Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Sure would be something (unlikely :-( ) if they could be begged or wheedled into re-opening it a couple years before pulling the plug, whenever that might be, so others could take it over. Updating work others have done on ARM64 and on a z/VM guest would be interesting, to say the least. And I g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith via openindiana-discuss
On 2/5/25 09:24, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: The desktop has never (except one experimental 3D thing that I forget the name of, that didn't last) That would have been Project Looking Glass. been its strong point, but I suspect that's had a very few people working it, who also had userland dut

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith via openindiana-discuss
On 2/5/25 08:53, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) wrote: as Oracle pulls the plug on Solaris (which will happen in 2031). Oracle is currently offering Solaris support until November 2037. -alan- ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 03-02-2025 17:29, Till Wegmüller wrote: ... What are your Painpoints? mozo (main menu editor) is a constant crasher, it crashes on almost every touch, or even on just staring at it. Should definitely be overhauled. -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.of Meteorology & Climate Research IMKASF-SAT https:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 05-02-2025 17:30, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: ... and, talking of speed and meteorological modelling, cuda support would be great. Don't really know if that counts for desktop or backend, we have our linux-gpu-servers in a rack and well cooled. I would love to have those running OI underneath, would

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
so OI is focused only on desktop? No, OI is the server part PLUS desktop. We use single image OI for both our desktops and servers for various purposes. ok, thought, but was suddenly unclear because of the last posting OI supports real ACLs because it builds on stock illumos. sure, and illum

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Stephan Althaus
On 2/5/25 17:15, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: Actually T8’s are still rather powerful for machine with GA 2017;) but of course, PCIe 3.0 and DDR4 are what they are... rgds, toomas Hey! Fujitsu won't sell SPARC beyond 2029, current is SPARC64™ XII 3.2-4.25GHz https://www.fujit

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 5. Feb 2025, at 17:10, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) > wrote: > > > > On 05-02-2025 16:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: >> [..] - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) >>> >>> Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test >>> with, old SPARC systems are way

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 5. Feb 2025, at 17:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > > [..] >>> - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) >> >> Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test with, >> old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate build >> versus 4-5 or

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
[..] - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test with, old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate build versus 4-5 or more hours). In short, we should be looking into the future (get ARM6

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMKASF)
On 05-02-2025 16:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: [..] - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?) Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test with, old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate build versus 4-5 or more hours). In short, we s

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 5. Feb 2025, at 15:41, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > > Hi Till, > > srm/projects use case, you asked:) > > I run courses on shell scripting for beginners at a university. I did > this with an old sunray environment on oracle solaris, which minimizes > the workload of setting up a course ful

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 03:20:11PM +0100, Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Am 05.02.25 14:57 schrieb Marcel Telka : > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > > so, adding to the wishlist:) > > > - please put back the libraries needed for sunray on OI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
On the OI box with 30 xdmcp called x-sessions, if one user runs over the max-lwps boundary, all x-sessions of all 30 users get killed in that case. That's not right. Are you running xdm as an SMF service? it is, manifest as follows:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss
Am 05.02.25 14:57 schrieb Marcel Telka : > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > so, adding to the wishlist:) > > - please put back the libraries needed for sunray on OI > > We need somebody to sit down and put together the list of files that are > needed for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:41 PM Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > > Hi Till, > > srm/projects use case, you asked:) > > I run courses on shell scripting for beginners at a university. I did > this with an old sunray environment on oracle solaris, which minimizes > the workload of setting up a course full of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Rolf M. Dietze wrote: > so, adding to the wishlist:) > - please put back the libraries needed for sunray on OI We need somebody to sit down and put together the list of files that are needed for sunray. We only have this: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
Hi Till, srm/projects use case, you asked:) I run courses on shell scripting for beginners at a university. I did this with an old sunray environment on oracle solaris, which minimizes the workload of setting up a course full of desktop systems. For a change I setup a box with OI, netbooted som

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop Painpoints

2025-02-05 Thread Peter Tribble
On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 6:08 PM Ignacio Soriano Hernandez via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Hi Till, > > Looks like beating a dead horse but here we go: > > - GNOME 3 desktop > So I'm interested in precisely what part of GNOME 3 would be beneficial. Is it the overall user interface or any specific