Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
The cost of atime is not very dramatic when using zfs except for perhaps the snapshots issue which was already mentioned. This is because the atime updates are cached in memory and are only written to underlying store at the next zfs sync interval. So maybe atime will be updated in the filesy

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Seems like the Linux style O_NOATIME flag (usable only by root - or on Solaris derivatives, possibly with a fine-grained permission) might be a useful addition to the OS, so that system programs that read a lot of files can avoid causing massive time updates that either generate excess I/O and o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-21 Thread Peter Tribble
On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:32 AM James wrote: > On 19/08/2021 23:58, Carl Brewer wrote: > > Further to this - is it worth disabling atime on the ZFS root pool > > that's on the SSDs? I don't imagine it's a lot of data, but it would add > > up over the years. > > Do you ever look at the access tim

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-21 Thread Carl Brewer
On 21/08/2021 7:32 pm, James wrote: On 19/08/2021 23:58, Carl Brewer wrote: Further to this - is it worth disabling atime on the ZFS root pool that's on the SSDs? I don't imagine it's a lot of data, but it would add up over the years. Do you ever look at the access times? not personally, bu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?

2021-08-21 Thread James
On 19/08/2021 23:58, Carl Brewer wrote: Further to this - is it worth disabling atime on the ZFS root pool that's on the SSDs? I don't imagine it's a lot of data, but it would add up over the years. Do you ever look at the access times? SSD or otherwise it must add writes when reading. I have b