On Tuesday, 16 November, 2010 23:50, "Nikola M" said:
> Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>> Ummm S11 can upgrade from Opensolaris... maybe OpenIndiana could upgrade
>>
> As it could be read, it seems unsecured to install SolarisExpress at all,
> since it kills ALL other boot environments for starting fr
Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
> Ummm S11 can upgrade from Opensolaris... maybe OpenIndiana could upgrade
>
As it could be read, it seems unsecured to install SolarisExpress at all,
since it kills ALL other boot environments for starting from GRUB.
It cleans all Be's and have only itself in GRUB and
Indeed, OI does avoid those licensing concerns. I had some issues with OI
147 and files ending up in the wrong place on my ext3 shared data
partition, and some other issues (like no postgres) so now I'm waiting for
the 'stable' OI release before I dive back in.
Cia
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:32:51
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Frank Middleton wrote:
> Say you try to update from Solaris 11 Express (snv 151a) to OI (snv147)?
> Could there be a problem with IPS with out of temporal order packages,
> or packages which have been forked? Presumably OI can keep track of
> the forke
On 11/16/10 18:18, Tom Kranz wrote:
Why? What's wrong with ZFS snapshots and rolling back to a different BE?
As long as you're not upgrading your ZFS pools or messing around with
them (and ZFS encryption is the only pressing thing for me that would
force that) then I don't see why any of this wo
Tom, I was meaning to keep Openindiana boot environment instead of
installing Solaris 11 fresh... but if there is a method to do it without
having alrready a preexisting OI or Opensolaris boot environment, I have to
admit that am not very familiar with the process.
Well encryption is not supporte
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Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
> flexibility. Could it be a good practice to install Openindiana before
> Solaris11?, so there is a roll back option? difficult to answer... I guess
> they will keep the possibility to upgrade from Opensolaris for a while...
On 17/11/2010 9:30 AM, Alex Viskovatoff wrote:
Ha! It's funny that you would do that the day after Oracle Solaris
Express 11 was released.
heh, yes, the irony isn't lost on me :)
That's what finally encouraged me to do it (or, rather, reminded me ...)
Ha! It's funny that you would do that the day after Oracle Solaris
Express 11 was released.
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 09:23 +1100, Carl Brewer wrote:
> Thanks to all of you who did the work, I took the plunge and bumped my
> LAN server from snv134 to oi147 yesterday and had zero problems using
> p
Thanks to all of you who did the work, I took the plunge and bumped my
LAN server from snv134 to oi147 yesterday and had zero problems using
pkg image-update as per the instructions on the OI wiki. The hardware
is a generic yumcha PC motherboard with an intel c2d and a couple of 2TB
HDD's
How can one add some additional popup notifcation themes fror Gnome desktop
on OpenIndiana? The default one looks somewhat not fitting with the Nimbus
Gnome theme. There is an option to choose a theme in *Preferences > Pop-Up
notifications* but I couldn't figure out how to add and where to get any
Frank,
Good question. It al depends in Oracle and what kind of follow up OI makes,
if Oracle release their sources from time to time it would be easier to roll
from one system to the other, but if nothing happens probably we end up with
very close systems in terms of functionality but without such
On 11/16/10 13:15, Alex Viskovatoff wrote:
What we need to concentrate on is finding new contributors to the
OpenIndiana project.
One wonders how large the pool of SPARC users is and, once Illumos
compiles for SPARC, how many of them might be willing and/or able
to contribute to OI (as opposed
Thanks Kyle, thats interesting...
I wonder if you can do that anywhere in Scandinavia..
It feels like charging the TV fee, they can knock your door and ask if you
have tv... but if you know your rights...
Anyway, the question came just for curiosity. I do not need Solaris 11 as
long as OpenIndia
I was replying to Daniel's comment on the 'we will watch to make sure you
don't violate this'. There are EULAs and EULAs, the violation of some of
them are easy to point out, others basically impossible. I dont say anyone
will spy on you, I am just telling no one will do, because of the law, so
any
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On 11/16/2010 1:39 PM, Daniel Kjar wrote:
> They said nothing about snooping but they did use a much nicer
> euphemism...
>
> " or for any commercial production purposes, you must obtain a
> valid license permitting such use. We may audit your use
On Tuesday, 16 November, 2010 10:39, "Daniel Kjar" said:
> They said nothing about snooping but they did use a much nicer
> euphemism...
>
> " or for any commercial production purposes, you must obtain a valid
> license permitting such use. We may audit your use of the Programs. "
My (naive,
They said nothing about snooping but they did use a much nicer
euphemism...
" or for any commercial production purposes, you must obtain a valid
license permitting such use. We may audit your use of the Programs. "
On 11/16/10 01:25 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
J
Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
> Just for curiosity, how does Oracle check what kind of use you make of an
> operating system? In order to evaluate third party communications or private
> information this information should be already public (what means, the
> information should not be private at all).
I think it's become clear by now that Oracle Solaris is just an
irrelevant exoticism to mainstream users as opposed to multibillion
dollar enterprises.
I updated to Solaris Express 11 because I wanted to check it out and
have an alternate boot environment for emergency purposes, but I am now
back
Absolutely hilarious. Thanks Gabriel, very entertaining.
On 11/16/10 12:55 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
Well they corrected the 30 days trial "smart move" with a not so different
approach.
I could make a long list of possible users others than businesses and
coders, but Oracle should work it
Well they corrected the 30 days trial "smart move" with a not so different
approach.
I could make a long list of possible users others than businesses and
coders, but Oracle should work it out on their own.
I don't think their restrictions makes a real benefit for them, at all. With
their hight pr
Cia Watson wrote:
> When I looked at the details for licensing, it suggests one contact their
> sales person and then if you don't have a sales person you can fill in a
> form and someone will contact you. It may be they have tiered pricing or
>
That licensing of Oracle is very much of a mystery
I was also told 8% of the cost of the machine, but the link that the sales
rep sent me to said it was $1000/socket per machine (for non-Sun/Oracle
hardware).
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Daniel Kjar wrote:
> I contacted my reps and they came back with no tiered pricing, 8 percent
> of the
I contacted my reps and they came back with no tiered pricing, 8
percent of the average cost of the machine that it is running on at the
time of purchase. Others have told me that they did get 'special'
pricing from Oracle but I put my request in 2 months ago and have heard
nothing back yet.
OpenIndiana avoids these licensing concerns, doesn't it?
Hillel.
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Cia Watson wrote:
> since I'm just a desktop user for the most part with a blog and website
> I've been neglecting, so I went back to linux for now.
>
> Cia W
>
>
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:53:19 -0500
Daniel Kjar wrote:
> IANAL but it looks just like the new EULA for solaris 10. Testing and
> demonstration, nothing else. Period. If it is a production environment
> you need to buy a license. They also had a nice bit in there about 'we
> will watch to m
Ummm S11 can upgrade from Opensolaris... maybe OpenIndiana could upgrade
from Solaris 11.. so the vendor lockup gets killed... This would be good and
bad for Oracle, bad because people can free themselves from the heavy load
of pricing whenever they want without the need of starting from the scratc
> I have tried to use it..
>
> Solaris 11 Express has no X-Window and Gnome!
I have used it with VirtualBox and I cannot reproduce
your findings.
A.S.
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Xanthi, Greece
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> The other variable here is the controller settings.
> The LSI card can use persistent mappings forthe disks, so it's OS
> presented device is constant, regardless of what slot it is physically
> in.
>
> This drove me nuts trying to figure out what was going on the fi
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