Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

I'm not a mathematician, but can anyone calculate the chance of the Same 8K datablock on Both submirrors "Going bad" on terabyte drives, before the data is ever read and fixed automatically during normal read operations? And if you are not doing mirroring, you have already accepted a much larger ma

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS, Samba, Windows ACLs

The chmod that works on ZFS ACLs was in /usr/bin/ for me, while the default chmod was in /usr/gnu/bin I used this to get AD integration setup; however that doesn't fully integrate the OI box with AD, only CIFS authe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

So">?}?\, a lot of people have already answered this in various ways. I'm going to provide a little bit of direct answer and focus to some of those other answers (and emphasis) On 10/12/2012 5:07 PM, Michael Stapleton wrote: It is easy to understand that zfs srubs can be useful, But, How often

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability

On 10/12/12 16:45, Robbie Crash wrote: > Also, the reason there's so much talk about broken ZFS is because nobody > complains when their pools aren't broken. > >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Roel_D wrote: >>> How come i see so much ZFS trouble? I suspect there's more to it than that. ZFS,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

But that the deal with mailing list everywhere. Be they OI or what ever else. Be it some problem someone is having, or some way to enhance a product, or to get it to do something it was never intended to do. Support mailing list and forums wouldn't exist if people didn't have problems that the d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI stopped booting after 151a6 update.

Same here. I updated one of my systems to 151a7 today, and everything went great. now just a couple more to do. Jerry On 10/12/12 04:15 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > Thanks everyone involved in the investigation/fixing. > 151a7 works fine. I am a happy user again :) > >> I can reproduce it on

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS, Samba, Windows ACLs

Hi Levon, This is probably the best place to ask OI-related questions :-). I can only answer your 2nd. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > And, > -chmod A- /tank1/Data > --Try `chmod --help' for more information. > > So the chmod accepts options in a different manner. I read the help page

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Michael Stapleton wrote: > It is easy to understand that zfs srubs can be useful, But, How often do > we scrub or the equivalent of any other file system? UFS? VXFS? > NTFS? ... If your data has checksums, it is "standard practice" to periodically verify your chec

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

The problem is when people are overly paranoid because the feature exists and end up causing problems by doing scrubs when they should not because they feel they need to. Skilled admins also understand SLAs. Mike On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:38 -0700, Reginald Beardsley wrote: > > --- On Fri, 10/

[OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS, Samba, Windows ACLs

Hello all,  Im new here, so please bear with me. I have used this site in the past (http://www.nineproductions.com/solaris-11-samba-zfs-configuration/) to configure a solaris server for Samba and windows ACLs and it worked pretty well. I am trying the same on OpenIndiana and cannot seem to get

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

--- On Fri, 10/12/12, Michael Stapleton wrote: > > I'm only writing this because I get the feeling some people > think scrubs > are a need. Maybe people associate doing scrubs with > something like > doing NTFS defrags? > I normally do scrubs when I think about it. Which has been a long ti

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

I haven't tried 3ware cards on OpenIndiana, but I plan on trying them out, I have a 3ware 9550SX PCI-X SATA RAID controller, and on Linux, I *love* them. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > LSI bought 3ware. > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Roel_D wrote: >>> no way,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

"Maybe people associate doing scrubs with something like doing NTFS defrags?" Well if read all the posts and because i installed napp-it on my homeserver which has a scrub scheduler i was almost at the point of assuming such. I recently bought a secondhand x4140 just because it performs so well

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

LSI bought 3ware. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Roel_D wrote: >> no way, LSI or Adaptec are "the RAID Controllers" > > LSI bought an other company a couple of years ago. Can't remember the name, > but those cards will not work even with a LSI sticker on it. Those cards come > cheap second ha

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability

+1. What the previous poster is missing is this: it's entirely possible for sectors on a disk to go bad and if you haven't read them in awhile, you might not notice. Then, say, the other disk (in a mirror for example) dies entirely. You are dismayed to realize your redundant disk configuration h

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI stopped booting after 151a6 update.

Thanks everyone involved in the investigation/fixing. 151a7 works fine. I am a happy user again :) I can reproduce it on my system now in 32-bit mode only. I am trying to find for investigation asap. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability "Scrubs"

It is easy to understand that zfs srubs can be useful, But, How often do we scrub or the equivalent of any other file system? UFS? VXFS? NTFS? ... ZFS has scrubs as a feature, but is it a need? I do not think so. Other file systems accept the risk, mostly because they can not really do anything if

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability

Also, the reason there's so much talk about broken ZFS is because nobody complains when their pools aren't broken. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Doug Hughes wrote: > yes, you shoud do a scrub and no, there isn't very much risk to this. This > will scan your disks for bits that have gone stal

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability

yes, you shoud do a scrub and no, there isn't very much risk to this. This will scan your disks for bits that have gone stale or the like. You should do it. We do a scrub once per week. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Roel_D wrote: > Being on the list and reading all ZFS problem and question

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

On 10/12/12 09:59 PM, Robbie Crash wrote: I had lots of checksum errors on big writes when I was using WD Greens without TLER. Just to prevent that everyone now goes for TLER Caviar Greens: "I is important to realize TLER-capable hard drives should NOT be used in non-RAID environments." RAID h

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability

On 10/12/12 09:55 PM, Roel_D wrote: Being on the list and reading all ZFS problem and question posts makes me a little scared. I have 4 Sun X4140 servers running in the field for 4 years now and they all have ZFS mirrors (2x HD). > > They are running Solaris 10 and 1 is running solaris 11. I a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

I had lots of checksum errors on big writes when I was using WD Greens without TLER. Also, when I was using ZFS on Linux and a PCI (not PCIe) controller card for some old PATA 1TB drives, any time the PCI bandwidth was reached checksum errors out the wazoo. But only on big copies, or scrubs. On Fr

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Zfs stability

Being on the list and reading all ZFS problem and question posts makes me a little scared. I have 4 Sun X4140 servers running in the field for 4 years now and they all have ZFS mirrors (2x HD). They are running Solaris 10 and 1 is running solaris 11. I also have some other servers running OI, a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

> no way, LSI or Adaptec are "the RAID Controllers" LSI bought an other company a couple of years ago. Can't remember the name, but those cards will not work even with a LSI sticker on it. Those cards come cheap second hand, but i had to move to opensuse for this particular server to get it run

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

On 10/12/12 08:09 PM, Bentley, Dain wrote: I see the checksum errors with zpool status -v but the drives are good as far as I know. > pool: volume0 state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an unrecoverable error. An attempt was made to correct the error.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

Ricardo, I apologize - I have a RocketRAID but it in fact is not the same model as you have. So my reply may not apply. Sorry I tried to rely on memory without verifying. Best regards, Mark On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Pepe Komatsu wrote: > Hi everybody. > > Someone have experience with High

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

thank a lot... no way, LSI or Adaptec are "the RAID Controllers" 2012/10/12 Mark Creamer > I have one of those. I've never been able to get OI to work with it. Just > doesn't recognize the drives. Maybe things have changed in recent releases > though. I haven't tried for a while on that box. No

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

According to this site, the chipset (Marvell 88SE9485) is supported. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Pepe Komatsu wrote: > Hi everybody. > > Someone have experience with HighPoint RocketRAID 2710 4-Port PCI-Express > 2.0 x8 SAS/SATA RAID Controller > > Thanks > --

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

I have one of those. I've never been able to get OI to work with it. Just doesn't recognize the drives. Maybe things have changed in recent releases though. I haven't tried for a while on that box. Now I don't use anything but LSI when I'm building for OI (or SmartOS). No problems then. On Fri, Oc

[OpenIndiana-discuss] RAID Controler.

Hi everybody. Someone have experience with HighPoint RocketRAID 2710 4-Port PCI-Express 2.0 x8 SAS/SATA RAID Controller Thanks -- Ricardo Komatsu Consultor de TI ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindian

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

I see the checksum errors with zpool status -v but the drives are good as far as I know. Fmadm faulty reports nothing: root@Atlas:/home/user# zpool status pool: rpool state: ONLINE status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can still be used, but some featu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

On 10/12/12 07:34 PM, Bentley, Dain wrote: Hello Udo, thanks for the reply. Here is the text from fmdump -eV. > Is there anything I should be looking for? So BOTH disks spit out ZFS checksum errors like a machine gun, this can either be a controller/cable problem or a memory problem (you don't

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:55:28 +0400 Jim Klimov wrote: > 2012-10-12 9:43, Michelle Knight пишет: > > A live installation of Ubuntu has been up for 8 hours so I'll leave > > it a while longer to see if it remains stable. If it does then that > > will lessen the likelihood that it is the processor. >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Memory usage concern

Hmz, i'm running multiple windows 2003 servers within virtualbox running on Solaris 10 hosts. Some windows servers are online for almost a year now. The VHD's are stored on a Zfs mirror and i never had any out-of-memory errors. The solaris servers also serve glassfish, mysqlcluster and many, m

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Memory usage concern

On 12/10/2012 16:10, Heinrich van Riel wrote: My concern is as follow, when I 1st start the system and VMs there is 8GB of free memory. This number keeps decreasing by about 300MB every 10 hours. OI - 10GB max allocated to ZFS ARC (only setting change from default install) At the current r

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

On 12/10/2012 17:34, Bentley, Dain wrote: Hello all. I'm pretty new to OpenIndiana and Solaris based systems in general. I've recently dumped FreeBSD ZFS for OpenIndiana and set up a server with a ZFS mirror presenting iSCSI luns to an esxi host. Nothing against FreeBSD but I wanted to try Op

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Memory usage concern

On 10/12/2012 04:10 PM, Heinrich van Riel wrote: Hello everyone, Hi The common wisdom in Unices world is that RAM unused is RAM wasted. So not much free RAM is not of very big concern. Part of this kernel memory space you see consists of ZFS Adaptive Replacement Cache (ARC). You can observe

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana ZFS server crashes and reboots

Hello all. I'm pretty new to OpenIndiana and Solaris based systems in general. I've recently dumped FreeBSD ZFS for OpenIndiana and set up a server with a ZFS mirror presenting iSCSI luns to an esxi host. Nothing against FreeBSD but I wanted to try OpenIndiana. Connectivity is fine and it seem

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell Precision T3600 with Openindiana 151a7 ?

Do not trust the HCI at once. Perc controllers almost always are the mini versions, as i painly discovered after ordering 2 with an upgrade to perc h710's . Those are also mini-versions. Kind regards, The out-side Op 12 okt. 2012 om 16:29 heeft Sašo Kiselkov het volgende geschreven: > On 1

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell Precision T3600 with Openindiana 151a7 ?

On 10/12/2012 04:26 PM, Neddy, NH. Nam wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sorry for OT, but how could I know which controller chip model is > on controller card? eg. on HP, IBM, etc ... ? Look at the manufacturer's datasheets, the chip is typically listed. Here's also a pre-compiled list of SAS2008-based cards

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell Precision T3600 with Openindiana 151a7 ?

On 10/12/2012 04:18 PM, Rich wrote: > All 4 are listed in there as being SAS2008-based, which makes sense > [AFAIK, Dell has no cards based on the LSI 22xx/23xx lines of chips > yet]. Yeah, but it all often comes down to PCI IDs and firmwares. The LSI SAS 2008 can run various firmware versions, wh

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell Precision T3600 with Openindiana 151a7 ?

Hi, I'm sorry for OT, but how could I know which controller chip model is on controller card? eg. on HP, IBM, etc ... ? Thanks, ~Neddy, On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Rich wrote: > All 4 are listed in there as being SAS2008-based, which makes sense > [AFAIK, Dell has no cards based on the LSI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell Precision T3600 with Openindiana 151a7 ?

All 4 are listed in there as being SAS2008-based, which makes sense [AFAIK, Dell has no cards based on the LSI 22xx/23xx lines of chips yet]. - Rich On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 10/11/2012 11:23 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: >> On 11/10/2012 10:35, Sašo Kiselkov wr

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Memory usage concern

Hello everyone, I have a question around memory utilization. Recently we had a system that started to lock up daily and we had to swap it out with a lab system running 151a5 and Virtualbox. lab system: 2x AMD 6 core, 32GB Mem. (no KVM support for AMD) The lab system use to run an Exchange 2010 la

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

I reread your errorlog and somewhere at the end there is a mouse warning. There have been more posts about IRQ-like conflicts between nics and mouses in recent OI versions. Kind regards, The out-side Op 11 okt. 2012 om 22:09 heeft Michelle Knight het volgende geschreven: > Not sure whe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Automatic reboots

2012-10-12 9:43, Michelle Knight пишет: A live installation of Ubuntu has been up for 8 hours so I'll leave it a while longer to see if it remains stable. If it does then that will lessen the likelihood that it is the processor. You can also hammer the system with memtest (see in syslinux based