Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Jay F. Shachter
The xv program (an ancient image viewer that I use extensively, because it is the smallest and fastest of the image viewers) has code in it for displaying files in the "new" png format, but it uses the old png API, and you cannot compile the source with the new png header files. Moreover, the sou

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016, Peter Tribble wrote: I thoroughly dislike the "stable" approach of backporting patches to older versions. In my experience this ends up being expensive to maintain compared to just building current, ties you up in knots because other things require newer versions, and giv

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps...:  When backporting as RedHat/CentOS does, we don't know what is backported or not. It waste a lot of time and nobody know what is really backported inside RHEL 6.8 bind 9.8.8rc1 ... I'm not advocating that hipster take t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread cpforum
Hi all, I think the update policy must depend on software reputation, type of release major, minor, extended support release (called  for exemple ESR for Firefox or ESV for bind and DHCP), non regression tests available.   Actually curl, squid, and apache httpd have both security advisories.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps...: So I favour keeping everything as current as you can, having compatibility packages for older release of libraries at least. +1, especially for what Peter and others have said about libraries where multiple versions can

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Peter Tribble
[trimmed] On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > > We had a sort of a discussion on IRC today, which ended up in a choice > better made or at least discussed by community than by the back-alley > dealers ;) > > So, as software evolution marches on, some projects' newer releases

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Francis.D
Hi all For my part, I prefer to have a stable version of software. If it's necessary to wait 3 months more why not. OI may be certainly on rolling release model and opting only on stable version software. As the Oi developer team is small, it would be wise to adopt stability in order to avoid co

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Till Wegmüller
Hello Everyone Am 22.12.2016 um 10:44 schrieb Alexander Pyhalov: I'd like to separate libraries and applications. In general case we want to provide only latest version of application if we can. There are several classes of exceptions, however. These are databases (when storage format changes b

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How many versions of libs/apps should OI provide?

2016-12-22 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Hi, Jim. On 12/22/16 03:22 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: We had a sort of a discussion on IRC today, which ended up in a choice better made or at least discussed by community than by the back-alley dealers ;) So, as software evolution marches on, some projects' newer releases bring new features, b