Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Jason Matthews
Sent from Jasons' hand held On Nov 17, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > > My box did have uncorrected raidz2 errors and couldn't even point > to a failed drive - it's as if they all scratched the same region > at once... > which may have been caused by power jerks or something, > with a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Ian Collins
On 11/17/12 17:36, Paul B. Henson wrote: For the motherboard, I'm looking at the Supermicro X9DRD-7LN4F-JBOD, which is a dual LGA 2011 socket board with 16 DIMM slots, 2 x SATA3, 4 x SATA2, and 8 x SAS (LSI 2308 controller onboard) along with 4 intel i350 based gig nics. My understanding is that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 03:13:03PM -0600, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > If the drive stalls indefinitely trying to recover a bad sector, then > there is a big problem. Yep. That's why I definitely don't want to go with consumer grade desktop drives. I think the WD Red is about the only "inexpensive"

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:27:13PM +0100, Jim Klimov wrote: > On a side note, expect the USB3 ports on modern hardware to not work > with illumos-based OSes, until someone comes up with any sort of USB3 The server I'm spec'ing doesn't have any USB3 ports, but thanks for the heads up... _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:17:30AM -0600, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > I have a OpenIndiana system with 16-cores of Xeon E5 and Intel i350 > Ethernet and these seem to work great with recent OpenIndiana/Illumos. > I was a bit nervous about i350 Ethernet since the driver was not added > until 151a3

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:56:48PM +1100, Denis Cheong wrote: > That's a lot of issues and questions to raise in the one post! Sorry :), it was either that or post a dozen different threads ;). > Let me start off by saying that your intentions are very similar to mine. > My OmniOS box is the stor

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 01:06:46PM +0100, Robin Axelsson wrote: > What you are going for seems like quite an ambitious undertaking! Yeah, it's probably way overkill for my needs, but I'll have a lot of fun setting it up and having it, and it should last for a long time. > Regarding near-line SA

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox security

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Driggs
On Nov 17, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Even with x86 binary code, it is possible that the code may be able to > resolve and invoke a standard C library call (e.g. system()) in a way which > works on both Solaris and Linux. The JavaScript I've seen most of lately is designed to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox security

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Driggs
On Nov 17, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Even with x86 binary code, it is possible that the code may be able to > resolve and invoke a standard C library call (e.g. system()) in a way which > works on both Solaris and Linux. I've not seen any code that bothers. Most JavaScript la

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Linux software-raid with two Comstar iSCSI volumes

2012-11-17 Thread Richard Elling
On Nov 16, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > On 2012-11-17 00:46, Roel_D wrote: >> How about teaming? Is it supported under OI? > > > My memory serves me not worse than google: teaming is one of the > umbrella terms to describe what is implemented by LACP - a means > of representing several

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Jim Klimov wrote: Before claiming "ridiculous pricing", it is useful to examine the specification sheet. There may be a 10X difference in the uncorrected media error rate, or error rate may not be specified at all. Valid point... but how much does it matter if we throw Z

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox security

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Gary Driggs wrote: I see this question asked regularly... Generally speaking, the vast majority of browser exploits in the wild target windows browsers or their plugins like Java, Adobe Reader & Flash, or ActiveX. So even if you're using one of those plugins with a Unix brow

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2012-11-17 18:41, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Hard drive prices from big-name system vendors are often "ridiculous" I think we were talking about the open market, shelf prices. Really, I cannot point at a shop today to prove the statement, but I was skimming the prices this summer and saw several

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox security

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Driggs
I see this question asked regularly... Generally speaking, the vast majority of browser exploits in the wild target windows browsers or their plugins like Java, Adobe Reader & Flash, or ActiveX. So even if you're using one of those plugins with a Unix browser (of those available), you're already pr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Jim Klimov wrote: On 2012-11-17 17:17, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Prices I have seen this year for Enterprise SAS and SATA drives did not show a large bump in price for SAS as compared with SATA (maybe only $20-30). Other than the SAS controller, there is not much extra cost f

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2012-11-17 17:17, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Prices I have seen this year for Enterprise SAS and SATA drives did not show a large bump in price for SAS as compared with SATA (maybe only $20-30). Other than the SAS controller, there is not much extra cost for SAS as compared with SATA I think, s

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Firefox security

2012-11-17 Thread Weiergräber, Oliver H.
Hello, am I right thinking that the firefox version supplied with OI is the same as in Solaris 11, and updated more or less regularly together with the remaining userland? Does this mean it is safe to use? I generally don't care about new features in later firefox versions, as long as security

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
I have a OpenIndiana system with 16-cores of Xeon E5 and Intel i350 Ethernet and these seem to work great with recent OpenIndiana/Illumos. I was a bit nervous about i350 Ethernet since the driver was not added until 151a3 but it has worked perfectly. Prices I have seen this year for Enterprise

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server

2012-11-17 Thread Robin Axelsson
On 2012-11-17 05:36, Paul B. Henson wrote: I think I'm finally going to get around to putting together the illumos home/hobby server I've been thinking about for the past few years :), and would appreciate a little feedback on parts/compatibility/design. The box is intended to be both a stora