on OI) I did the up

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-22 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Friday, 22 October, 2010 19:37, "Kevin J. Woolley" said: > Fedora 13 (current) and 14 (due in a couple of weeks) are good additions to > the > list. I'll get started, but would love some help. I'll start with CentOS > 5.5 and > the Fedoras. > &

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-22 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Friday, 22 October, 2010 16:06, "Alasdair Lumsden" said: > Hi All, > > I've got a fun task for someone who is looking to contribute to the project. > > It would be really useful to compare packages and versions between: > > OpenIndiana oi_147 > CentOS/RHEL 5.5 and 6 > Debian 5 > Ubuntu 10

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-22 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Friday, 22 October, 2010 16:06, "Alasdair Lumsden" said: > If people are going to make the switch from their comfort zone on Linux, we > need > to give them something equal or better. Packaging so far seems to be the most > common complaint, so we should do all we can to address that! Is th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Applications

2010-10-14 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 14 October, 2010 17:09, "Alasdair Lumsden" said: > So perhaps not too impossible, and hopefully not too icky. Just need someone > who > has the time to implement it, either by modifying/extending the SFW Perl 5.10 > build, or to replace that with a JDS style specfile. Ah, a mixed

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building Applications

2010-10-14 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Thursday, 14 October, 2010 14:19, "Alasdair Lumsden" said: > Hi Russell, > > That looks like an oversight in the OS worth addressing. > > I imagine getting a combined 32/64bit perl on the system would be very > difficult, > given perl modules install native extensions. Essentially you'd ne

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] gcc linker

2010-10-12 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Tuesday, 12 October, 2010 18:01, "Edward Martinez" said: > I did a fast search online for Sunstudio and sunstudioexpress > version 5.9 like the error is asking for,but I was not able to find it? > Now I'm starting to think Libreoffice project did not have > Opensolaris and openind

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Manpages and documentation -- whe re to start?

2010-09-29 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Wednesday, 29 September, 2010 23:18, "Tom Wickline" said: > Hello, > > Yea, were going to need a openindiana-dev mailing list in the future right? > To send patches to and discuss development. That already exists -- oi-dev. I should have posted there. Sorry 'bout that! Cheers, kjw __

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Manpages and documentation -- whe re to start?

2010-09-29 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
Hello folks, >From IRC traffic I understand (perhaps wrongly) that the most up-to-date >manual pages and documentation aren't available to us due to licensing issues. > If that's the case I'd like to start putting some effort into bringing things >up to date. I've got a few questions on how be

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to login as root

2010-09-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Saturday, 25 September, 2010 16:09, "Jeppe Toustrup" said: > Maybe it would be easier to just refer to users should use "sudo" > instead of "su", that would be the same way to get root access as ie. > Ubuntu uses, which people trying out OpenIndiana may have tried > before. My personal obser

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to login as root

2010-09-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Saturday, 25 September, 2010 15:49, "Daniel Kjar" said: > I would suggest mentioning a reason why this strangeness exists. You > may know why, and your friends may know why, but for the life of me I > can't imagine anyone else understanding this 'feature' out of the box. I haven't the fainte

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to login as root

2010-09-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Saturday, 25 September, 2010 11:17, "Jasse Jansson" said: >> That password for root was set to expire so you will then be prompted >> for a new root password. Once done you can use the root password for >> the privileged utilities such as package manager. > Yep, that's it. Works fine now. >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

2010-09-25 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Saturday, 25 September, 2010 04:56, "Edward Martinez" said: >I ping pkg.openindiana.org from OI: > > e...@openindiana:~$ ping pkg.openindiana.org > pkg.openindiana.org is alive > > > I tried downloading "sunstudio12u1" again and I'm s

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

2010-09-22 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Wednesday, 22 September, 2010 15:02, "Gary" said: > Is this a problem with the content delivery network having bad copies > of some files? gcc-43 is another one, btw. It looks like some of the mirrors may have corrupted files or indexes. I think they're still in the process of fixing the si

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

2010-09-22 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
On Wednesday, 22 September, 2010 14:53, "Gary" said: > I have the same problem with the JDK package: [...] > http protocol error: code: 206 reason: Partial Content > URL: > 'http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/file/1/d1e851885a79fec4f9578837fb1d45acbbc9ebce'. They're working on the "206 Partial Co