Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity perception/parsing

2018-11-26 Thread Stefano Forli
Hi Noel, it took me a while to find the time to compile the latest code from Git, but it seems it all works great. Thanks for the great news! S On 11/16/18 12:21 AM, Noel O'Boyle wrote: > Have you tried the development version? This has been rewritten. > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 00:19 Stefano Fo

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity perception/parsing

2018-11-16 Thread Noel O'Boyle
Have you tried the development version? This has been rewritten. On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 00:19 Stefano Forli Hi, > > I've found a series of molecules that trigger what looks like a bug but I > want to make sure there isn't something clearly wrong with the structures, > before reporting it. > > The m

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity

2017-12-06 Thread Noel O'Boyle
MOL files that represent molecules store kekule bond representations, not aromatic bonds, so there is nothing to check. First of all, if you are worried about aromaticity problems, you should use the development version of Open Babel. I wouldn't worry about the "-aa" option - it's only in the dev

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity

2017-12-04 Thread Sundar
I usually convert SMILES to SDF. In my current project, I didn't call the flag -aa. Would that have affected the aromaticity of the compounds or the default attempt would have worked? I didn't see any warnings about failing attempts to fix the aromaticity. What's the general rule of thumb here? Do

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity

2017-12-04 Thread Craig James
Here's a detail about Daylight's aromaticity detection that you might not be able to deduce by looking at results. (This is not a trade secret; Dave described this in public at several MUG meetings.) 1. Read the SMILES, SDF, or other format into an object. 2. Deduce the orbital configuration of EV

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity

2017-12-04 Thread Noel O'Boyle
HI Jubilant, The development version has rewritten handling of aromaticity, and as this will be the next release, I will focus on this. The following talk gives an overview of the process: https://baoilleach.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/my-acs-talk-on-kekulization-and.html Your question didn't mention

Re: [Open Babel] aromaticity detection

2012-02-22 Thread Miguel Quirós Olozábal
El mié, 22-02-2012 a las 11:16 -0500, Geoffrey Hutchison escribió: > > Im asking because I am using CDK and OpenBabel, and I am suffering of > > interoperability problems, because both tools have different ways of > > defining aromaticity. > > There is no unified aromaticity model in chemistry. I'

Re: [Open Babel] aromaticity detection

2012-02-22 Thread Eric Jang
This is somewhat unrelated but I found that CDK has a well-documented aromaticity algorithm. You could try looking at that before examining Open Babel's implementation. They might be similar. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Geoffrey Hutchison < ge...@geoffhutchison.net> wrote: > > Im asking be

Re: [Open Babel] aromaticity detection

2012-02-22 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
> Im asking because I am using CDK and OpenBabel, and I am suffering of > interoperability problems, because both tools have different ways of > defining aromaticity. There is no unified aromaticity model in chemistry. I'm not sure the aromaticity algorithm in Open Babel is publishable, and even

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity of indoles

2010-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Craig A. James wrote: > It appears that OpenBabel retains the original single/double bond assignment > and uses that to determine aromaticity of the remaining part of the molecule > after atoms are deleted. But depending on the original Kekule assignment of > bonds

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity of indoles

2010-11-22 Thread Craig A. James
On 11/22/10 2:51 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: >> Is there a way in OpenBabel 2.3 to standardise the bonds in molecules in >> such way that the bond orders are no longer dependent on the way the >> molecule was entered? For example, the two smiles representations of the >> indole ring, N1C=CC2=C

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity of indoles

2010-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
> Is there a way in OpenBabel 2.3 to standardise the bonds in molecules in such > way that the bond orders are no longer dependent on the way the molecule was > entered? For example, the two smiles representations of the indole ring, > N1C=CC2=C1C=CC=C2 and N1C=CC2=CC=CC=C12, lead to differences

Re: [Open Babel] Aromaticity of indoles

2010-11-16 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
> Is there a way in OpenBabel 2.3 to standardise the bonds in molecules in such > way that the bond orders are no longer dependent on the way the molecule was > entered? For example, the two smiles representations of the indole ring, > N1C=CC2=C1C=CC=C2 and N1C=CC2=CC=CC=C12, First off, I need